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Post by lanl ns on Feb 3, 2006 17:35:21 GMT -5
Are speaking in unknown tongues for the modern day church or did tongues end with the Apostles?
People who speak in tongues are they being Carnal (repeating what Momma nem did) or are they Truly anointed by God?
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Post by krazeeboi on Feb 3, 2006 22:10:45 GMT -5
Speaking in tongues did not end with the death of the Apostles.
Some who speak in tongues today are indeed carnal, and some who do are really anointed.
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Post by ElderBeck NSI on Feb 4, 2006 21:16:33 GMT -5
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues" Are we all still believing?  ? |
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Post by lanl ns on Feb 5, 2006 10:06:27 GMT -5
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues" Are we all still believing? ? Does that scripture means a "new" language such as tone change from offensive language to the language of Christ.......................or does it mean speak with unknown tongues such as "icamoshooonda"? Also, is it written that Jesus ever spoke in tongues? |
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Post by Bee on Feb 5, 2006 10:43:11 GMT -5
lanl what is the point of ur questioning?
The word is clear that tongues are a gift given by the Lord to His church.
I mean the question: did Jesus speak in tongues is also not really relevant as there are many things that we do and see as believers that He Himself did not do but is still biblical.
Jesus never wrote a sermon/ bible but we accept the word of God as it is......
Tongues is a spiritual language, the word says that whoever speaks to God in tongues speaketh mysteries so it is not a topic that can be broken down into 2.4 like most spiritual things.....
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Post by stillfocused on Feb 5, 2006 12:59:59 GMT -5
In all honesty these questions are ones that cross denominational lines...Baptist..don't believe they are for today, and Penecostal..beieve they are for today, and etc. Growing up as in the Baptist church..I heard these very statements. And to me they are not debateable because I know what the word of says about them. It's the very nature of comments and questions like the statements these that keep the body of Christ divided and of no effect to unbelievers. They are watching our lives, our words, our actions, and etc..and if they see us arguing and debating whether tongues are for today, whether we speak in tongues at the church we attend, and etc..they don't care they just want to know how Christ is moving in your life.
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Post by lanl ns on Feb 5, 2006 21:03:52 GMT -5
thinking about it the questions may cross denominational lines, as i had a conversation with someone not to long ago and the question was brought for were tongues for today or did they end with the Apostles. Now the person I was talking with did not say that tongues didn't exist he just mentioned that tongues were used for a specific purpose and that the purpose had been fulfilled, such as the day of pentecost and tongues were a sign to the non believers as those who were filled did not speak in unknown tongues, they spoke in another tongue but a tongue that was understandable to those who spoke that particular language........ throwing out questions for dialog Bee  |
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Post by stillfocused on Feb 5, 2006 23:12:15 GMT -5
Even though he didn't say that they don't exist..his statement in saying that the purpose for tongues had been fulfilled..is clearly saying that he doesn't believe in tongues. He has part of the truth..because tongues are a sign for unbelievers..go to I Cor. 14 and that on the day of Penecost there were those there who heard other nationalities speaking their language..read Acts 2. Yet, because he only chose to believe a part of the truth..he's neglecting these words spoken by Jesus himself found in Mark 16:17.. And these signs shall follow those that believe. In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and they if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover.
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Post by jasmine nsi on Feb 6, 2006 0:39:36 GMT -5
lanl ns wrote
I Corinthians 12:5-11
5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
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Post by elderbeck NSI on Feb 6, 2006 11:21:10 GMT -5
Even though he didn't say that they don't exist..his statement in saying that the purpose for tongues had been fulfilled..is clearly saying that he doesn't believe in tongues. He has part of the truth..because tongues are a sign for unbelievers..go to I Cor. 14 and that on the day of Penecost there were those there who heard other nationalities speaking their language..read Acts 2. Yet, because he only chose to believe a part of the truth..he's neglecting these words spoken by Jesus himself found in Mark 16:17.. And these signs shall follow those that believe. In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and they if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick and they will recover. Agreed! ... For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear" (Isaiah 28:11-12). |
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Post by GiantsDODie ns on Feb 6, 2006 12:02:30 GMT -5
There are more reasons for speaking in tongues than Acts 2
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Post by Jasmine on Feb 6, 2006 14:55:57 GMT -5
Amen Giants. Here's a couple of reasons that I found through the internet. While I myself can share through personal experience, here is a partial list.
Spiritual Edification
1 Corinthians 14:4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself . . .
Keeps prayers in line with God's will
Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Builds up our faith
Jude 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost.
Brings the tongue under subjection.
James 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison
This is only a portion of the benefits of speaking in tongues.
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Post by Grace on Feb 6, 2006 16:07:04 GMT -5
The Jude 1:20 says praying in the spirit building up your most holy faith. Tongues are relavent today as they were in the times of the apostles.
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Post by stillfocused1 on Feb 6, 2006 20:27:56 GMT -5
Giants, agreed !! Yet, I mentioned Acts 2 because the portion of scripture that this man made mention of can be found there. Agreed, that there are many reasons for speaking in tongues..various reasons. I wasn't able to complete my post because my phone rung and I kicked off the internet. We must remember that many churches don't teach this and if it is taught many don't receive it; because it's something " new and strange " to them. And for some; the comment "it don't take all of that" applies to the gift on tongues, interpretation, and speaking in tongues..
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Post by stillfocused on Feb 6, 2006 20:45:12 GMT -5
Jasmine wrote:
1) Sis, I can agree with everything else; except this one. Because I know people who speak in tongues and will curse you in the next breath. Can "Bababasha" with the best of the them; yet, stand in your face and lie; and throw in a seed of discord all in one breath. Praying the tongues one minute and mad and using manipulation to get a "word" while in disobedience. One these persons called me a month, ago and I would not call her back.
2) I know of a woman who filled with Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, yet, out in the floor getting delivered her tongues were angry and forceful..only a person who could interpret tongues ..was able to hear and ask this woman a question that would begin the inner healing of her soul...that woman was me !!
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