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Post by krazeeboi on Oct 4, 2006 0:49:22 GMT -5
Do NOT push the flashing red button!!!
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Post by Rachel2 on Oct 4, 2006 9:51:47 GMT -5
Rachel don't duck and hide if that's how you feel; you expressing your feelings can help someone. I do remember the old BB and the JBM BB as well, and I can to those boards as a place of refuge for me; as I was going through a difficult time and the members on the BB helped me alot. I was able to express myself, grow in Christ and identify some strongholds in my life that needed to be broken. Thanks Livinganewlife....
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 4, 2006 12:48:24 GMT -5
Also, Jesus is very rarely exhaulted on this board, and we can't ever get a good bible study going. I visit other boards and they seem to thrive because God is glorified and Jesus is exaulted. Does this mean that God and Jesus is spoken of in every topic - no of course not, but in all Jesus is exaulted. Personally, this is the reason I frequent other boards and rarely come here. When I was a member of Juanita Bynum's board, although I didn't agree with the moderators at times, what kept me coming back was that Jesus/God was being exaulted, there was bible study and prayer. Also there was a true spirit of concern for everybody, not just those in your "clique" or ones who agreed with you. Speaking as someone who has had many difficulties in the church over the past few years, these types of forums have helped me stay in the faith. I am a member of one particular board where people tirelessly labored with me through prayer and counseling until the Lord healed and delivered me from all sorts of spiritual wounds and baggage. So I know that the true power of God does function on these boards, but HE must be exaulted. Not tryin to step on any toes, just giving my humble opinion. Whether the board should be shut down or not, I don't know, but I do think that more time could be spent exaulting Jesus/God in this place. Now I guess I better duck and run! P.S... It seems to me there are too many forums on this board and that could be a contributing factor to the dry season. There are too many things to choose from. If I come here in pain seeking help, I don't want to have to look through 10 or 15 forums trying to figure out where to post my S.O.S..... Sometimes less is more. These truly are the last days and people are looking for help, hope and relief from their troubles. They come here looking for JESUS, not religious doctrine or the most talked about news events. Afterall, isn't this place called JB's House of Refuge? Now I'm really gone duck and run!!!! I was a JBM moderator, and there was a difference. but in all honestly we shouldn't try to compare this board with the JBM BB. There is no comparison. And I don't mean that in a bad way. A unique purpose. On the JBM board, certain topics that were added on this board, would've been closed up and shut down a long time ago. We had instructions that anything that went against the basic teachings of the church, as well as anything that went against the teachings of Juanita Bynum, it wouldn't be allowed. People had problems with that, but that didn't stop them from discussing whatever other topic placed. And that didn't stop us from shutting them down. This board gives us the liberty to discuss what we want and choose. I don't see a problem with that, but I do caution alot of topics. I don't know what topic has caused the board members to flee, but I think its more of people are unavailble due to this time of year, a change in the season has occurred. When people come back and have time to sit back and enjoy the board. I am sure they want to see it still standing. This is the house of refuge. Its not JBM. Let it be unique in its own way. Also, I can count many forums and topics where Jesus is being lifted up. You can start with the music room.
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Post by Beck on Oct 4, 2006 14:29:43 GMT -5
Excellent post sister Jasmine... Im glad you pointed it out and not me... this forum is what it is, and shouldnt be compared to any other... for a LONG time I have had issues with some of the "different" topics that were discussed,but through much prayer I have learned how to respect other people's views concerning Christ and learn how to "just pray" about it. Yeah at times I would just say.. "wow" and the stuff discussed or how people post,feelings, expresions were treated, but I still considered the board to be profitable for me and my walk. I have made MANY friends because of this board, and I think it would not be in the best interest for the PEOPLE to shut it down.. Yeah a few things could be done different, but then again who on this board can claim to be perfect in every way?? If we want more Jesus topics then start them, If we want more bible class lessons put them up, if we want more devotionals...put them up, so we all can enjoy!
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 4, 2006 15:08:59 GMT -5
I wish i can show you guys the NUMBER of PM I have received just YESTERDAY and times past. People have NOT left because they are busy, they left because of the bb itself. I asked them to stay, they said NO! Oh well.
