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Post by auneeqsol on Aug 24, 2007 9:55:52 GMT -5
It would have been to everyone's benefit if they had decided to stay our of the lime light for a few years and really worked on their marriage in private rather than promoting themselves as an example. Lord , oh Lord have mercy on us!!! Yes this is a serious blow to the body of Christ....  I do understand ppl have their times of weakness or frustration or anger, but to display such in public causes us to suffer loss. We all have our "private time" in which we have to cry out to the Lord for "thoughts", ways, feelings, episodes, actions, or words that we have embraced or entertained that we shouldnt have, (especially those of us who are leaders) but thats the thing about it, they are private and so in dealing with them or going through a process of deliverance, or whatever you may deem it , there should be no attention called to these issues by the world. It's bad enough, that the church world has to witness this whole ordeal that went on, but the biggest disappointment is that the world has witnessed it. No, no one is perfect, but I do agree with what Kitty said in the quote above, humility is key in effective ministry that is totally pleasing to the Lord. Sometimes we can take who we are (title wise) and build an empire on that, that was not ordained by God. Given both of their pasts with their marriages, they should have kept a low profile and just continued on in ministry as they were after they got married, instead of trying to be spokespersons on how to love in marriage. That's another thing that makes the blow almost a knock out. But nevertheless God is still on the throne and still in control of all things. And he will do whatever he wills. I love them both as brother and sister in Christ and I will pray that God's perfect will be done, but it hurts though, that they were caught slippin like that. Dont get me wrong no one is perfect and we all go through, but it does hurt when you're caught with your pants down. As the body of Christ we must keep in mind that we are on display at all times, and we do have to carry our cross and deny ourselves. Its not an easy journey I tell ya, but its one we have to make. May God give all of us the strength to endure..... |
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Post by livinganewlife on Aug 24, 2007 10:54:49 GMT -5
As i have stated before; I do not understand these people who have been married for only two weeks with a track record of divorces (between the two of them) can become experts on marital relationships….
If it wasn’t for all the attention through the teach me how to love you conferences and tapes no one would have ever been surprised at this incident… we would have said o lord help her and move on....
Another thing I am amazed that after all that shouting and holy ghost moving through that wedding ceremony that this is what it has come down too….
People of God we need to be really really serious about how we are representing God and how are actions and antics are making God look…….I say this all the time the church world and the people in the church are making God look like he is schizophrenic and our God is not a schizoid…………..
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Post by MinLisa on Aug 24, 2007 12:26:58 GMT -5
Lord Have mercy!!! what is going on with leadership!!
this just don't sound like all of the sudden he just start beating on her that one time...Sometime we just don't know what really goes on behind closed doors.
Still praying
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Post by anointedteacher on Aug 24, 2007 13:35:32 GMT -5
Lord Have mercy!!! what is going on with leadership!! this just don't sound like all of the sudden he just start beating on her that one time...Sometime we just don't know what really goes on behind closed doors. Still praying I think it been going on for a while, that's why they were separated and met in a public place. The teach me to love conference was for them... that's why she didn't minister, but she set and received. AT |
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 24, 2007 15:03:34 GMT -5
Juanita spoke during the TMTL conferences. And Wesley surely did. He needed to sit and receive as well.
Auneeqsol, I second everything you said 100%.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 24, 2007 17:46:20 GMT -5
Hello Guys, This situation has made me ponder a question I have been think about off and on for years. Now i think Juanita has had a powerful message for single women for years... I'm sure that Bishop Weeks has had some positive impact as well before becoming married to Juanita. So let's just say that before they joined together both of them have positive positions in ministry. Now I know that they "claim" that God brought them together... But is it possible that God didn't have a hand in them deciding to get married? Is it possible that they were never meant to have a joint ministry? Especially one that was focused on marriage? Is it more likely that they got together based on their free will in the first place? The reason I ask is because their marriage doesn't look like what I would expect of a union created by God. And look what the results have been... A lot of damage, not just to themselves but to the body of Christ. I mean seriously... If these two claim that God supernaturally placed them together... then what kind of message will that send to others about marriage? Will it help for other Christians to believe that God wants to to be in situations that are harmful? And yes... I too was one of the people who questioned the validity of their marriage in the first place. For example... I do believe that Juanita's husband was cheating on her. But what about Weeks' exwife? Did she commit adultry? or did he claim that she just walked away as an unbeliever? Then there was that strangeness about when their engagement was revealed. During that time we were all still about on the JBM message board. I recall the moderators going through great lengths to remove any post that stated her involvement with Weeks. Stating that it was rumors... when it ended up being the truth. Why? Could it have been possible that Weeks divorce wasn't final before he and Juanita got involved? Now i know many people will say that maybe these aren't questions that we should discuss. But I personally feel compelled to do so because they have declared that they were put together by God and not themselves. When those are not Christian come and ask about this... What should I say? So tell me Guys... Do you think they were really placed together by God? Kitty In all honesty.... NOPE... never did... Bottom Line I watched their whole discourse on TBN when the announced it and I NEVER heard one of them say... We prayed... God said.... God revealed... Not ONCE.... |
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 24, 2007 17:50:52 GMT -5
Giants..was that night that it was announced that they were married
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 24, 2007 17:52:24 GMT -5
Sometimes that was not said publicly...it in the Teach How To Love Me book.
