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Post by vin on Feb 27, 2009 10:34:36 GMT -5
Yeah, but hold on though. If they can't quote him as calling them stepsons I wouldn't accuse him. You know how the media is and can be. You know how they dig around for "dirt" and then start inserting into the story. I'd be real careful about that unless I see him actually quoted as calling them stepsons.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 1, 2009 4:19:30 GMT -5
I have never heard Bishop Jakes refer to the twins as stepsons..he always referred to them as his sons. When they were TBN one night..he spoke of his sons. And just recently I was reading through Loosed That Man and Let Him Go...he required to them as his sons. It's amazing the things that come out when there is a crisis going on in someone else's home..whether it's the truth or a lie..and sadly, most grab hold and run with the lie before they will with the truth.
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Post by auneeqsol on Mar 9, 2009 13:51:55 GMT -5
Sometimes kids feel like they have a lot of pressure on them because of who their parents are. Im not saying that he doesnt spend time with his kids, but im saying that we dont know whether they have cried out before with issues. I know Serita is not happy with what the media said. We do have to remember no matter who's family it is no one family is perfect, saved or not.
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Post by vin on Mar 9, 2009 14:02:52 GMT -5
Amen
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 11, 2009 0:21:02 GMT -5
Bishop Jakes mentioned in his message The Spell Binder which he preached at New Birth some years..that he had to come the road because the devil was after his child. He didn't say which one..it around the same time as the previous arrest...he did mention that he knew what is like to have hell breaking out in your home. auneeqsol you are so right..Pastors kids are expected to act and be a certain way because of who their parents are..I am watching it right with my Pastors children and I have watched with other Pastor's children. Sadly, they are reached to know that their lives are under a microscope and told they are "special" becauase they are the Pastor's kids..
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 11, 2009 0:29:57 GMT -5
I had a child ask me " do you know who the Pastor is?"..basically she was telling me she was related to Pastor..I personally feel that a big dishonor to children..when they are taught that they have rank because they are related to the Pastor because outside the "church world" they are not really able to function..because the rules of engagement are totally different.
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Post by vin on Mar 11, 2009 8:23:36 GMT -5
And you know SF I don't think the problem is so much they are being told they are special because of who their parents are as it is that many other parents are NOT telling their own children how special they are. There is a different level of confidence, yes even when children are doing wrong, when they know they are accepted and loved no matter what, no matter who their parents are.
I do understand that there are pastors and leaders who act like their children are better or more worthy. But on the other side there are people who would crucify the pastor and his whole family if they could.
But for the most part we all are going to receive some kind of treatment, good or bad, based on who we are related to or affiliated with. Even on a job it can get you hired or fired, just who you associate with.
I don't know when this boy started doing this but I'm telling y'all when he was on TBN with Bishop Jakes several years ago he was feminine then. It was like he was containing himself as much as he could but he was already out there. You could see it. I know I could.
There is a single mom at my church. Four children. One daughter is the prettiest chocolate faced girl but I have seen that girl for YEARS dress more and more masculine. Khakis, t-shirts, boy shoes, boyish braids. For a while she was not wanting to be such a tom boy. But then she just slowly became more and more boyish. I used to say to myself that if I was her mother I would make her wear dresses. But when she wore them, eewww, she still walked like a boy. Recently somebody saw her in a club with her girlfriend dancing all over her. Well the next couple of Sundays she was at church coming to the altar for prayer.
I can't imagine what it must be like as a parent who loves the Lord and raise your children in church to watch that happen to your child.
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Post by Nikkol on Mar 11, 2009 14:24:28 GMT -5
This is a Side Note but that still sounds "funny" to me when braids in general were always seen as something solely for women. |
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Post by vin on Mar 11, 2009 20:56:31 GMT -5
Nikkol,
I understand what you're saying. I guess like saying men's earrings. Anymore the lines are so blurred in some cases. But you know that straight back hair braid style? That's what I'm talking about. But you know even when she wore it combed back and in a ponytail, it was just masculine. Because she's masculine.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 12, 2009 12:04:31 GMT -5
Thanks..Vin! Let me rephrase what it..by special I mean..they are given preferential treatment..send to the head of the line because of who they are..not because they are beautiful, wonderfully, and fearfully made. I have a heard a Pastor's child " I should got mine's first..because their parents were the Pastors. And I agree we must tell our child that they are beautiful, and etc..I had my niece who was 3 at the time..saying out loud that she was fearfully and wonderfully made..because she was already getting a complex because of what some silly adult was telling her..and there are some who like to crucify the Pastor and his family. Vin, I remember that show and I saw the same thing..
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Post by vin on Mar 12, 2009 12:10:26 GMT -5
You know I've seen both sides too SF. I've seen people in church be so disappointed in leadership because they will sit other people down in minstry if they get caught doing something but the pastor's kid will keep getting up ministering, preaching, singing, and everybody knows they are out there CLOWNING. That's a hard pill to swallow right there.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 12, 2009 13:45:25 GMT -5
Vin..I am screaming AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's the situation in our church right..fam doing the do..smoking weed..don't show for service..but, next week up there on the instruments like nothing has happened. I am not saying that all are like that..because the other child in the previous was off helping out an adult..I know that we have no control over our childeren when they turn 21; yet, I stronly believe that what they see lived will come whether it's good or bad
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