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Post by Beck on Sept 26, 2005 15:35:37 GMT -5
amen big bro. Many times when people say "all I need is Jesus" and "I don't need a man, God is my husband" so on and so forth....I really wonder what is really going on inside of them. Because most want companionship - not saying that they are not content in the state they are in - and to make such a statement when God actually feels otherwise makes me go hmmmmmm. This is what I was going to say but just not in that way. Well say it the way you were going to say it... ;D |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 26, 2005 16:07:17 GMT -5
okay..sometimes I think they are just being "deep".
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Post by endure4him on Sept 26, 2005 16:13:36 GMT -5
C'mon Sis...go head on and enlighten us, cause Beck ain't gone leave it alone!
I can concur...I was one that said God was my husband until I was given my earthly husband but, I don't ever think I thought of it in a physical sense, I always looked at it as him being my provider of my "needs" okay saints I said "NEEDS" not wants or desires although some were granted but it was my needs that I prayed mostly to God for...food, clothing (within reason), safe shelter, health, stable mind. Well, now that is kind of physical in a sense...ya'll get the jist of what I'm trying to say, right?
The ? hmmmmm...
I guess if I would have to say that God knew that Adam would need someone to look to for help in areas that he knew Adam would be weaker in-although the bible references women as the weaker vessels; there have been many times as a woman that I have been the strength for my husband by way of encouragement, through prayer, and through motherly love that sometimes men are unable to give.
God has made us as the weaker vessel true enough, but he has also made us as a vessel that is able to sustain some pretty tough blows...we are nurturers by instinct and men are not so that in itself comes to mind when I think about the ? at hand
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 26, 2005 16:16:10 GMT -5
C'mon Sis...go head on and enlighten us, cause Beck ain't gone leave it alone! I can concur...I was one that said God was my husband until I was given my earthly husband but, I don't ever think I thought of it in a physical sense, I always looked at it as him being my provider of my "needs" okay saints I said "NEEDS" not wants or desires although some were granted but it was my needs that I prayed mostly to God for...food, clothing (within reason), safe shelter, health, stable mind. Well, now that is kind of physical in a sense...ya'll get the jist of what I'm trying to say, right? The ? hmmmmm... I guess if I would have to say that God knew that Adam would need someone to look to for help in areas that he knew Adam would be weaker in-although the bible references women as the weaker vessels; there have been many times as a woman that I have been the strength for my husband by way of encouragement, through prayer, and through motherly love that sometimes men are unable to give. God has made us as the weaker vessel true enough, but he has also made us as a vessel that is able to sustain some pretty tough blows...we are nurturers by instinct and men are not so that in itself comes to mind when I think about the ? at hand Well in this case, I wouldn't say that you were being deep because from what you have written here, I would say that you were focused and balanced when you said that God was your husband in terms of being your provider. |
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Post by endure4him on Sept 26, 2005 16:36:31 GMT -5
Yeah Sis...you could say that, I was pretty tired of playing around with God and I really needed him to do something for Sis. Endure...yep, I was searching -searching myself lol! When I look back on it, I am grateful  so thankful that I allowed him to get me to that point "focused and balanced" on/in Him! |
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Post by endure4him on Sept 26, 2005 16:40:54 GMT -5
God said, "It is not good that man should be alone...make him a helpmeet
I'm inclined to believe this one word is our answer but, why would God say that Adam needed a helpmeet or better yet...what constitutes a helpmeet?
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Post by MisskaylanderNSI on Sept 27, 2005 8:04:42 GMT -5
Here lies the answer... I'm still not participating on the board but wanted to provide this insight... especially since SOMEONE thinks I am a troublemaker....
(Heb. 'ezer ke-negdo; i.e., "a help as his counterpart" = a help suitable to him),..
