Post by nina2 on Jan 16, 2009 12:07:37 GMT -5
Just a question:
In John's gospel, we read:
John 10 (King James Version)
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
The scripture he quoted including "ye are gods" is from Psalm 82:
Psalm 82 (King James Version)
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
However, in the Tanach, Psalm 82 reads like this:
Psalms - Chapter 82
1. A song of Asaph. God stands in the congregation of God; in the midst of the judges He will judge.
2. How long will you judge unjustly and favor the wicked forever?
3. Judge the poor and orphan; justify the humble and the impoverished.
4. Release the poor and the needy; save [them] from the hands of [the] wicked.
5. They did not know and they do not understand [that] they will walk in darkness; all the foundations of the earth will totter.
6. I said, "You are angelic creatures, and all of you are angels of the Most High."
7. Indeed, as man, you will die, and as one of the princes, you will fall.
8. Arise, O God, judge the earth, for You inherit all the nations.
So, was Jesus speaking of "angelic creatures" or "gods" and what difference does it make if we use one or the other?
In John's gospel, we read:
John 10 (King James Version)
32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
The scripture he quoted including "ye are gods" is from Psalm 82:
Psalm 82 (King James Version)
1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
However, in the Tanach, Psalm 82 reads like this:
Psalms - Chapter 82
1. A song of Asaph. God stands in the congregation of God; in the midst of the judges He will judge.
2. How long will you judge unjustly and favor the wicked forever?
3. Judge the poor and orphan; justify the humble and the impoverished.
4. Release the poor and the needy; save [them] from the hands of [the] wicked.
5. They did not know and they do not understand [that] they will walk in darkness; all the foundations of the earth will totter.
6. I said, "You are angelic creatures, and all of you are angels of the Most High."
7. Indeed, as man, you will die, and as one of the princes, you will fall.
8. Arise, O God, judge the earth, for You inherit all the nations.
So, was Jesus speaking of "angelic creatures" or "gods" and what difference does it make if we use one or the other?
