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Post by kitty on Jul 19, 2009 8:17:17 GMT -5
Anointed Teacher, My comments in regards to money wasn't about their personal business. It was in regards to the mis-management of church money! Which apparently didn't all go to feed and take of the poor! In fact that is one of the things I dislike the most about mega churches... They are more about raising money to buy a building than they are about getting people off drugs, sending people to college and in today's economy...Helping people to KEEP their homes rather than suggesting their give their very last dime to a cause in which more often than not God isn't calling them to do. Now that's just my personal opinion and what I happen to see in general.... I'm sure it's not every mega church but it certain is alot of them... I'm almost embarrassed when they tell stories of accepting people's watches and wedding ring and engagement rings...yes engagement rings to use to get a building because those people didn't have anything else of value to give. Now if that isn't greed than i don't know what is...
Lastly... Krazeboi I agree with you. She's coming back to get her "hustle on"! LOL She needs to pay some bills. I don't know how much God has to do with it especially if He called her away from that place as she claimed earlier.
Kitty
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Post by krazeeboi on Jul 20, 2009 2:15:03 GMT -5
Please explain why it is out of order? Is it because she a woman and You believe woman don't suppose to pastor? Paula White can really out preach Randy White? Because in another post, you say she can't preach. Oh Well... somebody like her... I know ppl will run back to th church... it must have gotten boring after she left... nobody clapping their neighbors What is out of order is having the wife as the head of the church while the husband is in some "other" capacity. And no, she really can't preach. She's really nothing more than a cliche queen, but people really like that stuff. She is definitely more entertaining than her ex-husband though, that much is for certain.
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Post by Nikkol on Jul 20, 2009 6:59:02 GMT -5
Please explain why it is out of order? Is it because she a woman and You believe woman don't suppose to pastor? Paula White can really out preach Randy White? Because in another post, you say she can't preach. Oh Well... somebody like her... I know ppl will run back to th church... it must have gotten boring after she left... nobody clapping their neighbors What is out of order is having the wife as the head of the church while the husband is in some "other" capacity. And no, she really can't preach. She's really nothing more than a cliche queen, but people really like that stuff. She is definitely more entertaining than her ex-husband though, that much is for certain. <<hitting the "like" on Facebook>> Man is called to be the head....pretty black and white.
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Post by giantsdodie on Jul 20, 2009 9:55:48 GMT -5
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Post by anointedteacher on Jul 20, 2009 11:25:43 GMT -5
What is out of order is having the wife as the head of the church while the husband is in some "other" capacity. And no, she really can't preach. She's really nothing more than a cliche queen, but people really like that stuff. She is definitely more entertaining than her ex-husband though, that much is for certain. <<hitting the "like" on Facebook>> Man is called to be the head....pretty black and white. Which one the white one or the black one ;D ;D ;D Paula is single, so her head is Christ, not Randy.... Randy nolonger cover her.... He just trust her enough to pastor the church. She didn't want to leave Church Without Walls anyway, and kept returning.... Posted by krazeeboi on 7/20/09at 3:15amRandy is not Paula's husband!!! He want her there because he is having health problems, and know he will live longer if he step down (more ppl need to follow him).... She probably the only person he can trust to carry out the vision without stapping him in the back. PW is far from being my favorite preacher.... Just because I don't care for her style... doesn't mean she can't preach and teach. PPl are receiving from her and are being blessed. I don't want to go through 10 pages of women preachers and pastors debate.... we went through that over and over again and everybody are struck to there own mindset and belief.... If U don't believe in women pearchers, do not follow or listen to women pearchers and stick to all those hardheaded men...
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Post by Nikkol on Jul 20, 2009 13:02:21 GMT -5
There's a difference between women preachers and women pastors. I don't think that anyone was arguing the former.....
At the same time, with a church of that size, are you (general) going to say that there were no other elders/ministers in the church that they had to look outside the ministry? Granted, that could be true....but this would be the first big church that I knew of with only one person being licensed or ordained.
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Post by anointedteacher on Jul 20, 2009 15:57:43 GMT -5
There's a difference between women preachers and women pastors. I don't think that anyone was arguing the former..... At the same time, with a church of that size, are you (general) going to say that there were no other elders/ministers in the church that they had to look outside the ministry? Granted, that could be true....but this would be the first big church that I knew of with only one person being licensed or ordained. Other ministers may not be called to pastor.... This may be HER CALLING which U don't believe in... Randy called her back to pastor the church for him, because he feel she is the right person. He may not feel comfortable with those other ministers, because they may not a true friends and some proven to be phony. A bishop I have known for a while passed about 2 weeks ago. About 3 or 4 years ago, he told his congregation that if he die, his wife will be pastoring the church and if they have a problem with woman pastor.... they may leave now. She had been ordianed as a pastor way before he passed. Now, she is the senior pastor of the church. I have been around many woman pastors who are anointed in their office and appoved by God...
