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Post by Jasmine on Aug 27, 2007 11:50:16 GMT -5
I believe that the key to everything in this life is relationship. Over the years as i grow in the lord i realise that if i do not pursue intimacy with the lord and His will for my life then i am not going to be of use to myself my husband or any relations He puts around me. One day i was in church and they were asking for people who wanted to receive some anointing to go forward as i was going the lord nailed me to the floor and stuck me there-He said to me : I am snapping independence out of you i want you to see that without me you can do nothing and that i want to be involved in every aspect, every minute, every decision i want to be foremost. Saints after that i tried to get up but was stuck to the floor. I could not move-God had paralysed me there i was so broken for a week i could not stop weeping when God began to show me that to think that i could make choices or do anything without an absolute dependency on Him was my own arrogant conceited heart. He showed me that i could do nothing without Him and i could also do nothing without the body of Christ. He alone knows the way that we take and to be honest i am so scared of the mess i am capable of making that i want Him to be the decision driver. Now i am aware that we are all different but what i believe is being shared here but coming out in different places is : relationship. A deep intimate relationship with Jesus where knowing Him and doing His will are paramount in our lives and so in our everyday activities we have an ear to Him. Also if u know Him then u will know what ur destiny is and u will also know what kind of marriage or mate He will have for u because there is purpose for our lives, purpose for our marriages, purpose for our relationships. If we truly believe that we are not our own and that we have been purchased for a price then we will understand God's need to have us available as witnesses be it on ur block, where u work, the families we marry into, the churches we attend down to the schools that our children attend so we cannot just make any decision about who we marry. Relationship with Jesus is a living active relationship stronger than any covenant where His opinion on everything that we do counts not only to us but also to Him for that is why He came and died. Now if u are in this deep place and start and end ur day with Him then whether He speaks to you directly or arranges circumstances to fit His will that is ok because He has free rein in your life. Also everything that God says will line up and there is always the test of character and people that God has put in our lives. Sometimes the people that we think are going to be our blessing do not come the way we expect but God who alone sees and knows the road ahead is the only one we can lean on, and He alone knows what our future can be. A lot of people because of this lack of relationship do not realise what their own calling is not to speak of that of their marriage. If you know that God has called you to be a missionary to New Guinea u would know that when He brings u a mate that will fit in. If u know that God's plan for u and ur spouse is so u can be a witness on a certain block then u will realise why u need to know what His purpose is. Marriage is purposeful and when people get married just because they are lonely and want sex and someone to go dancing with after a while the whole thing will begin to get stale because there is no over all purpose driving it. The best marriages i have seen even in people who are not believers but have somehow gathered that they have come together to accomplish a common good for mankind are the strongest ones. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He will direct ur paths- even stronger for me: In all things that He may have the pre eminence   that was beautiful. |
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Post by MsKayLander on Aug 27, 2007 16:52:29 GMT -5
AWESOME!!!! ;D
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Post by Beck on Aug 27, 2007 17:47:47 GMT -5
I believe that the key to everything in this life is relationship. Over the years as i grow in the lord i realise that if i do not pursue intimacy with the lord and His will for my life then i am not going to be of use to myself my husband or any relations He puts around me. One day i was in church and they were asking for people who wanted to receive some anointing to go forward as i was going the lord nailed me to the floor and stuck me there-He said to me : I am snapping independence out of you i want you to see that without me you can do nothing and that i want to be involved in every aspect, every minute, every decision i want to be foremost. Saints after that i tried to get up but was stuck to the floor. I could not move-God had paralysed me there i was so broken for a week i could not stop weeping when God began to show me that to think that i could make choices or do anything without an absolute dependency on Him was my own arrogant conceited heart. He showed me that i could do nothing without Him and i could also do nothing without the body of Christ. He alone knows the way that we take and to be honest i am so scared of the mess i am capable of making that i want Him to be the decision driver. Now i am aware that we are all different but what i believe is being shared here but coming out in different places is : relationship. A deep intimate relationship with Jesus where knowing Him and doing His will are paramount in our lives and so in our everyday activities we have an ear to Him. Also if u know Him then u will know what ur destiny is and u will also know what kind of marriage or mate He will have for u because there is purpose for our lives, purpose for our marriages, purpose for our relationships. If we truly believe that we are not our own and that we have been purchased for a price then we will understand God's need to have us available as witnesses be it on ur block, where u work, the families we marry into, the churches we attend down to the schools that our children attend so we cannot just make any decision about