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Post by True NSI on Oct 19, 2005 22:42:59 GMT -5
Thank you soooooooooo much Jasmine  That means a lot to me... I am sitting here crying thinking how could anyone think that I would purposely try to hurt them? That is so far from my character!!!!! Thank you so much Jasmine |
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Post by Anointed Teacher on Oct 19, 2005 23:00:38 GMT -5
True, this is excatly why some of us who are going through a season of alonely, do not talk to just 'anyone'. The assumptions you have made about how I am allowing the Lord to work through this season, and rather or not I am at peace, are totally out of order. You don't even know if I have read my messages. I am not seeking, nor do I require your instructions on how to allow the Lord to work in my or Patrick's life. My relationship with God is solid. I KNOW JESUS LOVES ME. I know you ment no harm, but sometimes it's best to keep quiet, rather than make assumptions. No disrespect, or anything else, but, I am not looking forward to a reply from you. Gotta go. Peace and Love to you.   ... WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THAT WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT?   PMS? 
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 19, 2005 23:12:48 GMT -5
Thank you soooooooooo much Jasmine That means a lot to me... I am sitting here crying thinking how could anyone think that I would purposely try to hurt them? That is so far from my character!!!!! Thank you so much Jasmine Don't cry, chin up soldier. Its a misunderstanding in interpretation communication. I believe you should look at it like that. I have truly learned from all boards that i have participated on that we misread into many things. Let it go and move past it.  |
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 19, 2005 23:49:37 GMT -5
I have experienced "being alonely" after the death of my husband, three years ago. I had had times before when I was alone, and when I felt lonely. I can talk only from my personal experience, and through it all, God's patient work and grace. To me, being alone as we say, applies more to a physical sense, the absence. Being lonely, is a feeling, a condition, and it touches the mind, the soul. Spiritually, I was extremely aware of not being "alone". However, the part of me which had been severed, cut off, left me completely stripped before Him, and just expecting, waiting for Him to do His work, whatever it was, because I sure did not know... Looking back, and it is the only way I can put it in words, it was like each part was functioning individually, like being first "deconstructed". Then, He rebuilt, but adressing each part individually. I believe that the common denominator of being alonely is that, whether we are aware of it or not, it affects each part of our being, body, soul and mind. Eventually, it will manifest and affect us spiritually, because each part, individually, demands to be "catered to" and reacts to loneliness differently, with different needs demanding to be satisfied. We know today that even a newborn child, if not cared for, not fed by the same person all the time, not spoken to, not cuddled, will eventually be sick, refuse food and could die... That's the result of loneliness, solitude and abandonment, death, one way or the other. Loneliness is fundamuntally against our nature, both carnal and spiritual. If a newborn child can die from it, not even having experienced the world as we know it, that shows the destructive power that it carries. How it affects each part of us, individually, is crucial, because for each part loneliness translates into different negative consequences and opens the door to many different types of compensation, often sinful ones. From my experience, I believe that the purpose of those times in our life, whatever causes loneliness, is to find our true identity in Him. At the end of this process, if it ever ends we might find ourselves alone again, but never lonely. Because then, we know who we really are, in Him first, there is no longer the fear of being ourselves in any environment. We know and we walk in it, in submission to Him. We don't walk in the world anymore trying to "get" whatever we think we need, we know we have received, we know who we are, and we share that and He only gets the glory. (I know I have been a little all over the place, but this is a very personal issue for all of us. My prayer is that we will recognise what being alonely is, face it, and emerge whole and free. Not kinda, but completely) Not to piggy back off of lilahs post, but in 2001 when I gave birth to my daughter "Jasmine", who died 6 minutes later, aside from the mourning and complete sadness, and hurt that I was experiencing. I was also lonely. My husband was by my side, I had friends who took on great concern and care for my family..yet I was lonely. I was not physically by myself, but I was by myself because no one understood the emotional state that I was in. A piece of me was missing and I couldn't understand how this could possibly have a purpose. I disconnect my self from everyone around me. I wanted be by myself. I didn't even want to wake up. I at one point asked the Lord..why didn't you just take me as well. But, It was only by God's grace and mercy that I came through the state of loneliness that i was experiencing. God reminded me that I was not alone. He reminded me that I still had a child that needed His mother, and a Husband that needed his wife because they too feel lonely. They too have experienced a loss. I can't describe what I felt for the next several months.Some how the process of drawing nigh to God began. I didnt know what God wanted from me. All I knew was that I loved God, I knew that inspite of everything that I had just been through that I would serve Him. My heart was mended, and God showed me how to value and appreciate my family. God also promised me, while still in the storm. double for my trouble. And He is a God who delivers and follows through. |
