Evangelist Bynum attacked by Husband

[Beulah5]

Let us lift them up in prayer. Of all the posts Jasmine's is the one i second.

This is a brother and sister in Christ who are suffering in their marriage and i feel for them just as i would feel for my next door neighbour or my brother and sister.

We do not know the details of their relationship but like Giants i am for neither-no a man should never hit a woman but a woman should also never hit a man. We have all acted in the flesh and are very capable of doing so at any minute.

Now unless this is a regular occurence i do not see why the prayer shd not be that like any other couple that they learn to forgive each other and reconcile because there is no situation that Jesus cannot ressurect. I am sorry but i do not believe that just through one incident that happens in a marriage then all of a sudden then the person is 'not the one'.

Whatever doctrine we hold to regarding mates/spouses and that type of thing as far as i am concerned when u marry someone they become God's choice.

God has used both these people to be a blessing and at this time we should pray for healing and that whatever led to these situations that God will reveal and restore.

Whatever the end is my prayer is both for Weeks and Juanita that they will continue to serve God and do the work of evangelists.

Saints so many people mess up so many times including leaders-some of the vessels that God could still be using have stopped ministry because when they messed up there was no grace and mercy. Yes the incident shd not have happened but the fact is it has-do we shun these people or do we pray that something great would come out of this and that God who can turn any situation out will glorify Himself in the end.

That is my prayer because i am still on my journey ....

[giantsdodie]

beulah5 said:

Let us lift them up in prayer. Of all the posts Jasmine's is the one i second.

This is a brother and sister in Christ who are suffering in their marriage and i feel for them just as i would feel for my next door neighbour or my brother and sister.

We do not know the details of their relationship but like Giants i am for neither-no a man should never hit a woman but a woman should also never hit a man. We have all acted in the flesh and are very capable of doing so at any minute.

Now unless this is a regular occurence i do not see why the prayer shd not be that like any other couple that they learn to forgive each other and reconcile because there is no situation that Jesus cannot ressurect. I am sorry but i do not believe that just through one incident that happens in a marriage then all of a sudden then the person is 'not the one'.

Whatever doctrine we hold to regarding mates/spouses and that type of thing as far as i am concerned when u marry someone they become God's choice.

God has used both these people to be a blessing and at this time we should pray for healing and that whatever led to these situations that God will reveal and restore.

Whatever the end is my prayer is both for Weeks and Juanita that they will continue to serve God and do the work of evangelists.

Saints so many people mess up so many times including leaders-some of the vessels that God could still be using have stopped ministry because when they messed up there was no grace and mercy. Yes the incident shd not have happened but the fact is it has-do we shun these people or do we pray that something great would come out of this and that God who can turn any situation out will glorify Himself in the end.

That is my prayer because i am still on my journey ....

agreed

[keita]

I am sorry but i do not believe that just through one incident that happens in a marriage then all of a sudden then the person is 'not the one'.

I think that depends a WHOLE lot on what the "one incident" was. What if that "one incident" results or even could have in the spouse's death?

Because that woman could most certainly have died at the foot of her husband.

But GOD!

I've been gladly praying for her and thanking HIM.

But truthfully, me praying for "Bishop" Weeks hasn't quite, uh, "kicked in" yet. Unless you count the one where I suggested some very bad things happen to him and GOD already forgave me for that.

Now, I admit that part of me sees this as a sister who has, I will confess, um, "physically tussled" a time or two with a full grown angry man. If you don't know, please believe me when I tell you that the brother may indeed have needed to defend himself. And seeing the "after" pictures and medical report, I would say Juanita actually held it down pretty good for the west side.

But I also know that when the man lifted his foot, and where he placed it,...we were into a whole 'nother realm. A place where certainly through Christ, true forgiveness might someday happen for real. Reconciliation, imho and experience, probably ought not.

Yet, here again, I say, but GOD!

as far as i am concerned when u marry someone they become God's choice.

HUH?

[ybrown]

People have taken their eyes off Christ and have put them on other people and things.

Christian leaders fall publicly so that folks can be reminded that Jesus is the one on the throne, not Juanita, not Thomas, not their marriage or any other leader or thing that people tend to exalt or tip onto a pedestal.

Even this week a lot of people got upset and destroyed over hearing about Mother Theresa’s crisis of faith. Why get so upset? She was just like the rest of us. No different. Just a woman going through, desperately in need of hearing from God. That describes all of us. It certainly describes me.

The One on the Throne will never fall. We are being made into His image and until that is complete, the rest of us are subject to falling hard, often, in private and in public, whatever God needs to happen to accomplish His end.

[Beulah5]

Thanks for that word Sister Ybrown. Keita thank you for ur honesty and questions.