who we marry. Relationship with Jesus is a living active relationship stronger than any covenant where His opinion on everything that we do counts not only to us but also to Him for that is why He came and died. Now if u are in this deep place and start and end ur day with Him then whether He speaks to you directly or arranges circumstances to fit His will that is ok because He has free rein in your life. Also everything that God says will line up and there is always the test of character and people that God has put in our lives. Sometimes the people that we think are going to be our blessing do not come the way we expect but God who alone sees and knows the road ahead is the only one we can lean on, and He alone knows what our future can be. A lot of people because of this lack of relationship do not realise what their own calling is not to speak of that of their marriage. If you know that God has called you to be a missionary to New Guinea u would know that when He brings u a mate that will fit in. If u know that God's plan for u and ur spouse is so u can be a witness on a certain block then u will realise why u need to know what His purpose is. Marriage is purposeful and when people get married just because they are lonely and want sex and someone to go dancing with after a while the whole thing will begin to get stale because there is no over all purpose driving it. The best marriages i have seen even in people who are not believers but have somehow gathered that they have come together to accomplish a common good for mankind are the strongest ones. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He will direct ur paths- even stronger for me: In all things that He may have the pre eminence Thank you for that testimony! It has given me a resolve...  |
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Post by Beulah5 on Aug 28, 2007 14:14:05 GMT -5
Aaw saints to God be the glory-God has been cutting Beulah up real deep. Talking about having a contrite heart-i thought i had one till God showed up!!  Who can stand before Him? For He is truly like a refiner's fire and last but not the least we can go on about how different things mean diffrent stuff to different people but what i am realising is that God and heaven definitely have got their own agenda, standard and absolutes about everything in our lives, churches, marriages and He aint playing. We better start lining up with heaven's agenda before God decides to show up because trust me i am experiencing the reality that it is better to humble one's self under the mighty hand of God or else if you dont and He ends up invading your life you will be left with nothing. Whoever said that the Holy Spirit is a gentleman? Again i say that Jesus is the way, He is the door and He is the key. He is everything. To Him be the glory |
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Post by keita on Aug 28, 2007 14:26:35 GMT -5
OH, LEAD ON WITH THE LIGHT, SISTA BEE! ;D
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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 28, 2007 15:54:05 GMT -5
Sister B that testimony was beautiful.......
So much has been said that i agree with...one thing i do agree with that God is a spirit and if he is involved in our life than everything we do is spiritual......
I can say that to "overspiritualize" situation does not always mean that God is involved........just like my cousin "overspiritualize" the call and confirmation for her marriage; however in the natural sense things were just done out of order.......and we know that God is a God of order.....
Many of time we don't understand the purpose of marriage and the union of becoming one is all about purpose and all about destiny...even those who aren't saved are a part of destiny as you procreate in marriage you are still playing a role in the destiny and purpose of that child........
To my Sister B and Sister Keita stay strong and keep looking forward to the day when Jesus will come seeking for His bride!
I am looking for that glorious day too!!!!!
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Post by kitty on Oct 3, 2007 17:33:24 GMT -5
Livingwife,
Thanks for sharing the testimony that you did... Your story brings up some imprtant questions... Such as do you think that there is "some sort" of spirit operating in your cousin's marriage... Be it non-Godly?
Giants I have always been thankful for your testimony. It is an example that people really can and do hear from God.
Yet I think that sometime people can look for signs or confirmations where there are none.
Or they go with things that are just coincidences... And I think there is a pressure for people to have a testimony like Giants or Nikkol's.
When that happens do people turn away from God given wisdom?
Kitty
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Post by kitty on Oct 3, 2007 17:33:52 GMT -5
Livingwife,
You said that you had other examples... can you share them?
Kitty
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Post by keita on Oct 3, 2007 20:54:45 GMT -5
Sis kitty, I had been looking for a post on marriage that I remembered sis lanl making, but I just couldn't remember which thread it was on. So thanks for bringing me right to it! And I appreciate you reviving this thread because, imho, this and the other marriage topics couldn't be more on time, especially at this time.  |
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Post by kitty on Oct 30, 2007 11:52:17 GMT -5
Hey Guys,
This is a topic that I want to discuss with the rest of you all... it has been weighing heavy on my heart for quite some time. There is a specific reason that this topic is on my heart... I believe I can hear God with clarity for other areas of my life... But it seems as if I'm not so sure about the area of marriage.
I have had God show me things to come that all came to pass... I have had God give me specific directions that kept me from harm. But in this area... When it comes to a husband I'm not sure what happens? So although I would like with much desire to know in my heart that God has hand picked someone for me I could be very well one of the people who will have to relay on my common sense.
