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Post by keita on Jul 22, 2005 2:03:00 GMT -5
"How we treat other women is often a reflection of how we see ourselves. If within the private recesses of our own minds and hearts, we are not convinced of our unique God-given beauty and worth, it is difficult to see the beauty and worth of others like us. So chances are that we will act out with cruel thoughts, words, or actions our lack of self-love upon another woman in whose eyes we see our own reflection.
The ideal of sisterhood encourages women to build trust among themseles and work together in seeking ways to solve problems that are unique to us.
Unfortunately, some of us continue to kick the notion of sisterhood to the curb. But it does not have to be that way.
We have a choice."
Stephanie Bibb
Women's Liberation:Jesus Style
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Post by Beulah5 on Jul 22, 2005 4:09:50 GMT -5
Oh what a beautiful topic!!!
Imo be back for this one!
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Post by J13578 on Jul 22, 2005 8:54:03 GMT -5
Thank you, Keita, for opening the door on this topic. If I may, I hope that it won't take the turn of comparing with brotherhood...
I really look forward to this one
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Post by virtue 77 on Jul 22, 2005 14:25:40 GMT -5
So chances are that we will act out with cruel thoughts, words, or actions our lack of self-love upon another woman in whose eyes we see our own reflection. That is true...why do ppl tend to project their (negative) feelings onto others?? |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Jul 25, 2005 15:12:05 GMT -5
"How we treat other women is often a reflection of how we see ourselves. If within the private recesses of our own minds and hearts, we are not convinced of our unique God-given beauty and worth, it is difficult to see the beauty and worth of others like us. So chances are that we will act out with cruel thoughts, words, or actions our lack of self-love upon another woman in whose eyes we see our own reflection. The ideal of sisterhood encourages women to build trust among themseles and work together in seeking ways to solve problems that are unique to us. Unfortunately, some of us continue to kick the notion of sisterhood to the curb. But it does not have to be that way. We have a choice." Stephanie Bibb Women's Liberation:Jesus StyleNow, how did I miss this? Are we going forward with this discussion? |
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Post by this2shallpass on Jul 26, 2005 19:59:37 GMT -5
I believe women are beautiful. The way we carry our selves, our colorful dress, our spirit, our joy, our love, our love for others, the joy we are capable of bringing into the lives of our families and others, our materinal nature, our love for the one we love, our precious love for our children. Our prayer life, our tears shed for the trials of others, our prayers for others, our giving and forgiving nature.
There is nothing I enjoy more than being in the company of my sisters.
Along with the prayer ministry, women's fellowship is the other ministry I have been blessed to serve for several years, in the Church.
Over the years I began to collect sculpture or women; women from all walks of life. To minister to all women. As I look upon the shelf I purchased to house the sculptures of my sisters, I see, my sister from Jamica carrying the basket on her head with one hand on her hips. I see the praise and worshiper dressed in gold top with flowing arms and white skirt, her hands lifted high in praise. I see (one of my favorites) Coretta Scott King in her green suit trimmed in white and one of her famous hats. I see the women sitting in the rocking chair holding her new born child (one of my most costley), I see the bride wipping a tear from her eye, I see then young lady in her long white slip, the mother lacing up her little girls ballet slippers (from my husband); My collection of african sculptures (soul journeys - I only have 4 - the entire collection is about 20. The Thomas Blackshere collection - one named "Talk To The Hand", another named "Oh No She Didn't". The lady in the pink party dress, the queen in her royalty, the black african lady wearing a read wrap with gold jewelry and a large bowel in her lap (from my son - the earrings and necklace hang from her neck and ears); the regal woman dress in a gold evening gown dancing with her husband.
I have collected more than 25 or my sisters from across the world, so far, all representing, to me, the women that we are. The women we minister to, and those that minister to us.
I love my sister, and pray more than anything, that one day we shall see each other in all of or beautiful, colorful, glory - faults and all.
Thank your for this topic.
