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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 10:38:01 GMT -5
Again...God is doing something in the midst of his people. Obedience is required..I don't care what others say..what is God saying to his people regarding these very things ? And because she is a prophet..she will endure things that others will not and she cannot do the things that others do. Sadly, the anointing on one's life will lift..even though they will be able to preach, shout, and work us into a frenzy. Even though that couple may benefit from it..what is gaining from this experience..being exploited by Hollywood is not funny. My spirit is grieved and somehow there is a sense that God is not pleased ...as he has warned her time and time again to step aside and find rest in Him. This is far from being over..and God is going to have the last say.
As for her being a prophet..her first alliance is to God and then to what he has called to do..she has been set apart by HIM and not anyone else..her life is not her own and she cannot do whatever she wants to do and not expect consequences for stepping out and not doing what God told her to do. Because of this fiasco many have fallen...that will be on her hands and her husband...
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Post by anointed on Apr 24, 2008 10:55:40 GMT -5
I hope someone asks her point blank how many times she hit or pushed him. That would be very interesting. Ask her about what she planned to do with that brick she picked up and was going to hit him with it. Domestic violence swings both ways. He has stated that she has been physically violent against him many times but no one has cornered her on that. That's been my biggest problem with the whole mess. I want to hear her respond to the fact that he said she hit him over the head with a book while he was lying in bed. Just a bunch of mess. A very serious subject for which many women suffer from is being turned into a circus. She has been opened and candid at the Teach Me to Love conferences about her and her husband's spats and arguments. Bishop Weeks has been opened too. So him saying she came at him is nothing new. It's just that everybody thought it was funny at the time.  They gave everyone the signs from the get go. Has she received any counselling since this happened? That's another thing that needs to be addressed. Christian counselling. How much can she tell someone about how to deal with this if she hasn't sat down and talked with someone about why she keeps winding up in this situation? She's still sick because she keeps winding up in the same predicaments. Until she knows why it keeps happening to her she can't rightfully tell anybody what to do because she doesn't know what to do! Filing for divorce and going on every tv show you can find is NOT the answer to fixing what's wrong in her soul. Have you watched the latest interviews I put up. She is currently going through Christian counseling with a neutral party. Also, by Bishop Weeks own admission she has tried to reconcile her marriage even after what he did. She didn't want a divorce. But he didn't reciprocate the same desire. He chose to expose her text messages, which really showed she loved him and wanted to make it right after everything that happend. She was willing to stick it out but if the other person won't meet you half way, then isn't the marriage done? She is attracted to violence and she's addicted to it and when she doesn't get it she provokes it because that's what she feeds off of. I know I'm pissing someone off by saying this but I've been to counselling concerning toxic relationships and I KNOW what I'm talking about. People get addicted to pain, addicted to abuse, addicted to violence. They beg for pain. They don't know how to live in a peaceful environment so the constantly pick fights and stir up mess. They thrive on it because they don't know how to be happy. Before she comes out and says anything to anybody she needs to sit with a Christian counselor for 9 to 12 months and work through her own issues. Just a bunch of mess. Okay. Who would have ever thought that Bishop Weeks would do what he did. Evidently not many people or else this whole fiasco wouldn't have shocked people. By JB's own admission, she hadn't seen him get to the level that he did until that night. Which means they had disagreements before (as they've told ya'll at their conferences.) But when it gets to the point where you tell your spouse "I'll kill you" then something is going on within that offender. Now how would JB know this would happen? How is she attracted to what could catch anyone off guard? Now JB must've not been that bad or else he wouldn't have stayed with her the 5 years they were together. Also note, she was counseling with his father who is an apostle and things still didn't get better. So it is what it is. All she can do is move forward and help others not get to the point that happened in her marriage. JB has admitted she's gone off on bishop. She has admitted she can be something else. She has admitted to picking up bricks and whateva else you want her to admit to. So Bishop Weeks really hasn't said anything new that hasn't been said by her at their conferences. Why the shock now? Again, we're making the issue about JB when she's speaking about the issue in general which she is qualified to speak on! Just face it, he will never admit to what he did. If every man was provoked by a woman who made him mad, then alot of women would be in a hospital. But nothing merits beating a woman to the point that another man has to rescue her that's a stranger and not her husband. |
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Post by anointed on Apr 24, 2008 11:00:29 GMT -5
I think we're not separating Juanita the prophet who has a call with Juanita the woman who is subject to the same problems and afflictions that affect people in general. Nothing should have warranted her being beat by her husband to the point of capable fatality. Simple as that! When are we as the church going to speak out on the ISSUE! Has anyone got a word from God that he wants the church to take on issues that are often brushed under the rug. God will deal with it in the church first, if we're ever going to address it in the world.