I really want to share some thing with you all... These are the things that I don't talk about with everyone and it's one of those days that I'm glad that this board is semi-private. But I know you all are really good people so I would like some prayer and some feed back because I am going through a bit of a hard time. I could really use some Godly wisdom.
In about a month I am set to spend some time with a young man whom I believe God has stated is His choice to be my husband. I received a dream about this person before I ever met him. I call it a dream but it was more like a vision. God showed me traveling by bus and by train with this person and in my mind I was wondering why i was receiving this? And who was the person I was with? Especially I alway drive everywhere I am never on the train. God said this person is your husband and this why you are with him.
When I received that reply I was a bit shocked... this person is defintely not what I would have called "my type". In fact I had the gall to declare that I "didn't think so.... I got free will God !!"
Low and behold... God sneaks this person upon me about a year later. I met him on the internet and talked to him as a friend. I hadn't seen him in person. By the time I met him I truly adored him so I went to pray to God about him. ( I hadn't recalled the dream at that time...) I prayed shortly before going to visit him in another state. Not only did God bring back the recollection of the dream.... I did end up traveling with this person by train and bus when I got to the other state... Certain places I recalled from my dream.
I took this to be a confirmation that what I received was truly from God... Yet a lot of time has passed... It's been about 5 years... And it seems as if the timing for us to start a relationship is just never right. This man is a close friend of mine and we talk regularly. I have never told him about what I believed I received from God. I don't plan to... I would prefer to watch to see if God brings it to pass...
So here are my concerns... This isn't the first time that I received something on a "supernatural level" about someone being a husband. I had a serious counterfeit experience back in 2000. It was completely wild because this guy was coming to me and declaring that I was his wife. I had more "confirmations' ie "coincidences" than you could shake a stick at! But I tell you guys... it was a truly demonic experience. When ever I got with this guy a spirit of lust would come over us. I was always thing to keep things "above board" and he most defintely didn't turn out to be the Christian I expected him to be... That guy broke with me with date another woman that he was sleeping with and ended up marrying. But the whole experience shook me because I always believed up to that point that everything i had received up to that point was God... I now know that's not the case....
Thus coming back to my present situation... I'm just feeling a bit leary... He is a good person and does seem to be intersted in me. We haven't spent much time togher in person... this is a major concern that he has had with me. So we will get to do that now... But I have been afraid that some how maybe I just missed the boat again.
I have promised that I was going to give this situation another 4 months but that then I need to move on... But the thought is that then I am on my own to figure out who to marry? Because honestly guys... if this is another counterfiet situation... I don't think I have the "faith" it takes to see if something is false having waited for so long in this situation...
Any thoughts or testimonies would be greatly appreciated....
Kitty
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 30, 2007 18:02:18 GMT -5
I had written out something at work, and I thought I saved it to post on here when I got home, but...I don't know what happened.
I basically said two things.
Continue to pray and wait for Clarity. I am very leery of these internet hookup, because you never really know that person's Background and history. I have seen some women go through some (hellish) this because they married individuals who came in the church saying...God said you are my wife. They dont know anything bout their history, where they from, where they been..So you have to be careful.
Now, if you believe that God is saying that this man is your husband...WE can't tell you that he isnt. You have to continue to pray, and listen to the voice of the Lord. NOW, I will say that I would let him tell me that God said I was his wife, before I would tell him that God said he was my husband, that way it is confirmation to you. I say wait on the Lord...because all things are revealed in time.
Also stated in my long post that can't be found is that...some times..warnings also come in the form of dreams and visions.
I dreamed of my new born daughter on a table dead, months ahead of tim, before I even went into the hospital to deliver her. In that dream I laid hands on her, and the scene faded to black and a new scene came in with me standing before people in a church testifing, or preaching, or singing..or something, but I kept pointing to the baby carrier on the pew. It definitely had a baby in it. I coudn't tell if it was a boy or a girl, but I knew it was a baby and it was mine. I assumed it was my daughter jasmine because there was no way I could see God allowing my daughter to die during childbirth.
Now of course, I awoke rebuking the devil, casting him back to the pits of hell, and out of my dreams and declaring that my child would indeed be born alive and would live and not die.
In a sense, those spoken words are true...She is alive in Christ, but she did die 6-7 minutes after she was born. After a couple of day in the hospital, that dream came back to my rememberance, and for a short period of time, I felt as if God had failed me, I felt that he allowed me to "speak and believe" all that I did, knowing all along she would die...
I'd like to say Im a little wiser, and I have come to realize that he was actually warning me. I couldnt describe then, and I can't describe it now the peace I felt after awaking from the anesthesia to "tashua, she didnt make it, Jasmine didn't make it."