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Post by virtue 77 on Jul 26, 2005 20:56:56 GMT -5
wow, that seems like an awesome collection!! Thanks for loving on ya sistas!
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Post by this2shallpass on Jul 27, 2005 11:59:33 GMT -5
It is!! And I'm still collecting.
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Post by stillfocused on Jul 27, 2005 13:40:07 GMT -5
Interesting, This2shallpass !! I collect the smaller ones..which when I started collecting them..I found at the The Dollar Tree..and just recently I found out that some these are smaller versions of the Mahogany Princess collection. I have 1 piece from that collection, and another piece from Home Interiors collections..and they truly represent an array of women and men.
My Mom has found some of most beautiful pieces imagined...a young lady and man getting engaged, a family, an African brother with a lion..and a bride with a veil (no groom yet !!)..I don't buy them as often, as family and friends have given them as gifts...oh, I forgot...I have an Angel that has been said to resemble my grandson.beautiful..in a flowing white gown with a lamb at his feet. I started out with 10; but, I am sure I have more than 25 now. That is so awesome !! Thanks for sharing with us..
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Post by living ns on Jul 27, 2005 16:34:34 GMT -5
l There is nothing I enjoy more than being in the company of my sisters. Along with the prayer ministry, women's fellowship is the other ministry I have been blessed to serve for several years, in the Church. Over the years I began to collect sculpture or women; women from all walks of life. To minister to all women. As I look upon the shelf I purchased to house the sculptures of my sisters, I see, my sister from Jamica carrying the basket on her head with one hand on her hips. I see the praise and worshiper dressed in gold top with flowing arms and white skirt, her hands lifted high in praise. I see (one of my favorites) Coretta Scott King in her green suit trimmed in white and one of her famous hats. I see the women sitting in the rocking chair holding her new born child (one of my most costley), I see the bride wipping a tear from her eye, I see then young lady in her long white slip, the mother lacing up her little girls ballet slippers (from my husband); My collection of african sculptures (soul journeys - I only have 4 - the entire collection is about 20. The Thomas Blackshere collection - one named "Talk To The Hand", another named "Oh No She Didn't". The lady in the pink party dress, the queen in her royalty, the black african lady wearing a read wrap with gold jewelry and a large bowel in her lap (from my son - the earrings and necklace hang from her neck and ears); the regal woman dress in a gold evening gown dancing with her husband. I have collected more than 25 or my sisters from across the world, so far, all representing, to me, the women that we are. The women we minister to, and those that minister to us. I love my sister, and pray more than anything, that one day we shall see each other in all of or beautiful, colorful, glory - faults and all. Thank your for this topic. Thistoo, I collect sculptures as well. I am waiting on my next Blackshear piece "the thread that binds", I actually ordered the quilt. I am so glad to know I have fellow Ebony Vision collectors on board. Peace |
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Post by this2shallpass on Jul 28, 2005 18:17:05 GMT -5
Yes you do living. I've seen "the thread that binds". Hubby has put me on an allowance, so I've got to wait a while before purchasing anymore Blackshear. The brother is good. My son gave me "Just Chilling" as a birthday gift last year. He is the only man in my collection so far.
You can find some Blackshear being sold on ebay sometimes. I don't trust buying them from ebay.
My son has also given me most of the Mahogany collection. They were originally not my choice for my collection, but they are very special because he thought enough about what I enjoy that he gave them to me. I love the Mahognay with the three ladies holding hands facing forward and forming a circle with the glass bowl in the circle.
Home Interiors did come up with some great collectables!!! That's where I got my praise sister with the flowing gold top and long white skirt.
I pick my pieces very carefully. The mother in the rocking chair with her child on her lap was picked from a collection called the Porcelin Principle (when we were stationed in Germany). I look at the limbs for size and form, facial features and expressions. I know they are not real, but I don't like those skinny poorly made pieces. And.....I have to have that "gotta have her with my collection" heart felt emotion before she can join the other sisters.