Power over the creatures was given to man, and as a proof of this he named them all. It also shows his insight into the works of God. But though he was lord of the creatures, yet nothing in this world was a help meet for man. Though there was an upper world of angels and a lower world of brutes, and he between them, yet there being none of the same nature and rank of beings with himself, none that he could converse familiarly with, he might be truly said to be alone. Now he that made him knew both him and what was good for him, better than he did himself, and he said, "It is not good that he should continue thus alone.’’ (1.) It is not for his comfort; for man is a sociable creature. It is a pleasure to him to exchange knowledge and affection with those of his own kind, to inform and to be informed, to love and to be beloved. What God here says of the first man Solomon says of all men (Eccl. 4:9, etc.), that two are better than one, and woe to him that is alone.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 27, 2005 8:13:35 GMT -5
I love you MissKay
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Post by Beck on Sept 27, 2005 8:35:53 GMT -5
Here lies the answer... I'm still not participating on the board but wanted to provide this insight... especially since SOMEONE thinks I am a troublemaker....(Heb. 'ezer ke-negdo; i.e., "a help as his counterpart" = a help suitable to him),..
Power over the creatures was given to man, and as a proof of this he named them all. It also shows his insight into the works of God. But though he was lord of the creatures, yet nothing in this world was a help meet for man. Though there was an upper world of angels and a lower world of brutes, and he between them, yet there being none of the same nature and rank of beings with himself, none that he could converse familiarly with, he might be truly said to be alone. Now he that made him knew both him and what was good for him, better than he did himself, and he said, "It is not good that he should continue thus alone.’’ (1.) It is not for his comfort; for man is a sociable creature. It is a pleasure to him to exchange knowledge and affection with those of his own kind, to inform and to be informed, to love and to be beloved. What God here says of the first man Solomon says of all men (Eccl. 4:9, etc.), that two are better than one, and woe to him that is alone. Excellent post misskay!! I will make sure that ASWSOY doesnt call you a trouble maker again!  |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 27, 2005 8:39:12 GMT -5
lol
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Post by endure4him on Sept 27, 2005 10:25:02 GMT -5
Thanks MissK...beautiful insight  |
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Post by Melani23nsi on Sept 27, 2005 12:11:22 GMT -5
What I've found/heard is that those who say: "All I need is Jesus" etc are usually lying. Either to you or to themselves....LOL! ;D   ;D This statement usually stems from PRIDE (not unity w/ Jesus) and its always from "religious" folk who want others to see them as being "spiritual", etc. Only WOMEN seem to say things like this. I've yet to hear a man state this.... Many women have been abused/divorced, etc often say this due to PAST experince in RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN. Everyone NEEDS to be loved. It's in OUR NATURE. The few people who are "sufficint in Jesus" are those like Elijah, Enoch, etc whom the LORD took up to be with Him. So, if your walk is not like theirs -> YOU ARE A LIAR!   |
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Post by Beck on Sept 27, 2005 12:33:09 GMT -5
What I've found/heard is that those who say: "All I need is Jesus" etc are usually lying. Either to you or to themselves....LOL! ;D ;D This statement usually stems from PRIDE (not unity w/ Jesus) and its always from "religious" folk who want others to see them as being "spiritual", etc. Only WOMEN seem to say things like this. I've yet to hear a man state this.... Many women have been abused/divorced, etc often say this due to PAST experince in RELATIONSHIPS WITH MEN. Everyone NEEDS to be loved. It's in OUR NATURE. The few people who are "sufficint in Jesus" are those like Elijah, Enoch, etc whom the LORD took up to be with Him. So, if your walk is not like theirs -> YOU ARE A LIAR! Why does your walk have to be like theirs? why cant my walk qualify me as "sufficient in Jesus"? didnt Enoch have children? |
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Post by endure4him on Sept 27, 2005 13:02:59 GMT -5
No name calling..be nice Mel You done come up in the married forum and we try to be as polite as possible here and trust me we want kick you out but, it's just nice to be nice |
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Post by Nikkol on Sept 27, 2005 13:40:21 GMT -5
One point that needs to be made is that we all should be careful as to not let experience dictate the future or that everyone will be alike. Not everyone has a desire to be married. Not everyone desires to have children.
I believe that for some people, it could be true that they don't need "marriage". Maybe for them, friendship with people is enough. Not everyone will fall into the "proverbial mold".
I would question if some of the statements that are used to verify that we need someone besides Jesus is scriptural or just something that we have picked up since we are in this world
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so thankful that I allowed him to get me to that point "focused and balanced" on/in Him!
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