So continue to pray..listen to God, and hear him GOOD!
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Post by newmercies on Oct 30, 2007 21:54:15 GMT -5
Hey Guys, This is a topic that I want to discuss with the rest of you all... it has been weighing heavy on my heart for quite some time. There is a specific reason that this topic is on my heart... I believe I can hear God with clarity for other areas of my life... But it seems as if I'm not so sure about the area of marriage. I have had God show me things to come that all came to pass... I have had God give me specific directions that kept me from harm. But in this area... When it comes to a husband I'm not sure what happens? So although I would like with much desire to know in my heart that God has hand picked someone for me I could be very well one of the people who will have to relay on my common sense. I really want to share some thing with you all... These are the things that I don't talk about with everyone and it's one of those days that I'm glad that this board is semi-private. But I know you all are really good people so I would like some prayer and some feed back because I am going through a bit of a hard time. I could really use some Godly wisdom. In about a month I am set to spend some time with a young man whom I believe God has stated is His choice to be my husband. I received a dream about this person before I ever met him. I call it a dream but it was more like a vision. God showed me traveling by bus and by train with this person and in my mind I was wondering why i was receiving this? And who was the person I was with? Especially I alway drive everywhere I am never on the train. God said this person is your husband and this why you are with him. When I received that reply I was a bit shocked... this person is defintely not what I would have called "my type". In fact I had the gall to declare that I "didn't think so.... I got free will God !!" Low and behold... God sneaks this person upon me about a year later. I met him on the internet and talked to him as a friend. I hadn't seen him in person. By the time I met him I truly adored him so I went to pray to God about him. ( I hadn't recalled the dream at that time...) I prayed shortly before going to visit him in another state. Not only did God bring back the recollection of the dream.... I did end up traveling with this person by train and bus when I got to the other state... Certain places I recalled from my dream. I took this to be a confirmation that what I received was truly from God... Yet a lot of time has passed... It's been about 5 years... And it seems as if the timing for us to start a relationship is just never right. This man is a close friend of mine and we talk regularly. I have never told him about what I believed I received from God. I don't plan to... I would prefer to watch to see if God brings it to pass... So here are my concerns... This isn't the first time that I received something on a "supernatural level" about someone being a husband. I had a serious counterfeit experience back in 2000. It was completely wild because this guy was coming to me and declaring that I was his wife. I had more "confirmations' ie "coincidences" than you could shake a stick at! But I tell you guys... it was a truly demonic experience. When ever I got with this guy a spirit of lust would come over us. I was always thing to keep things "above board" and he most defintely didn't turn out to be the Christian I expected him to be... That guy broke with me with date another woman that he was sleeping with and ended up marrying. But the whole experience shook me because I always believed up to that point that everything i had received up to that point was God... I now know that's not the case.... Thus coming back to my present situation... I'm just feeling a bit leary... He is a good person and does seem to be intersted in me. We haven't spent much time togher in person... this is a major concern that he has had with me. So we will get to do that now... But I have been afraid that some how maybe I just missed the boat again. I have promised that I was going to give this situation another 4 months but that then I need to move on... But the thought is that then I am on my own to figure out who to marry? Because honestly guys... if this is another counterfiet situation... I don't think I have the "faith" it takes to see if something is false having waited for so long in this situation... Any thoughts or testimonies would be greatly appreciated.... Kitty OMG kitty wow what a testimony, ive been going through a very simular situation and yes it is hard having a long distance relationship. I trully believe that if he is you husband then God will reveal it to him as well. ;D Love Jessica |
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Post by kitty on Oct 30, 2007 22:12:12 GMT -5
Jasmine,
Thanks for your post.... As far as the guy is concerned he is a clean cut, saved Christian man. I've done the "back ground check" so to speak. At this point I have known him for many years, I've met most of his family and have been to his job. So I'm not questioning whether or not he is a good man...
My concern comes from hearing from God... I'm starting to worry if I am not hearly clearly in this area....
I'm sorry to hear about your daughter... I have had a similar experience. When I was very young around the age of 10 God gave me one of the most vivid visions of life. Although I am 37 now I can recall the vision like it was yesterday... At the age of 10 God showed me what all my first cousins and myself would look like as adult in our late 20's. it was detailed as well...God showed me specifics that amazed me. I saw tatatoo's one cousin was going to get on his arm to another cousin dying her hair red.... At the age of 10 could hardly believe what I was seeing but the part of the vision that stood out the most was the fact that one of my cousins wasn't there. In my dream I started looking for him... The more I looked the answer that was being dropped into my spirit was that he wasn't going to live to be an adult...