Jesus topics were started, ignored and then deleted when I asked for a clean up. Sorry but true. Nobody is trying to imply that anyone is perfect and to even state such is missing what people are trying to say. When topics are put up - bible studies, devotions, Jesus etc. you get minimal participation. Put up a subject about head coverings, wearing pants, etc. people participate but then the board dies.
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 4, 2006 18:24:52 GMT -5
I have not been on the bb because of my work schedule...ot went from 5 hrs to 10 hrs per week. In the last week and half alone I have been in church listening to Myles Munroe.
ASWSOY..if you don't mind telling us and it's won't cause any conflict. Can you please tell us why most have left the board ?
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 5, 2006 6:25:07 GMT -5
I have not been on the bb because of my work schedule...ot went from 5 hrs to 10 hrs per week. In the last week and half alone I have been in church listening to Myles Munroe. ASWSOY..if you don't mind telling us and it's won't cause any conflict. Can you please tell us why most have left the board ? LOL, stillfocused, of course it will cause conflict! However, alot of it has been covered already in the posts. Although, I agree that you cannot compare one board with another - there should be one common theme among any Christian board and that is Jesus Christ. Hopefully, the ones that I have been communicating via PM and/or E-mail will come and tell us themselves why they left. I am glad that some have come on the board to express their concerns, the question now is: What can we do to make it better?HOUSE OF REFUGEIf this is truly to be a place of protection, shelter, a place to find security - shouldn't we be uplifting Jesus Christ. It is not as simple as "just start more bible studies, devotions or just talk about Jesus more". Jesus is MORE than that! It saddens me that there are people who feel that they can find NO point of coming here. Every place isn't for everyone but there should be something that they can find in common with other Christians. Yes, we are all different, with different ideas, personalities etc - but so were those of the bible. The Apostle Paul knew this and still said that we should all speak the same thing, be of one mind, one faith, one baptism etc. But we cannot even agree on that. We have to condemn people to hell because they have been divorced and remarried; because they were baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost instead of the name of Jesus. Jesus, Himself, came against the pharisees for reasons such as these. So my fellow brothers and sisters, where do we go from here?
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 5, 2006 7:04:29 GMT -5
Most topics will tend to cause conflict because everyone's teachings are different. Additionally, there are some "types" of topics that are easier to discuss by all versus by a few. What we should just learn to (and continue to) do is respect that people will have differences of opinions and not take it personal. Many times, issues come when people take things personal.
Most know that my teachings are very strict. Have I always had these strict views? No. As a matter of fact, I use to always argue most of my "now" views from the other side on many different boards.
People that I talk to like the fact that they can vent here about things that they've been dealing with, ie a place of refuge. At least that is what it can be as long as we understand that we won't agree on everything. Using the example(s) above: a person should be entitled to their views on divorce or baptism. Whether or not one agrees shouldn't mean that the one voice needs to be "shut" and only the one persons views should be heard. Whether one says it's a salvation issue or not. Just be respectful and just understand that not everyone will agree.... (However, I think that sometimes in being so passionate about a topic, viewers take what one person said the wrong way.)
Let's just keep things going and whatever God desires will come to past one way or another.
Main point: Don't take things personal and it will cause discussions to go much smoother. :-D
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Post by Beck on Oct 5, 2006 8:29:10 GMT -5
I would dare to say that the board is as good as those who run it. people like myself can only post topics that I want to, I have no say over what gets deleted or changed. ASWSOY, nikkol,kanyon,keita,beulah...What can the Mods do, or what have they done to stop the downslide of things that seems to burden the board so much? If there is division among you all, then maybe that needs to be worked out first so that the board can be cared for the way you desire it. Maybe some people dont need to be mods if they are meeting the "standard" of the board... Thats something that you guys can work out if you havent already.
ASWSOY, Maybe the clean up was in the wrong area??? I remember the board used to have a very good bible lessons on it, as a matter of fact I put up a few, but that was before the "mo" issue came up. Since then the bible lesson page has been kinda left alone, and it was broken down to much... As far as jesus topics.. what kinda jesus topics were posted that didnt bring in a difference of opinion because personal views? I happens on every board, and it will continue to happen because everyone is different. One thing I remember when I first started posting here was something that kanyon said when I was responding to a thread about Genesis 1:27 "let us make man" because im not trinitarian My views differed from GDD, and a few others, and kanyon came in and applauded everyones views and asked us to remain respectful in our differences... THAT helped. If we can respect each others views without the sarcasm and other little jabs, then maybe the board would be more profitable to everyone. If they want to talk about head coverings, tongues, baptism, grace and faith, sanctification.. let them. just as long as they dont get on the board and say that Jesus is just a prophet and he is the brother of Micheal and married mary and had kids in the united states a few years later and started a real estate company.. we should all be good...