Ebony Visions is great.
didn't mean to turn this into a collections post. I have been thinking about starting a topic on what is your hobby or passion. Collecting is one of my passions. Nothing takes the place of loving Jesus. My passion for collection my sisters grew from my women's ministry. But, I also collect Art pieces. I love the different colors all around me. I thank God for colors and blessing me to enjoy blue, yellow, pink, green, red, red, red, black, gold....God created all these wonderful colors, just like he created all of us beautiful, colorful, wonderful women.
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Post by keita on Jul 28, 2005 18:36:00 GMT -5
No worries, sis! We're women. We'll find our way back! WOW! In just this little space of time I've already found sisters who can resurrect and tutor me in my long unused French and now those with whom I can share a love of sisterart and collectibles! God is GOOD! My shelves are filled and my walls are covered. I like for my rooms and life to be filled with things that inspire me wherever my eye rests. Like you, I've found that much of that is about or representing women. My collection is very eclectic but my latest addition is "Joy" from Norman Hughes' "Sankofa Collection": www.littleafrica.com/sankofa/...and I dream of owning an original Elizabeth Catlett sculpture. The beauty of her work, especially of women, has actually rendered me speechless and reduced me to public weeping. |
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Post by this2shallpass on Jul 29, 2005 19:31:34 GMT -5
:)Ohooo, The Sankofa Collection is beautiful! Think I'll start with Lovers, Joy and the Dancer. Thanks for introducing me to this collection.
Gotta check out Elizabeth Catlett.
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Post by Beulah5 on Aug 2, 2005 4:03:01 GMT -5
Sankofa is a very popular Ghanain term and very symbolic.
Imo post a little extract on exactly what it means:
The concept of SANKOFA is derived from King Adinkera of the Akan people of West Afrika. SANKOFA is expressed in the Akan language as "se wo were fi na wosan kofa a yenki."
Literally translated it means "it is not taboo to go back and fetch what you forgot".
"Sankofa" teaches us that we must go back to our roots in order to move forward. That is, we should reach back and gather the best of what our past has to teach us, so that we can achieve our full potential as we move forward. Whatever we have lost, forgotten, forgone or been stripped of, can be reclaimed, revived, preserved and perpetuated.
Visually and symbolically "Sankofa" is expressed as a mythic bird that flies forward while looking backward with an egg (symbolizing the future) in its mouth.
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Post by this2shallpass on Aug 2, 2005 19:44:43 GMT -5
Beulah, If you don't mind and have a chance, can you speak about African Mask? I've have three of them hanging on my wall. I love the art work of them, but have never thought about what they symbolize. My husband purchased another one last weekend at the an Art Fair. There were many Africans selling at this Art Fair. Many attempted to explain what some of the pieces symbolized. I must admit I didn't understand much. It occured to me that I needed to to some research on African Mask, so I went to the internet. There is much to study about which mask means what, tribal mask, spirital, war, etc. I saw two of the ones I own on-line, but I still don't know what they symbolize.  I have zero knowledge on the subject. I like them for the art work. I have decided I shoud not purchase another Mask until I know what it symbolizes. I read on-line that some of the Mask symbolize spirits. That is what concerns me most. Are some of these spirits demonic, negative; some positive? Should I have the Mask hanging in my home when I don't know the symbolic meaning? It also mention that many are fine works of art, which is why I enjoy having them in my home. For the intricate art work. Whatever you can provide will be helpful. Sista T2SP:
Imho, these are some really important questions you're asking and issues you're raising. A friend and I were just discussing a similar concern a few days ago. We were sharing that we as African Americans are often so excited about making and expressing African connections that we are doing a lot of things in well-intentioned ignorance. (In addition to our purchasing of African masks and other artwork, I'm thinking about the (mis)use of kente cloth as just another example.) It would be wonderful if Bee (or anyone who is knowledgeable) would speak on this matter. For the time being though, I'm going to use your post to start a thread of its own here where folks can respond and the discussion continue.Keita |
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I have zero knowledge on the subject. I like them for the art work. I have decided I shoud not purchase another Mask until I know what it symbolizes.