When i said that when u marry someone they become God's choice-what i meant by that is that if u marry someone whether u heard an audible voice or a dream or just went in ur own flesh you cannot just get up the next day and without bibliccal/exceptional reasons just decide that you never heard from God and so ala vista.

God expects us to work on our relationships if it be marriage or anything.

My mother has been the main thorn in my life for all the years i have been on this earth now we have been estranged a while now but not after trying every means possible and exhausting everything on this God given planet to try and work at our relationship-even now i bear her no strife it is just not simply healthy for us both to be in relationship but my prayer is that this will not be permanent and that one day Jesus who is able to do all things will break down that wall of separation.

My main point is that in all things the goal should be forgiveness and reconciliation and also the context of the event shd be taken in.

I do not know bishop weeks-but i care for him as a brother in christ who is as much in need of healing as the next person.

Now hitting anyone is a serious problem and if this has been habitual of course get what is necessary to make sure that this is not perpetuated but like yourself i have in the past been known to hit a man or 2 to the point of nearly strangling one boyfriend (thank God for deliverance) i also know what some women are capable of.

That is why i say we do not know the detail. I also care about JB as a sister in Christ and i do believe that she does have a prophetic call however what her call is and what she has become in the last few years is somehow blurry and i remember watching that women on the front line and my heart sinking thinking: is this what it has come to?

However i have also always found her to be a drama queen and also very capable of driving someone nuts- in my honest opinion if we were talking about a butter would not melt in her mouth sweet person it is a different kettle of fish.

Who knows maybe she was the one thumping him throughout the marriage? Not that i am suggesting that she was but who knows which is why i am saying that it is the context of it should a man hit a woman-absolutely definitely not however i will not put it past her either-notice that if the reports are right he got up and left but she followed him into the car park.

My basic point is they are just as bad as each other and the media circus that they have created around their marriage and it is also time someone called them to accountability. However in the midst of all of this are 2 individuals whose marriage is breaking up-real raw feelings and pain are involved here and as a church if we lay their titles aside they are just as human.

I pray that the love of Christ will prevail in this situation and that they will learn to forgive each other and whatever decision they arrive to that it will be done in meekness, humility and love.

BWeeks shd not have thumped his wife, this and that shd not have happened but it has and from my point of view WWJD? The sinner is in need of as much help from God -do we cast off wife beaters, rapists, paedophiles and write them off forever or do we keep calling them into the house of the father who declares that there is room for everyone in His house?

To God be the glory

[krazeeboi]

Sis. Keita, I understand what Sis. Beulah is saying when she says that when you marry someone they become God's choice, and I actually agree. Whether or not that person was "the one," the fact is that marriage is a covenant and once entered into, it needs to be honored as it was made before God. The fact of the matter is that God has sanctioned marriage institutionally, not individually. I consider it somewhat akin to honoring someone who stands in the office/position of pastor, even if he really isn't called to do that. It's because of the position they hold, which has been ordained of God.

I heard from a good friend of mine that he actually heard Juanita state that it is permissable to divorce and remarry someone if you didn't get God's stamp of approval for that person; as a matter of fact, God doesn't even consider you married in the first place if this is the case. Even if she didn't say and believes this, the fact is that there are people out there that believe like that.

The church has just screwed marriage up all around--the Pentecostal church that is. I think I'm going Lutheran or Orthodox or something, y'all are too mystical for me.

[keita]

Thanks y'all!

The concept behind

...when u marry someone they become God's choice

wasn't lost on me at all. I "huh'd" it because I felt the statement itself could be seriously misunderstood and needed the very clarification y'all brought.

I also wanted to ask:

Do you believe reconciliation is always/necessarily God's choice/will for every broken marriage?

Do you believe God ever breaks up a marriage?

SIS YBROWN:

It's great to see you! I've missed your brand of sharpshooting around here.

Interestingly, I heard so much of what you posted very profoundly (prophetically?) spoken by JB herself, about herself, at the Women on the Frontline Conference.

Reading Mother Teresa's writings blessed my socks off, especially in this season of my life and, imho offer some really good ground for breakthrough level discussions on Christian faith. I definitely plan to purchase that book and place it along side Sis Renita Weems' Listening For God .

[krazeeboi]

I do think it's possible where reconciliation of a marriage isn't the route to take and that it could very well be possible that God breaks up a marriage.

[krazeeboi]

Also, interestingly I heard today that Weeks used to also physically abuse his first wife and that he and Juanita started courting/dating before he was actually divorced from his first wife.

[nina2]

Do you believe reconciliation is always/necessarily God's choice/will for every broken marriage?

Do you believe God ever breaks up a marriage?

I don't believe that we can't understand divorce unless we understand better marriage and it's purpose in God.

