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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 5, 2009 9:29:03 GMT -5
Proverbs 13:22
A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just .
Based on the above scripture do you all believe in the end time transfer of wealth that is prophesied to come to the body of Christ.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 5, 2009 14:03:16 GMT -5
Proverbs 13:22
A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just . Based on the above scripture do you all believe in the end time transfer of wealth that is prophesied to come to the body of Christ. Well considering the fact we are already in the end times.. yes.... Now whether that wealth will flow to certain individuals or not is dependent upon their walk with GOD and the particular call that GOD has on their lives. We must also define what is wealth. is wealth the transfer of money or is wealth the transfer of information, wisdom and knowledge that can open the door to financial blessings.. |
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 6, 2009 11:15:53 GMT -5
What other scriptures is the "end time transfer of wealth" based on? I ask because I see very little justification for that concept in scripture, but hey, maybe I'm missing something.
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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 11, 2009 10:30:37 GMT -5
Well KB there are other scriptures many use to support this theory:
One off hand is Eccl.2:26
For God giveth to a man that is good in his sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that he may give to him that is good before God. This also is vanity and vexation of spirit.
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Deuteronomy 8:16Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end;
These two scriptures come to mind that I know of right now which is used to support this doctrine....
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 11, 2009 13:16:22 GMT -5
I'm not really seeing any justification of the doctrine in those passages either, especially since they aren't found in OT prophetic books or passages. I'm not shooting the messenger here, but just making that general comment. I would be a bit more inclined to take the doctrine seriously if I saw a NT passage deal with it.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 11, 2009 20:14:48 GMT -5
Why does it have to be found specifically in OT prophetic books or passages and why do you believe the doctrine has to appear in the NT for it to apply  |
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 11, 2009 23:40:58 GMT -5
Many times we look to doctrines that become the end of all to what we believe. A few weeks ago this is what came to me..we stay that wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous....not the "saved"..yet, those who are in right standing with God..and the question is are righteous before God and not in your eyes. There must be true righteous..the righteousness that God is looking for only. I know that this maybe not to add to topic..yet, this passage of scripture says alot and sums up alot at the same time..
Hebrews 1:8: But of the Son He says..Your throne, O God is Forever and Ever. And the righteous Scepter is the Scepter of the Kingdom.
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 12, 2009 12:24:05 GMT -5
Why does it have to be found specifically in OT prophetic books or passages and why do you believe the doctrine has to appear in the NT for it to apply Because those are where the vast majority of prophecies that directly relate to the Church are found. And I didn't say that evidence of the doctrine has to appear in the NT for it to be valid, but that I would be more inclined to accept it if it did. As far as I'm concerned, it sounds like another Western-oriented, Americanized doctrine conjured up to justify our insatiable thirst to consume and acquire more stuff. |
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Post by MinLisa on Aug 13, 2009 14:34:50 GMT -5
hmmmm Transfer of Wealth...Wealth meaning having an abundance of valuable material possessions or resources (per dictionary)
this is just me.. I wouldn't want it...for the scripture states it hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God....If I had wealth... I wouldn't even know how to act....LOL!!!
I thank God for just giving me what and I need.... But If my ways please the Lord No good thing he will with hold from me.... So right now.... I thank God for what I have.....
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 17, 2009 11:14:57 GMT -5
hmmmm Transfer of Wealth...Wealth meaning having an abundance of valuable material possessions or resources (per dictionary) this is just me.. I wouldn't want it...for the scripture states it hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God....If I had wealth... I wouldn't even know how to act....LOL!!! I thank God for just giving me what and I need.... But If my ways please the Lord No good thing he will with hold from me.... So right now.... I thank God for what I have..... I can understand that everyones desires, lifestyle and believe systems are different but I have to admit this mindset tends to bother me. We should thank GOD for providing our needs. However we should also understand that it is also God desire that we be blessed even to the point of being blessed beyond measure. This is one of the way that GOD will extend His mercy and His provision to the needy through HIS stewards. However if HIS stewards have issue with Wealth and Finances then we can be a hinderance to what GOD wants to accomplish in the earth. The advancement of the Gospel will requite money.. Bibles coast money.. Missionary trips cost money, Tv programs cost money... And beyond that.. Feeding the Hungry costs money. Clothing the naked costs money. Providing Homes for the Homeless costs money. Medicine for the sick costs money.... Thats what the abundance is for. Not to lavish it one ourselves but to be a BLESSING to others... |
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Post by MinLisa on Aug 17, 2009 12:45:30 GMT -5
hmmmm Transfer of Wealth...Wealth meaning having an abundance of valuable material possessions or resources (per dictionary) this is just me.. I wouldn't want it...for the scripture states it hard for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God....If I had wealth... I wouldn't even know how to act....LOL!!! I thank God for just giving me what and I need.... But If my ways please the Lord No good thing he will with hold from me.... So right now.... I thank God for what I have..... I can understand that everyones desires, lifestyle and believe systems are different but I have to admit this mindset tends to bother me. We should thank GOD for providing our needs. However we should also understand that it is also God desire that we be blessed even to the point of being blessed beyond measure. This is one of the way that GOD will extend His mercy and His provision to the needy through HIS stewards. However if HIS stewards have issue with Wealth and Finances then we can be a hinderance to what GOD wants to accomplish in the earth. The advancement of the Gospel will requite money.. Bibles coast money.. Missionary trips cost money, Tv programs cost money... And beyond that.. Feeding the Hungry costs money. Clothing the naked costs money. Providing Homes for the Homeless costs money. Medicine for the sick costs money.... Thats what the abundance is for. Not to lavish it one ourselves but to be a BLESSING to others... Giant I do understand what you saying God bless people in order for them to bless other...However which God has done that over and over for my family where I was able to bless other I really thank God... By no mean I'm knocking what scripture states or try to put a limited on what God can Do... But as for Me.. ..I just wouldn't know how to act if I came into to Millons...LOL!!! ...(fiqure of speech) hope u understand what I'm saying... I know blessings is more Money But that's the first thing come to some of our mind when we talk about wealth/ Blessing... of the Lord..... |
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 17, 2009 12:58:30 GMT -5
It's a little hard to admit, but we could really do more with what God has already blessed us with if we truly wanted to.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 17, 2009 13:30:31 GMT -5
Min Lisa.. I agree 100% that all blessings are not wealth. However we also cannot dispute that fact that one of the ways GOD desires to bless us is with wealth. There are numerous scriptures that point to this.
Now I would also like to say that not everyone will be in that position where they will be and end time financier either, so everyone will not be rolling in dough so to speak.
But at the same time I dont believe we should be willing to reject ANYTHING that the Lord would have for us, even if it might be something we might be a little uncomfortable with.
MinLisa I see you say that you wouldnt know what to do if you came into milions and I cant agree with you.. of COURSE you would know what to do.. You would ask the LORD what do to do !!!!
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 17, 2009 14:04:12 GMT -5
I believe in material blessings, even those involving money. But I still have yet to see any type of scriptural justification for this doctrine. Maybe I'll do some digging online and see what I come up with from those who promote such a teaching.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 17, 2009 15:04:28 GMT -5
I believe in material blessings, even those involving money. But I still have yet to see any type of scriptural justification for this doctrine. Maybe I'll do some digging online and see what I come up with from those who promote such a teaching. I think thats what best.. search the scriptures for yourself and allow the Word of God to minister to your spirit. |
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