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Post by Nikkol on Jun 27, 2008 14:25:56 GMT -5
That's a question that is being reviewed based on the recent happenings in Christiandom. Years ago, this wouldn't have even been an issue because the church body as a whole, no matter how liberal all believed that men shouldn't wear earrings.
Scripture regarding men and earrings:
Exodus 21 :1-6
21:1
Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.
21:2
If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
21:3
If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married *, then his wife shall go out with him.
21:4
If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
21:5
And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
21:6
Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
I personally believe that men should not wear earrings. At the same time, I'm interested to see how others view this issue. Of course this won't change my view but rather it will give me an understanding of what ppl believe and why in comparison to myself.
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Post by stillfocused on Jun 27, 2008 16:28:22 GMT -5
I don't believe men should wear earrings either for various reasons..I was watching Benny Hinn some years ago, and he gave an explanation of why men don't wear them giving using the scripture above. Other reasons...some men have big ears and it's just not cute..and both my son and youngest son (before he was 3) have big ears and earrings !!
I believe that believer should infleunce the culture..yet, sadly the culture is infleuncing the church, it's leaders, and followers.
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Post by krazeeboi on Jun 27, 2008 22:01:06 GMT -5
I've seen the Exodus 21 passage being used to teach against men wearing earrings, but the word "earring" or "ring" doesn't even appear in the passage. It only says that one who has pledged to remain with his master would have a hole placed in his ear; it doesn't say that any jewelry would be worn in the hole. Furthermore, I could potentially spiritualize this passage and say that a pierced ear represents dedication to my Master under the new covenant, Jesus Christ, couldn't I?
The fact is that this particular issue is one of culture and principles more than it is a direct scriptural teaching. Both men and women wore earrings in biblical times, both within the Jewish culture and other surrounding Near Eastern cultures.
The questions that have to be asked are: what does this say (or not say) about my walk with Christ? What message(s) am I sending? Is it lawful or expedient?
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Post by vindicated on Jun 27, 2008 22:38:26 GMT -5
It never ceases to trip me out about how people are so quick to run to the old testament to find scriptures to condemn things...and like the pants scripture they are usually taken out of context.
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Post by krazeeboi on Jun 27, 2008 22:50:34 GMT -5
The OT also condemns lying, adultery, bearing false witness, murder, etc. It's not about the OT itself, but the context. The OT is still God's inspired Word and is useful for doctrine, correction, reproof, etc.
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Post by vindicated on Jun 27, 2008 22:54:57 GMT -5
True but it is not the highest law. It was fulfilled when Christ gave up the ghost. Then a higher law came into play which was the new covenant. The old covenant was just the babysitter to hold us, until the new and better covenant came along. Galations explains this. We are not old testament Christians. We are of the new covenant.
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Post by krazeeboi on Jun 27, 2008 23:13:30 GMT -5
Both the OT and the NT reflect the moral nature of God, and the things I listed in my prior post were clearly regarded as wrong even before the Law was given. Lying, murder, adultery, etc. are wrong under both covenants. So you can quote the OT to ratify that. The OT informs our understanding of the NT.
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Post by vindicated on Jun 27, 2008 23:25:29 GMT -5
My original comment was in reponse to the scriptures used. Not you. And my comment was based on the topic of this thread, men and earrings, not lying, murder, adultery, etc.
Lord Jesus. Here we go again.
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Post by krazeeboi on Jun 27, 2008 23:37:26 GMT -5
But you made a blanket statement which said, "It never ceases to trip me out about how people are so quick to run to the old testament to find scriptures to condemn things." Notice you said things, obviously meaning things in general. The fact is that the OT does in fact condemn things, things that are also condemned in the NT. This is why I said that the context is important. Some things that the OT condemns no longer apply, and some things that the OT condemns still do apply.
Let's agree on this: we must consider the full counsel of God's Word, both OT and NT. That should settle it.
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Post by Nikkol on Jun 30, 2008 9:08:34 GMT -5
The questions that have to be asked are: what does this say (or not say) about my walk with Christ? What message(s) am I sending? Is it lawful or expedient? Those are very good questions..... One thing that I think about is if a guy wearing an earring would be seen as another form of conformity with what the world is doing. Truth be told, it was a "style" that was started there and should we as Christians be following the latest "trends"? |
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Jun 30, 2008 9:16:21 GMT -5
The questions that have to be asked are: what does this say (or not say) about my walk with Christ? What message(s) am I sending? Is it lawful or expedient? Those are very good questions..... One thing that I think about is if a guy wearing an earring would be seen as another form of conformity with what the world is doing. Truth be told, it was a "style" that was started there and should we as Christians be following the latest "trends"? I'm thinking it's probably the lawful vs expediant, like a lot of things are. And though I'm uncomfortable with men of God wearing earrings (one or two), to say that we as Christians shouldn't follow the latest trends may be kinda hard since we as women follow the latest trends in hair styles, shoes, bags, hats, jewelry and clothes ... the categories of latest trends can go on and on............music, cars, vacation spots, etc.... So I'm asking myself when is it okay and when it is seen as conforming? |
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Post by Nikkol on Jun 30, 2008 9:22:55 GMT -5
True but it is not the highest law. It was fulfilled when Christ gave up the ghost. Then a higher law came into play which was the new covenant. The old covenant was just the babysitter to hold us, until the new and better covenant came along. Galations explains this. We are not old testament Christians. We are of the new covenant. Yes, the new covenant is the better covenant....at the same time it could be seen as "harder"... You mean to tell me that eye for an eye is no longer what I should be following now? I have to LOVE my enemies? Pray for those who DESPITEFULLY use me? Forgive people 70x7?  Yes, the covenant is better in that we have a keeper inside of us that leads us and guides us into all truth. Back in the old covenant, the spirit came UPON ppl but the majority didn't have that "relationship" with God as we can today. Additionally, under the old covenant, the sacrifices of bulls and goats merely covered the sin while Christ came to take away sin. We now have the opportunity to be free from sin AND it's penalty. I personally am very careful as to not make it seem as though the OT is "done away with" and/or irrelevant but rather that the NT adds upon that which is in the OT, hence why ppl can preach Christ from it. Additionally I will say that I believe that for a long time, ALL churches (whether baptist, methodist, etc) all had the same view regarding pants and it's possible that maybe during that time, ppl were wearing MAN's pants and not women's pants.... |
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Post by Jasmine on Jun 30, 2008 12:11:03 GMT -5
Pray for me, because a man with an earring is just sooooo sexi to me.
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Post by special28 on Jun 30, 2008 12:17:57 GMT -5
Jasmine,
Pray for me also.. Sexy is a understatement..
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Jun 30, 2008 12:24:02 GMT -5
Pray for me, because a man with an earring is just sooooo sexi to me. Jasmine, Pray for me also.. Sexy is a understatement..  I have a long list of things that I find sexy on a man, and earrings is not anywhere remotely on it. If anything, earrings on a man is actually a turn off for me. Go figure. |
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