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Post by keita on May 16, 2006 18:08:29 GMT -5
Did you know that in the world there are over 30,000 different denominations of Christianity? Thirty thousand of them! And they all have different traditions, different rituals, different articles of faith, different creeds, different church governments. And while in the ecumenical realm and in terms of publicity for the world they try to maintain a semblance of unity, believe me, when you go into each of them they're violently different and they will not have very much to do with each other, apart from PR. But the various different denominations of Christianity are very different from each other...
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Post by livinganewlife on May 17, 2006 10:18:38 GMT -5
I wonder what's gonna happen to people when we get to Heaven with all these 30,000 different thoughts, ideas and doctrines? ? We don't and won't affiliate with each other because you believe in speaking in tongues and I don't; you believe in worshiping on Saturday and I don't............ Lawd help us: I know the BIBLE is RIGHT and somebody is WRONG!!!!!
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Post by Rachel2 on May 17, 2006 12:36:29 GMT -5
AND what about the chruches that belong to the same Christian denomination, yet they don't come together or encourage their members to fellowship with each other until it's Conference or Convention time......once or twice a year.
Of course, at those times they collect membership dues and monies for other things, so fellowshipping is encouraged at these times.
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Post by Nikkol on May 17, 2006 12:57:17 GMT -5
KEITA: I didn't know that, but it does make sense. It's because of this that it is so important to get back to basics and make sure that the foundation is sturdy and as long as the foundation is good, as long as Jesus is still the center, what one builds upon on that won't be in error.
LANL: True, the Bible is right and therefore someone has to be wrong. There will be no "problems" in New Jerusalem. I thik that most of us will be happy to be at peace. I do believe that the true body of Christ (no just church goers) are able to affiliate with those who are holding fast to what the Bible teaches.... that's what counts
Rachel: I believe that is because most ministries have to deal with ministering in their particular area that God has placed them in. I don't think that it is necessarily a bad thing but if you have a few churches and they have service on the same day, it's more difficult to fellowship. Additionally, each ministry, although we are ONE, have different assignments and it's important to be on post.
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Post by Jasmine on May 17, 2006 13:31:17 GMT -5
Also, the bible doesn't state that you cannot make a doctrine. It says For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law.
So essentially Doctrine is Good. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 1 titus 4:16
So many doctrine has been built upon those basis.
Understandbly there are many doctrine that are not sound, and the bible warns us that the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
which is why we who Hear and know his voice, are exhorted to study to show ourselves approved, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
because, If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
Alot of what we call "rightly dividing" aint that at all. So in all things we have to becareful, and weight those things that truly matter. I personally don't care what denomination you hold, I don't even care about the non-denominations. We can disagree about many things pertaining to denominational beliefs but none of that matters. What matters is that you have a personal relationship with Jesus, and what you are doing for the Kingdom.
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Post by MsKayLander on May 17, 2006 14:00:23 GMT -5
Girl, you betta PREACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Post by kanyon on May 17, 2006 14:19:50 GMT -5
Also, the bible doesn't state that you cannot make a doctrine. It says For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law. So essentially Doctrine is Good. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousnessTake heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. 1 titus 4:16 So many doctrine has been built upon those basis. Understandbly there are many doctrine that are not sound, and the bible warns us that the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; which is why we who Hear and know his voice, are exhorted to study to show ourselves approved, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; because, If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself. Alot of what we call "rightly dividing" aint that at all. So in all things we have to becareful, and weight those things that truly matter. I personally don't care what denomination you hold, I don't even care about the non-denominations. We can disagree about many things pertaining to denominational beliefs but none of that matters. What matters is that you have a personal relationship with Jesus, and what you are doing for the Kingdom. That was a home run!! You go girl!! ;D
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Post by Jasmine on May 17, 2006 14:58:38 GMT -5
I just felt that one really strong in my spirit.
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Post by krazeeboi on May 17, 2006 15:05:08 GMT -5
Great words Sis. Jasmine.
I can't stand it when denominations/organizations split over petty stuff, like positions and whether or not women can wear red dresses and white pantyhose...the stupidest things.
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Post by MsKayLander on May 17, 2006 15:30:03 GMT -5
Great words Sis. Jasmine. I can't stand it when denominations/organizations split over petty stuff, like positions and whether or not women can wear red dresses and white pantyhose...the stupidest things. I'd split too if someone wore a red dress w/white pantyhose!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Jasmine on May 17, 2006 16:02:48 GMT -5
lol MissKay...but i feel you on that.
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Post by Beulah5 on May 18, 2006 11:40:24 GMT -5
I find it interesting that many denominational splits can be classed in mainly 2 groups even though that is not exhaustive: God raises someone up with a particular message or aspect of the gospel ie justification or whatever. Man dies and followers just stick to that and identify themselves by ridiculous names like: holiness so and so Second group: folks seize an aspect of God ie faith or prosperity and then that becomes their life and they never move beyond those aspects. Folks make idols out of faith, prosperity, holiness but although all these are attributes of God they are not God Himself. Christ is typified in the bible as the land of canaan flowing with all sorts of things. To relegade one's enjoyment to only an attribute of the glorious multi sided wisdom of God that He is is truly tragic which is what many denominations do-no wonder we get bored and dried up. My God is bigger than that when i begin to see Him in that light i never dry up nor get thirsty because every morning He is new again as Lamentations says It comes down to the same
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Post by ybrown on May 19, 2006 17:22:01 GMT -5
Thinking about this, what is worrisome about all of these denominations is that each one has created their own image of God. The worst thing is that the laity sitting in the pews is trying to model themselves into the half-baked images of the God that is being preached, which for most Christians, is not the true God that is spoken of in the Bible.
A lot of unbelievers don't know what Jesus or God look like because we're projecting too many faces and every one of them look like us and not like Him.
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Post by Beulah5 on May 20, 2006 13:05:15 GMT -5
Amen- the worrying thing is that people actually think that Christ can be divided up. When we actually realise that He is a whole loaf and not breadcrumbs that we can pick and choose then maybe things will start changing -but that is very unlikely. Many denominations are based on nothing but the pride of man. If one has to cling to some sort of denominational id in the first place then there is a problem-all that matters is that Christ is all and in all
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Post by G3 on May 22, 2006 10:18:46 GMT -5
That is why in our "mainstream gatherings" there is a display of the "form of godliness" but no power. A lot of demonstrations of forms and theathrics with the "absents of His presence". Ichabod!
The Godhead has moved out of mainstream churches and denominations and is making His abode with a "Remnant People" who are defying tradition, loyalties, and families. This is a pruning of a "fruit bearing branch" and that whats cut away, in most cases is not sin, but hinderances and weights that so easily besets us. And the cutting away is very painful with the end results is more fruits with "better quality".
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