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Post by nina2 on May 9, 2007 12:21:09 GMT -5
I have a question: Over the past few years, I have heard ministers specifically preaching, or teaching specifically, about "how to love a black man". My question is: why is it necessary to specifically teach "how to love a black man"? Doesn't it, in the long run, create new stereotypes not only about black men, but also about the women loving them? I don't ask to offend anyone, it just doesn't sound right to me.....  |
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Post by stillfocused on May 9, 2007 13:12:50 GMT -5
That is a good question !!
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Post by giantsdodie on May 10, 2007 8:54:37 GMT -5
I would like to see some teaching on how to love a Man of God. But truthfully I have to say there are some things that black men deal with that other men do not and vice versa. So if we make the topic how to love a man of GOD that will cover every man  |
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Post by nina2 on May 11, 2007 5:54:19 GMT -5
I agree Giants. It would put the spotlight where it should be. Could you lead us into it with this direction? Thank you |
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Post by Jasmine on May 11, 2007 23:06:59 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't think its necessary.
If a woman can love and respect her unsaved husband, loving him as man of God, shouldn't be difficult.
if we have to preach on how to love a man of God, something is wrong.
We must have not grasped the basic concept of who God is.
If anything, I think the message should be, how to treat a man of God, and How to treat God's People in general.
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Post by nina2 on May 13, 2007 14:43:45 GMT -5
Wouldn't that take us back to square one though? Wouldn't the foundation be love? Happy Blessed Mother's Day to you too |
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Post by giantsdodie on May 14, 2007 9:17:49 GMT -5
Jasmine while I understand what you are saying I dont necessarily agree. We obviously have an issue with love when te divorce rate in the church is ridiculously high and we even have pastors and leaders getting married and divorced two and three times.
Do we need to use the pulpit on Sundays to teach this. I would say probably not. Should we have some teaching on it with things like workshops and retreats.. Definitely yes.
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Post by stillfocused on May 14, 2007 12:11:12 GMT -5
Jasmine..I understand where you're coming..yet, if we commanded to love one another. Then why does it have to be" I can love him because he is man of God ?" "They saved..so, you know I can love them". Giants..hit on something very important..the divorce rate. I believe because we don't see people through the eyes of God..as redeemable, as someone that he loves...we treat them differently. And sad for the body of Christ..when a someone from the "church" is treated with great honor and respect..then you go and treat your spouse like dirt..it shows a lack of love for the one that you are married to. And sadly, even though time is spent trying to change someone else..the word of God has not really taken root for the changes to be seen by the other spouse..
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Post by livinganewlife on May 14, 2007 13:57:41 GMT -5
As a child of God is Love conditional or unconditional?
Also in marriages, in regards to the divorce rates.. IMO the problem is not Love it is more so Tolerance....
We live in an era where we don't have to tolerate anything we don't want too.........
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Post by Jasmine on May 14, 2007 15:17:53 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from Giants, But I fall more in line with LANL comments. I too believe that tolerance plays more of a greater part in the divorce rate being so high in the church, than knowing how to love a man of God.
We should have seminars geared toward married couples, with topic discussions on communication, and intimacy,but how to love each other...I don't know.
In the past women tolerated a mans ignorance, cheating, drug additions, and etcc...much more than women do today. And guess what, they were said to be Men of God.
We are very educated these days, and our tolerance level is very very low.
people can't tolerate how their husband smack while chewing his food, so they want a divorce. One sight of trouble, and it's im out of here.
These are the days that we live in now. If I can get a divorce over my husband smacking while chewing..I don't need to be taught how to love him...I never loved him. and thats the bottom line.
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Post by stillfocused on May 15, 2007 17:38:23 GMT -5
You can't teach someone to love another..if they don't love themselves.
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Post by Jasmine on May 15, 2007 21:10:33 GMT -5
Absolutely,
One must come to the realization of Who God is, His love for them, and inspite of it all he loves us more than anyone /body.
when we realize that there is no greater love than Gods love..we too can see ourselves the way God see's us, and when we see ourselves like he sees us...how much more will we be able to love each other beyond our differences and flawed character.
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Post by Beulah5 on Jun 3, 2007 5:14:41 GMT -5
I agree with all the statements about how love is the key however on a practical level there are things that apply in various cultures. I am from africa and there are certainly certain specific things that a person has to take on if they want to marry someone from a different culture.
A mild example is for instance we are very focused on family life and extended family play a big part in our lives. We do not send people off to nursing homes because we do not have them neither do we want to have them. With europeans for instance the concentration is more on a man and his nuclear family.
I have seen marriages break up because of 'cultural' differences not because of skin colour. The colour of my skin does not guarantee that every black person i meet in europe or americal i am going to get along or have much in common.
I believe that with marriage it is not just enough to just love the person u also need to have a common purpose and shared interests or else u shd not be getting married in the first place.
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