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Post by keita on Oct 20, 2005 2:49:44 GMT -5
God Bless You, Sista Jasmine for the gracious way you have ministered here. Choosing to affirm, rather than attack, is a productive communication skill when the objective is to bring healing to a misunderstanding. I bind the spirit of offense, in the name of Jesus, and reclaim this thread as the gift it was intended to be, indeed has been, and will continue to be for those who will receive it. Grace and Peace be with you all, my sisters in Christ! |
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Post by Beulah5 on Oct 20, 2005 10:13:40 GMT -5
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 20, 2005 10:18:10 GMT -5
lol
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Post by J13578 on Oct 20, 2005 10:52:58 GMT -5
Beulah, I agree with what you just said in this last post I really don't know what is going on, maybe it's just one of those times when not knowing is really bliss... Jasmine, thank you for sharing this part of your heart... I too believe that the rebuilding starts when peace is restored. |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 22, 2005 19:13:06 GMT -5
My sisters may we all always remember that anything that God is bringing us through, processing us through, or taking us to requires that no matter what; that we still walk in love. I was reading my Bible and was reading the book of Matt. when I came across the word "offense"..which translated to "sin". Please remember that we must at all cost we must walk in love and truly walk in each pieces of that friut found in Galatians 5. True, let me apologize to you. Please forgive us all if we have misunderstood or taken anything to you have said the wrong. And remember that even though the enemy wants you to believe that are not important to us..you are and we need you as much as you need us. Please let us watch out for the tactics of the enemy we're in a season where he has changed them up a little; but, even covered up they are still the same..
Love you all
Stillfocused
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Post by keita on Oct 22, 2005 20:09:28 GMT -5
I'm reminded of this from the opening post on this thread: "...In any (and sometimes all) of that, and perhaps even because we are women, there will always be times and seasons when we are "alonely". And when we are, we may very well come to think, really feel, or truly believe that no one understands us or our plans, hears our hearts, or has walked in our pumps..."My sisters may all always remember that anything that God is bringing us through, processing us through, or taking us to requires that no matter what, we still walk in love. Amen, SF! And it's that "lovewalk" which freely offers and receives forgiveness, whether we have or have been misunderstood. |
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Post by this2shallpass on Oct 22, 2005 23:53:37 GMT -5
I was talking to my sister today, whose son is in prison serving 5-7 years. She called to ask about Patrick, and had I heard from him. I told her I have not, but thanks for asking. We prayed together over the phone for her son and mine. As we were talking she told me how alone she feels, like she has no support system. That she feels like people, even relatives blame her, and look down on her because her son is in prison. Her son has been in prison for 2 years now. For about the first year-and a half, she refused to talk about him. She would hang up the phone, crying, if I asked about him. Her son and my son are very close, and have always been. I've cried, and prayed for her pain, and for my nephew. Just recently, has she been able to talk about her feelings, and how she and her son are working with the attorney to have his time reduced, etc. It has taken her nearly 2 years to be able to talk about this. Just recently have she allowed herself to cry, scream, and tell me how hard this is for her and the rest of her kids. She wants her son home. Today as we were talking she (is still) saying she has no support system. I told her she has me, but she has been shut down for so long, that I stopped talking about her son, so she wouldn't hang up the phone on me. We laughed about that. (Note: As close as we are she rejected my support, didn't even notice my offerings of support) Because I am also missing, concerned, and afraid for my son, I can identify with the struggle of her pain. Although I do not compare my feelings to hers. Our situations with our children are different. I don't know.... Anyway, what I could tell her is this: There is nothing anyone can say that's going to take your pain away. I understand now why you were not able to talk about it for so long. There is really nothing anyone can say that is going to make you feel better. All you want anyone to say is "your son is coming home"; and no one can tell you that. That's all I want to hear; and no one can say that. I was telling her that for me, all I want anyone to ask is "Have you heard from Patrick? how is he doing? How are you doing? At least that lets me know they are thinking about him and us. Again her situation and mine are different. She has expressed that she feels a type of shame because her son is in prison. She does not want anyone to ask how is he doing. That annoys her, and she gets upset. Out of her own dispair(spelling?), she wil say "how do you think he's doing, he's in prison! She has calmed down a little, at least with me. There are some people, even family members, that she will not talk too. Me and her are very close, we talk to each other often, almost daily, now. I think she is beginning to see the rainbow and the end of the storm. At least she is talking about my nephew and how she is dealing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm usually very, very careful about who I ask to pray for or with me. I regret having asked for prayers in a public forum; on the BB. It's not because of any of you, personally. My Spirit is very sensitive...........as is my Spirit of discernment........