This was the very first vision that God every gave me... I woke up rying to shake off the fact that one of my cousin's was going to die... I didn't want to believe it. I told myself that it was just a dream. The very next year he came down with cancer and died...
Last summer before I moved to another state when I went to church God dropped into my spirit that it was the last time that I was going to see my Pastor. I didn't know why I would receive such a message so I rebuked the devil as well... But sure enough... he died 7 months later.
I'm not sure why God shows us a vision where people die... I don't know if it is just showing His will or if it is meant to be a warning...
Kitty
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Post by newmercies on Oct 30, 2007 22:13:30 GMT -5
I believe that the key to everything in this life is relationship. Over the years as i grow in the lord i realise that if i do not pursue intimacy with the lord and His will for my life then i am not going to be of use to myself my husband or any relations He puts around me. One day i was in church and they were asking for people who wanted to receive some anointing to go forward as i was going the lord nailed me to the floor and stuck me there-He said to me : I am snapping independence out of you i want you to see that without me you can do nothing and that i want to be involved in every aspect, every minute, every decision i want to be foremost. Saints after that i tried to get up but was stuck to the floor. I could not move-God had paralysed me there i was so broken for a week i could not stop weeping when God began to show me that to think that i could make choices or do anything without an absolute dependency on Him was my own arrogant conceited heart. He showed me that i could do nothing without Him and i could also do nothing without the body of Christ. He alone knows the way that we take and to be honest i am so scared of the mess i am capable of making that i want Him to be the decision driver. Now i am aware that we are all different but what i believe is being shared here but coming out in different places is : relationship. A deep intimate relationship with Jesus where knowing Him and doing His will are paramount in our lives and so in our everyday activities we have an ear to Him. Also if u know Him then u will know what ur destiny is and u will also know what kind of marriage or mate He will have for u because there is purpose for our lives, purpose for our marriages, purpose for our relationships. If we truly believe that we are not our own and that we have been purchased for a price then we will understand God's need to have us available as witnesses be it on ur block, where u work, the families we marry into, the churches we attend down to the schools that our children attend so we cannot just make any decision about who we marry. Relationship with Jesus is a living active relationship stronger than any covenant where His opinion on everything that we do counts not only to us but also to Him for that is why He came and died. Now if u are in this deep place and start and end ur day with Him then whether He speaks to you directly or arranges circumstances to fit His will that is ok because He has free rein in your life. Also everything that God says will line up and there is always the test of character and people that God has put in our lives. Sometimes the people that we think are going to be our blessing do not come the way we expect but God who alone sees and knows the road ahead is the only one we can lean on, and He alone knows what our future can be. A lot of people because of this lack of relationship do not realise what their own calling is not to speak of that of their marriage. If you know that God has called you to be a missionary to New Guinea u would know that when He brings u a mate that will fit in. If u know that God's plan for u and ur spouse is so u can be a witness on a certain block then u will realise why u need to know what His purpose is. Marriage is purposeful and when people get married just because they are lonely and want sex and someone to go dancing with after a while the whole thing will begin to get stale because there is no over all purpose driving it. The best marriages i have seen even in people who are not believers but have somehow gathered that they have come together to accomplish a common good for mankind are the strongest ones. In all thy ways acknowledge Him and He will direct ur paths- even stronger for me: In all things that He may have the pre eminence Glory to God wewwwww I got chills after I read this testimony thank you sista B for sharing |
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Post by Beck on Oct 31, 2007 5:56:12 GMT -5
Kitty, like Jasmine I wrote down something but when I went to post it, my session timed out..sorry.
Basically sister you cannot allow fear of your past cause you to be apprehensive. Remember God did not give us the spirit of fear... Sometimes what we do is we allow satan to get in and cause us to reject Gods presentation of our mates. (remember God presented Eve to Adam)...
Also we have to keep in mind that our motives for marriage is correct... God didnt give eve to adam because adam felt alone... but God gave eve to adam to compliment that which was already in him. Remember that it was God who said.."look its not good for man to be alone"..it wasnt adams recommendation. One other thing is MAKE SURE that you pray and seek the mind of God concerning this.. .dont allow a good feeling, a cute personality, or a good dinner to persuade you..cause satan can can come dressed up in all of these things...rebuke fear and walk in submission to the WILL of God, and as he presents you to your husband to be, and he presents him to you... you will both make sound choices concerning each other. One thing you said in your post is "you have free will"..and thats very true..and God will not take that away from you...so as the presentations are made...choose wisely.
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that was beautiful. 