I don't thing JB is chasing the media but media is chasing JB!!!
Also, haven't prophets prophesied that the church is going to go into Hollywood but as soon as JB hit it there, as a door to speak about issues from a ministerial level, then there's a problem. I think the problem is many want JB to speak about what they already feel about her, when in actuality what people may feel might not the motives or intentions she truly carry.
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Post by anointed on Apr 24, 2008 11:12:50 GMT -5
One more thing...
If judgment hits the house of God first, it means he will address in his house what he will soon address in the nation. Could this be the case with domestic violence?
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Post by anointed on Apr 24, 2008 11:17:28 GMT -5
The only way to be able to show somebody how to get OUT of a situation is that you have to know the way out. You can't show what you don't know. She made it out. |
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 11:26:06 GMT -5
Okay..I have been very quiet. Thomas Weeks is not the root cost of why their marriage failed..Juanita was. Neither one has told the truth about what that night and neither is perfect. She changed and not for the better..she began to focus more on herself..than on the Lord..I watched TBN one night and watched how this one particular kept complimenting her and she was eating it up !! I have wondered how many times she has beat down her husband and bullied him to give in to her..we all love her. But, right now she needs to SIT DOWN !! Spousal abuse has been occurring in the body of Christ for years..yet, only now does someone become the advocate for domestic violence..how many women are in their graves ? How many women hit and knock on their husbands ?? and the church down all while playing the victim role ? There is more to this than meets the eye.
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 11:30:53 GMT -5
Yeah I do agree that judgment has hit the house of God. Yet, when exposure comes it to bring darkness into the light..but, to bring light into the darkness. The very motives of one's heart will be exposed, the hidden agendas, and the things we cover up are being exposed..I believed God exposed this to say to body of Christ at large..REPENT !! It doesn't matter who did what..repent.
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 11:34:28 GMT -5
I guess we should have known something was wrong when she say she didn't want to tear down her house with her hands and that she wanted both hands married to her husband. If God had revealed that principle to her then along with passage of scripture found in the book of Proverbs..just maybe that was indication of what to come..
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Post by vindicated on Apr 24, 2008 11:50:03 GMT -5
The only way to be able to show somebody how to get OUT of a situation is that you have to know the way out. You can't show what you don't know. She made it out. NO she did not. Getting out of the marriage isn't the same as getting out of the PROBLEM. The problem will continue to repeat itself in her life and his. |
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Post by vindicated on Apr 24, 2008 11:51:47 GMT -5
Have you watched the latest interviews I put up. She is currently going through Christian counseling with a neutral party. Also, by Bishop Weeks own admission she has tried to reconcile her marriage even after what he did. She didn't want a divorce. But he didn't reciprocate the same desire. He chose to expose her text messages, which really showed she loved him and wanted to make it right after everything that happend. She was willing to stick it out but if the other person won't meet you half way, then isn't the marriage done?
Okay then talk to us AFTER you've completed counselling. Counselling is a process. The entire process involves uncovering layer after layer of issues. You can learn something this week and feel like it's all over and go back to your next session and learn something else that makes you feel like you haven't learned anything.
I'm not talking about counselling with preachers, unless they are licensed in their state. I'm not talking about in laws who say they aren't taking sides. I'm talking about someone who has a two fold ministry and anointing, trained in that field with a license and trained in ministry. That's what I had and that's what Christians need.
It's interesting that you mention she didn't want a divorce because to me all these interviews seem like a cry to her husband. You have to understand how being a victim reverses a person's thinking. They do the opposite to try to get a certain result. If you've seen these behaviors before you'd know what I'm talking about.