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Post by Rachel2 on Jul 20, 2009 16:07:11 GMT -5
There's a difference between women preachers and women pastors. I don't think that anyone was arguing the former..... At the same time, with a church of that size, are you (general) going to say that there were no other elders/ministers in the church that they had to look outside the ministry? Granted, that could be true....but this would be the first big church that I knew of with only one person being licensed or ordained. For the sake of curiosity Nikkol, if for some reason your husband needed to step down as pastor of your church, are you next in line for the position?
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Jul 20, 2009 17:08:48 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Jul 20, 2009 17:45:06 GMT -5
For the sake of curiosity Nikkol, if for some reason your husband needed to step down as pastor of your church, are you next in line for the position? lol i am thinking of jesus when he appeared to the disciples after the resurrection and he said "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me?" ;D ;D ;D (just having some fun rachel2, please don't take offense. some of us know each other a little more than others, so i kinda feel like i know the answer)
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Post by krazeeboi on Jul 20, 2009 18:23:19 GMT -5
Paula is single, so her head is Christ, not Randy.... Randy nolonger cover her.... He just trust her enough to pastor the church. Now we could get into the whole marriage/divorce debate, but I'm not going there. Suffice it to say, though, that I think that most of us here don't hold up irreconcilable differences as justification (specifically biblical justification, for those who believe that way) for divorce. So they're already out of the will of God right there. This whole thing is just wrong on so many levels until it's not funny. Lord, when will people wake up? ?
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Post by stillfocused on Jul 20, 2009 20:49:40 GMT -5
Y'all know what this back and forth in regards to Paula White and whoever else is pointless. Because when judgment day comes they will have to stand before God just like they will. At the beginning of the month it may have mattered..yet, I keep hearing about what I consider to be young Pastors dying from heart ailments it made me realize that the things that we argue about..hold own beliefs abouts and become very opinionated about doesn't matter. It matters me wonder about the many souls out there who are lost, who have walked away, and who have made the choice to walk because we don't know act or treat one another. It's just not worth it me..because it's some truth to matter and there is some deceitfulness to the matter. They are accountable for the many souls that they caused to fall; just as well those they ministered to who gave their hearts to Lord.
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Post by anointedteacher on Jul 20, 2009 21:39:51 GMT -5
Paula is single, so her head is Christ, not Randy.... Randy nolonger cover her.... He just trust her enough to pastor the church. Now we could get into the whole marriage/divorce debate, but I'm not going there. Suffice it to say, though, that I think that most of us here don't hold up irreconcilable differences as justification (specifically biblical justification, for those who believe that way) for divorce. So they're already out of the will of God right there. This whole thing is just wrong on so many levels until it's not funny. Lord, when will people wake up? ? You and I don't know the ground of their divorce.... they kept that a secert and covered each other. I believe they are legally divorce and nolonger married... He is not her husband.... like U, I am not going debate, we already did that and U believe what U believe and I also stand my ground in what I believe ... Do I think it is right? No, it is wrong, wrong, I believe they can be forgiven and restored.. I believe if your spouse is not abusing you: physically, verbally, emotionally or spiriually, and not having an on going affair, you should fight for your marriage. We are in the dark of what really happen, so we can not judge.
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Post by anointedteacher on Jul 20, 2009 21:45:07 GMT -5
There's a difference between women preachers and women pastors. I don't think that anyone was arguing the former..... At the same time, with a church of that size, are you (general) going to say that there were no other elders/ministers in the church that they had to look outside the ministry? Granted, that could be true....but this would be the first big church that I knew of with only one person being licensed or ordained. For the sake of curiosity Nikkol, if for some reason your husband needed to step down as pastor of your church, are you next in line for the position? NO... she will let Minister Takeover to come in and destroy everything her husband worked so hard to accomplished. And the minister will make his wife co-pastor and kick them out the church
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Post by krazeeboi on Jul 21, 2009 1:21:07 GMT -5
Do I think it is right? No, it is wrong, wrong, I believe they can be forgiven and restored.. I believe if your spouse is not abusing you: physically, verbally, emotionally or spiriually, and not having an on going affair, you should fight for your marriage. We are in the dark of what really happen, so we can not judge. Well, I'm glad to know we agree on something.
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