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 24, 2007 18:20:11 GMT -5
I am reading some of ya'll statements and I just don't agree.
Every marriage has some type of issue that they face along the way. Trials and Tribulations whether allowed by God, or caused by ourselves, due to our own flesh, does not mean that this is not a union that GOD has joined together.
Sometimes we ride the high horse way to much, because while our marriages may not be dealing with Abuse, we got something that keeps us on our knees praying.
Some of the post are borderline at saying, we knew this was coming? and thats what they get. I mean have mercy, show some sympatht, for BOTH parties involved.
You never know what you are capable of until you are faced with it. IN my opinion a man should never ever hit a woman. I don't care what she does, spit, hit, punch, you should never hit with the intent to harm. Does that excuse the woman, of course not, obviously anger management should be sought.
But we don't know what provoked him. All we know is that the DEVIL caused him to be double-minded, and this man became unstable in his ways.
My motto has and will always be, if a newly married couple can make it through the first 5 years, you pretty much can take on what ever comes your way. They were just entering into their 6th year, and who knows why they were separating in the first place.
Its quite obvious that time and communication could definitely play a part.
Now I agree with many concerning "Teach me how to love you". You cant be married 2 minutes and proclaim to be an expert on marriage.
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Post by Jasmine on Aug 24, 2007 18:31:14 GMT -5
Also i wanted to add.
I know some couples who have really loving and healthy marriages, except they lack a relationship with God. They know how to respect each other, they know how to communicate, spend time with one another and so forth. YEt they do not have a personal relationship with God. Once they get there, they will be able to make a lasting mark.
Why this was posted. I positive they didn't seek God regarding who to marry. But their relationship is filled with love, and will only be magnified when they get to know Jesus.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 24, 2007 21:07:49 GMT -5
Again.. I watched what they said on TBN and I was like huh  |
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 24, 2007 22:02:36 GMT -5
That's interesting. While it is my personal opinion that we have a bit of liberty when it comes to selecting a mate, there's no way I would never pray and seek God's guidance and direction when I did settle on a young lady that I thought was suitable. That would be stupid. And to be high profile in ministry like that, you'd think that would take center stage.
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Aug 24, 2007 23:52:03 GMT -5
No we can not take sides, but what gives any man the right to strike a woman regardless of the situation. Me, as well as many other women who have been in a abusive marriages know that once you hit you will do it again no matter how many times you say " I'M SORRY" God is in control of the matter and we pray that all will go well for the both of them. Neither should we bad mouth or down either one of them because we are human and we all fall short of His Glory, no one is perfect. And it angrues me to know that some say that she may have cause or provoke it. Typical... God did not create women to be punching bags for no one. atrue
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 25, 2007 8:22:33 GMT -5
Ill say it again. We dont know what happened and I will say what I said again. He had no right to do what he did, however we dont know the cause of what triggered the attack. That doesnt absolve him from blame, but I know for a fact that women can be JUST as abusive as men. I knew a woman who was a pastor who beat her husband up on the regular, even to the point once of knocking him down a flight of stairs.
Abuse is abuse whether it done by males or females and what I am saying is that there may be far more to this sitauation than we realize which is why our best response is to PRAY.
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Post by keita on Aug 25, 2007 13:38:28 GMT -5
Pray indeed!
I watched the Women on the Frontline conference and the strong sense of impending personal/ministry disaster was not only palpable, it was downright painful. I'm talking about the kind of "OMG!!!!" where even if I couldn't stand the sister and thought she deserved every bit of reaping what was sown... praying for her would still have come easy.
Does anybody remember the case of a sister named Marnita Bynum some time back?
But God.
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I do understand ppl have their times of weakness or frustration or anger, but to display such in public causes us to suffer loss.