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Post by anointed on Apr 24, 2008 11:56:20 GMT -5
NO she did not. Getting out of the marriage isn't the same as getting out of the PROBLEM. The problem will continue to repeat itself in her life and his. She's getting help and counseling about the PROBLEM. |
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Post by anointedteacher on Apr 24, 2008 12:02:25 GMT -5
Again...God is doing something in the midst of his people. Obedience is required..I don't care what others say..what is God saying to his people regarding these very things ? And because she is a prophet..she will endure things that others will not and she cannot do the things that others do. Sadly, the anointing on one's life will lift..even though they will be able to preach, shout, and work us into a frenzy. Even though that couple may benefit from it..what is gaining from this experience..being exploited by Hollywood is not funny. My spirit is grieved and somehow there is a sense that God is not pleased ...as he has warned her time and time again to step aside and find rest in Him. This is far from being over..and God is going to have the last say. As for her being a prophet..her first alliance is to God and then to what he has called to do..she has been set apart by HIM and not anyone else..her life is not her own and she cannot do whatever she wants to do and not expect consequences for stepping out and not doing what God told her to do. Because of this fiasco many have fallen...that will be on her hands and her husband... Could you tell me what actually God is saying to JB and what she suppose to do... NOT WHAT PPL WANT HER TO DO.... I guess you are in her prayer closet, so you know everything that God telling her. Please give us the prophetic Word .... ........................................................................................................ Every was wondering about what she going to do about Domestic Violent... When she going start doing something about it? She was invited to come on Divorce Court to talk about DV... now everybody is greived... confusion.... what do U want? Someone a blog mention that they work an abused women shelter... she say she was surprised of how many police officers wives are in these centers. Most of the preachers wives suffer in silent.... The Church and the Government need to begin to deal with DV... This is my question... Nobody is greived about TW's book, he lying for over six months and continue to, he exposing the text messages, His interviews and book were to slanders and do harm to JB and really out to destroy her. But get upset if anybody say anything negative about him. Now JB never slanders TW or try to harm him in anyway. She always focus on herself in her interviews.... .... Go on Divorce Court to talk about Domestic Violent and give counselling and again Not to hurt TW... here come the greiving ppl. |
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 12:02:35 GMT -5
Sadly the problems will continue until she accepts and admits that she part of the problem. Timeout having "issues" and not addressing them...and calling them "struggles" because pride won't let you deal with the root of the problem
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Post by vindicated on Apr 24, 2008 12:04:36 GMT -5
Okay. Who would have ever thought that Bishop Weeks would do what he did. Evidently not many people or else this whole fiasco wouldn't have shocked people. By JB's own admission, she hadn't seen him get to the level that he did until that night. Which means they had disagreements before (as they've told ya'll at their conferences.) But when it gets to the point where you tell your spouse "I'll kill you" then something is going on within that offender. Now how would JB know this would happen? How is she attracted to what could catch anyone off guard? Now JB must've not been that bad or else he wouldn't have stayed with her the 5 years they were together. Also note, she was counseling with his father who is an apostle and things still didn't get better. So it is what it is. All she can do is move forward and help others not get to the point that happened in her marriage.
You're actually making my point. Like spirits attract. Have you heard of the term "co-dependent". It's like when one person abuses and another seems to be the victim. But in counselling they find out that they BOTH ARE VICTIMS AND THEY BOTH ARE ABUSERS AND THEY BOTH ARE EACH HELPING THE OTHER TO CONTINTUE THE UNHEALTHY BEHAVIOR. It's a soul sickness that needs to be identified and healed.
Y'all stop thinking that I'm saying this woman deserved to be hit. I NEVER said that. I was married to man who had a violent streak. I know what it feels like when that spirit rises up on someone.
What I am and have been saying is that for violence, cheating, any kind of toxic relationship, IF YOU FIND YOURSELF CONSTANTLY IN THESE KINDS OF RELATIONSHIPS YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS IN YOU THAT DRAWS YOU TO THESE KINDS OF PEOPLE. These people have characteristics, they have traits and tendencies. Until you are taught to identify those traits and tendencies you'll continue to fall head over heels in love with these people. There is a brokenness in her and in him. Why can't these two people who want so much to love someone not live in peace with anyone? They BOTH need counselling.
And it doesn't matter if Juanita didn't want a divorce. Staying married won't fix the problem either. Sticking it out is not the solution. With the RIGHT kind of counselling and healing they could wind up together again and have a sho nuff devil chasing ministry together. But the first thing they need to do is shut up and sat down and get some help.
My bishop preached a series a few years back called, "I Can't Come Out Now, I'm Being Healed." That's what needs to happen here.
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 24, 2008 12:05:52 GMT -5
Anointed wrote:
She got what she wanted..and just maybe things did not work out the way she thought they would have and then she sought to say her marriage.
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They gave everyone the signs from the get go.