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Post by livinganewlife on Oct 5, 2006 8:39:05 GMT -5
We Have some of the GREATEST preachers, teachers, missionaries and pupils right here on the jbrefugees BB ......
If we would keep in mind that we ALL are teachers, and most of all PUPILS and can learn from each other!!!!!
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Post by keita on Oct 5, 2006 10:02:19 GMT -5
ASWSOY, nikkol,kanyon,keita,beulah...What can the Mods do, or what have they done to stop the downslide of things that seems to burden the board so much? Imho, one of the strengths of this board is that "moderating" (at least in the most traditional "refereeing" sense) of posts and threads has rarely seemed necessary. Maybe you see that differently? I'm here to serve, so if you do, then I would ask what you (general) would have or suggest "the Mods do to stop the downslide of things that seems to burden the board so much?" And while we're on the subject, speaking as a mod, I'm often concerned that the title of moderator sort of implies or adds an unwanted authority to my posts when I (as I am most of the time) am actually speaking member to member(s). In other words, can folks tell the difference and does it impact how they respond?
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 5, 2006 10:06:22 GMT -5
Most topics will tend to cause conflict because everyone's teachings are different. If this is so that "MOST" will be different because of "different teachings" yet we have one bible then our problem is deeper than I originally thought! I don't think it is the quantity but the quality! I will say that "some" times not "many" that people take an issue on the personal side. It all depends on how one come off. It is safer to NOT push denominational beliefs on another. IMO, the problem isn't whether or not we agree. Most people don't like the fact that our discussions don't uplift Jesus Christ. What if God is saying to move on? How will that be determined? I take it very personal if Jesus is not being exaulted and God is not being glorified. Again, I don't think the issue is about someone taking a post too personal. Sure we may have that issue from time to time but it is not THE issue.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 5, 2006 10:12:59 GMT -5
I would dare to say that the board is as good as those who run it. Brother, you have said a mouthful here! Unfortunately, neither do I! I have made some suggestions and those suggestions ..... well let's just say was taken a bit too far. I desire a change but is it worth it at this point? I don't beliee there is any division amongst the mods. At least none that I know of. I could be wrong. I made a suggestion to clean up the board a bit and to consolidate some of the areas because there were so much going on. Changes were made by an Admin and when I questioned it, it was too late to reverse it because it was already deleted. True!
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Post by Beck on Oct 5, 2006 10:14:48 GMT -5
ASWSOY, nikkol,kanyon,keita,beulah...What can the Mods do, or what have they done to stop the downslide of things that seems to burden the board so much? Imho, one of the strengths of this board is that "moderating" (at least in the most traditional "refereeing" sense) of posts and threads has rarely seemed necessary. Maybe you see that differently? I'm here to serve, so if you do, then I would ask what you would have or suggest "the Mods do to stop the downslide of things that seems to burden the board so much?" While we're on the subject, speaking as a mod, I'm often concerned that the title of moderator sort of implies or adds an unwanted authority to my posts when I (as I am most of the time) am actually speaking member to member(s). In other words, can folks tell the difference and does it impact how they respond? I said what I said because one of the remarks that the board has lost its "christian feel", love and respect for people and their concerns. Also because it was brought out that Jesus topics go without attention, but other things such as head coverings get all the attention. If thats the case.. I believe the "regular" members have no control over the move of the board, but that burdon would fall on the mods, who have accepted that responisibilty cheerfully. I know you guys probably discusss things on the mod section, Im sure someone had to have noticed if there is a lack of jesus threads.. maybe one of the mods could have changed the tone and the direction if that was the case. I personally can tell the difference, when you guys are posting.. I never view you guys any differently than the next person, but I do respect the fact that you have the ability to keep things in order just in case something goes a bit off. I can only do my part sister keita.. I will continue to post on the board as long as its up... If it gets shut down I will just post on my board.. LOL.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 5, 2006 10:17:43 GMT -5
Be back later
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