Imho, it seems that we - general - are under that belief that marriage is about us, a lot in the here and now, and often not thought of/about further than our immediate children's generation, in the future, and our own parents generation, in the past.
And, for what it's worth, I just dont believe that it should be so, especially in the spirit.

When we look at Jesus genealogy, there are some marriages in his bloodline which today, would be hair raisers - if not worst - for most believers nowadays. Yet, all along, in a specific generation, at a specific point in time, in a specific location on earth, and surely from a specific mother, Jesus was to be born and a son given.

For the young women who keep saying "I want my Boaz", think again....

Then again, what were the odds of Boaz and Ruth being married?

She was a Moabite, a race that God has cursed to eventually be completely destroyed by Israel
She was the widow of a Jew
She was a convert in Israel and that was not very well looked upon, especially for a Moabite
etc... etc...
Why did God have to bring a woman like Ruth into the lineage of King David and Jesus? What was really accomplished through the union of Ruth and Boaz?

Then, there is Jacob and Esau, sons of Isaac. Jacob and Esau were twins, grand children of Abraham, beloved of God. However, doesn't God say in Malachi I have loved Jacob and I have hated Esau?
Why? What is it that God hated in Esau all along, even before he was born?

And in case it seems that I forgot where I started from, I believe that we should be more aware of exactly what happens when a couple gets married, in the spiritual realm.

Marriage, according to God, is the only way to bring souls into this world, whether in Christian homes or non Christian homes. God is the giver of all life.

I am very aware of the fact that the Bible says that God hates divorce. I still say that in God's ultimate plan for the world, divorce must have a reason to be, otherwise he would not have made provision for it.

What is broken by a divorce reaches way beyond the divorcing couple, in the past and in the future. Just because we lose track of that past and don't know the future, doesn't mean that God does.....

PS: I certainly don't know everything, and I don't pretend or claim I do. Plus, I would not want to know everything, the day I am through learning, I do believe I have lost my reason for being.
That's just where I am.

[giantsdodie]

I am far more concerned Nina about your last statement

[kanyon]

krazeeboi said:

I do think it's possible where reconciliation of a marriage isn't the route to take and that it could very well be possible that God breaks up a marriage.

It may be that before God, the marriage never was. In our marriage ceremonies, there are two opportunities for either the congregation or the couple to reveal why they should not be lawfully joined together.
Failure to do so, the ceremony state that the marriage is not lawful

Just some more bones to chew on....

[anointedteacher]

I ran into this article....

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It is reported that Weeks left the scene of the attack, according to police. Warrants had been issued for Weeks, who has been charged with one count of aggravated assault and one count of terrorist threats against Bynum.

According to a lawyer for Weeks, the Bishop plans to continue his ministry and to try to reconcile with his wife after the allegations are dealt with, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

"He is extremely sad over the events that have taken place," said Edward Garland, one of the two attorneys representing Weeks. "I think there is hope on his part that the relationship can get past these difficult moments."

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Nothing is impossible with God, but I don't think JBW would consider reconcilation after being choke, kick and stomp, along with terrorist threats.... Being in his present is scary. What he threaten to do to her.... kill her?

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Posted by krazeeboi on Yesterday at 23:16

Also, interestingly I heard today that Weeks used to also physically abuse his first wife and that he and Juanita started courting/dating before he was actually divorced from his first wife.

This is probably not the first time he beaten JBW, they were separated for a reason. The man have a problem and need deliverance. The reason that I am hard on him, is because once you disabled a person ( when he knock her down) you walk way quickly to your car, why kick, stomp and make threating remark.

I question JBW choice of mate, I am pretty sure somebody told her, he not the one. She should have enough wisdom to check out his first wife and listen to the Holy Spirit. This man was broke, he even reported that he was broke and went to his ex-wife for money, she refuse to give it to him. He didn't even pay his child report. He wasn't doing well before he met JBW. He just a messed up book with a nice pretty cover. With all the knowledge, all the wisdom and all the experience she fail for a book with a nice cover.

I pray that God's perfect Will be done in this situation.

AT

[stillfocused]

There are some things about this relationship that we don't know. To post and say some of the things that have been mentioned on this board is not right. No one knows how much money that man had before or during his relationship with JBW. As to say he was broke before they married..I beg to differ. Many changes occurred right before our eyes..and it takes money to do the things that they accomplished in business and in their personal lives.

And no woman I don't care who it is; is going to let a man spend all of her money !!

[anointedteacher]

This was Thomas Week testimony, I can't remember exactly where I read it. He was explaining his situation with his ex-wife and his father or mother I can remember which one told him the marriage is over and he got a divorce. He needed money for his church and was behind in child support. The man had issues and was not totally healed from his previous relationship. His testimony about his first wife was completely one sided, he didn't give details why they were separated and why she refused reconcile.

AT