(that's all I will say about that.) The reason I am careful about who I join in prayer with, or ask to pray for me or my family, is because I need to know, in my Spirit that person.....does care, does love me/family, can get a prayer through. Walks in a spirit of love. Which is why I should have not requested prayer, in this situation, on a public forum. I know this is only a BB, but I am a person of truth, so I shall not lie to make someone feel good. It's not in my make-up to do that. God didn't give me that gene pool. True, I ask your forgiveness that you were offended by the reply to your prayer. Please don't take it personally. It could have been anyone. The reply was not posted in anger. I was not angry when I typed it. I was not even offended. I don't know why it(your prayer) was not received into my Spirit so quickly... Again, I can not tell a lie. In hindsight, I wish I would have allowed my 'self' to take over, and not have replied at all. I really do. I know we can control these things. But it came so quickly. What I find so strange; are the follow-up postings. That was kind of scary. My God! You would have thought I shot True, or something close. Especially True's follow-up. FYI, I've sent a PM to True. It was as if, the thought process is, that the Holy Ghost, that dwells inside of us is open to receive all prayers. The Holy Spirit knows all things. If my love walk, as seen through the eyes of others, requires me to lie, and/or pretend.......I was not created to be able to do that. I will say, again, that in hindsight, I wish I had not posted the reply. But that is all I'm allowed to say. I don't normally feel a need to explain myself. However, because my posting generated such.......feedback, I wanted to offer an insight into my reply. Not to seek agreement, or even understanding. If I've learned nothing else in my years of living, I've learned that oftentimes, no one will understand, or agree with what you do or say in this life. And that's alright with me. To your own self be true. Peace and Blessings to all. |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 23, 2005 2:05:26 GMT -5
Ladies..trust me on that one. I am still in "a process" and it doesn't feel good and guess what he's using to to shape me...a man !!! Talk about your lovewalk and a test in patience, longsuffering, lovingkindness, and love (agape) all be tested at one time !!!!!!!!!! All I am saying is OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the by the way it could fall in the category of testing to see if one is lonely or just alone
there is a difference.
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 23, 2005 2:16:50 GMT -5
I don't know what was going on..yet, I am beginning to understand that true sisterhood begins when we cover each other's back and stop the enemy in his tracks before anything else can get started. Whether we're lonely, living alone, in a season being alone, or just being processed through a season where God wants us to be alone with him. The enemy knows that we as women get together and start to uncover his schemes we are a force to be reckoned with and that's why he keeps so much tension going with the women on this bb.
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Post by keita on Oct 23, 2005 2:27:13 GMT -5
Sis T2SP,
Thanks so much for sharing that insight and for doing what you believe God would have you to do.
Your post reminded me of an article I once read and I wanted to share this portion of it:
"The act of telling our story, and feeling that we are being listened to, is one of the simplest ways to heal. A young South African woman taught a profound lesson about listening. She was sitting in a circle of women from many nations, and each woman had the chance to tell a story from her life. When her turn came, she began quietly to tell a story of true horror--of how she had found her grandparents slaughtered in their village. Many of the women were Westerners, and in the presence of such pain, they instinctively wanted to do something. They wanted to fix, to make it better, anything to remove the pain of this tragedy from such a young life. The young woman felt their compassion, but also felt them closing in. She put her hands up, as if to push back their desire to help. She said: "I don't need you to fix me. I just need you to listen to me..."
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Post by stillfocused1 on Oct 23, 2005 9:50:26 GMT -5
What a powerful; yet, true lesson.
Thanks for sharing that with Keita !!
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That means a lot to me... I am sitting here crying thinking how could anyone think that I would purposely try to hurt them? That is so far from my character!!!!! Thank you so much Jasmine 
... WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THAT WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT? 
