Juanita Bynum preaching at Greater Grace

[anointedteacher]

The Word suppose to be "WAKE UP" not "WEAK UP" I guess you are use to my bad grammar, spelling and writing I believe of you operations in the gift of interpretation of tongue ;D

This stand out to me.... But I still say she must do it God's Way...

"Things are still very emotional for me, and I'm still hurting and there are days that I feel pain and there are days that I feel down, the whole nine yards," she revealed. "[I'm] very human, you know what I'm saying? I think that people forget that. I preach, I pray and I prophesize but I'm a human being you know. I bleed, I have flesh and sometimes I feel the pain but I come to the point that I know that I can not stop this because there's too much that God has given me and I think that it would be an insult to not only the kingdom of God but it would be an insult to God for the gifts he put in me."

She is still going through and have not healed, stopping and crawing in a hole will not do... Yes, going to all the world to preach the gospel is the Will of God.. we are not limited to the four walls of the church (we should be apart of a church)... But following behind worldly artists who is almost half your age and showing their seat to the world is not of God.... Go on Lincoln Height and being a light to those that need Jesus is good... But she still need to submit to a leader and become apart of a local church, to be accountable to someone other than God, this His Will.

I will keep her and a few other ministers in prayer.... going through such trails can cause a person to become open to deception of the enemy. They will think they are in the Will of God, when they are really in the will of their flesh, so keep praying for her soul and ministries.

[leadinglady]

I know that it must have been said before, but I believe that this is confirmation that prophetess Bynum should sit down for a while. It's a serious thing when your personal life is not in the place to minister to God's people at this time. She has a lot of hurt, even in dealing with people. I'm quite surprised that she hasn't come to this conclusion herself. Old mothers and church leaders back in the day would have insisted that she take a break and be ministered to and restored. I'm sorry to say this, but I seriously doubt that she is hearing God clearly on the level she once heard Him speak. When there is no revelation, there is no true ministry. You can't go on your past successes.

I wonder if she even acknowledges to herself that she missed God on behalf of marrying Bishop Weeks. I didn't read through most of the Bynum-Weeks posts (I became intimidated by the length, LOL), however, it was confirmed to me by the Holy Spirit that this marriage wouldn't last, I even saw in a vision the scandal this would bring to the body of Christ. Initially, when I heard that she had gotten married, I was like many sisters who rejoiced when I heard the news. It was good to see a sister, any sister, at that point get married. I'm really saddened and am fearful for her at this point. I would just love for her to get back on the right track, and put pride away. There should be a heartfelt brokenness from God due to the circumstances of her life. Trying to hold on to her ministry should be the last thing on her mind at this point, just getting back in the will of God.

Many women, have made this mistake in marrying out of God's will and suffered the consequences, and came back with a powerful testimony. Can you just imagine the power in her testimony , if she could just warn women based on her own life. I'm still rooting for her come back.

[keita]

Jul 20, 2008 14:08:05 GMT -5 anointedteacher said:

The Word suppose to be "WAKE UP" not "WEAK UP" I guess you are use to my bad grammar, spelling and writing I believe of you operations in the gift of interpretation of tongue ;D

LOLOL!!!

Actually, sis, I had edited "weak up" into "wake up" until Holy Spirit told me to put it back.

And then He brought to my remembrance that it's in our weakness that He's made strong.

Yet, for so many of us, even appearing, let alone becoming and being weak, even in Christ, is REALLY HARD and seriously scary.

[keita]

Jul 20, 2008 15:12:32 GMT -5 leadinglady said:

Many women, have made this mistake in marrying out of God's will and suffered the consequences, and came back with a powerful testimony.

Indeed, sis leading lady.

Can you just imagine the power in her testimony , if she could just warn women based on her own life.

I certainly can, sis!

In fact, that is EXACTLY what I praying, watching and wating for.

I'm still rooting for her come back.

AMEN!

For I yet believe that the sister was born. raised, gifted, called and anointed for a time such as this!

[stillfocused]

Jesus !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[krazeeboi]

Watching "No More Sheets" in retrospect at this point surely makes for some interesting conversation starters.

[stillfocused]

Yeah..krazeebi..it would. This should not have come as a surprise to anyone because she said that it was time to come out from the four walls of the church. Who wouldn't want to have their picture on Essence magazine ? And whether we see or not; believe or it not what has been seen is cry for help. Many Pastors and ministries are facing the same trials..hurting and preaching, faithless and preaching, prayerless and preaching, fearful and preaching, lack of compassion and preaching...trying to save face and preaching, and unrepentative and preaching..much prayer is needed for them all.

[livinganewlife]

Jul 20, 2008 23:56:14 GMT -5 krazeeboi said:

Watching "No More Sheets" in retrospect at this point surely makes for some interesting conversation starters.

YES Lord!!!!!!

KB, I am up for that conversation......bring it own! ;D

[leadinglady]

Stillfocused:
"Many Pastors and ministries are facing the same trials..hurting and preaching, faithless and preaching, prayerless and preaching, fearful and preaching, lack of compassion and preaching...trying to save face and preaching, and unrepentative and preaching..much prayer is needed for them all".

How true...
Could this be Juanita running away from her pain...?

[kitty]

KB,
I recently got a hold of the "No More Sheets Video"... I haven't watched it yet but I will and look forward to having some dialog on it...

Kitty

[nina2]

(Before anything else, whenever I write/say "we" it means "we in general" and when I write/say it means just that :-)

For what it's worth, I don't believe that she is running from her pain.
As a matter of fact, I don't believe that she is running from anything at all.

And, I probably need to explain that, and I'll try. The reason why I am saying this, and I won't say anymore, is because it has been a while that those "events" took place.

For some reason(s) that God always knew, she has always been a controversial figure. Through it all, and just fast forwarding because I don't want to get lost in everything else, she has always been herself, all of it.

And, at some point, people were thriving on it, all of it. Because of the way she went about all those topics, and she was the first one to so to speak "expose" herself in doing so. And again, the people followed, massively.

Here is what I just would like to say:

I am not here to analyze her private or not even her public life based on what transpires through the media or the ones "in the know" or at least claim to be.

Nobody has walked any distance in this LADY'S shoes, whether privately, publicly, as a woman, - because being christian and a christian leader does not make us less of a woman! - or as a woman of God.

I don't believe that she is, nor has she been, running from anything. I do believe that she knew, and met everything that was coming at her head on and on purpose.
Simply because she was/is the only one who knew/knows what and who she's dealing with. Her and God, and she knew/knows that too.

Actually, by things happening the way they did, the damages in the aftermath were still limited, considering hers and her ex-husband's position, and everything/everybody that surrounds just them too, and how it all trickles down and out from there.

I don't and will not question her relationship with God. Because for that too, I believe that she has, so to speak, deliberately taken a direction, and it's not necessarily going against God's will, at this time in her life. Again, we are on the outside.

I also believe that a lot of people can relate to the fact that, in a given situation, and in that context, there is a point where it can look like a no win situation. Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean that it is though...

I'm not saying that people should not have an opinion, and often it is an enlightened one.
Again, my way of looking at this is that she's the one who lived it, she lived through it, on all levels, and now she's out of it, on all levels. That does not mean that's she's not with God, and God is not with her.
Whatever we choose to call it, a valley to go through, a mountain to climb, etc.. whatever she turns her back to, as of now, she has to. And whatever she steps into now, and however she comes off while doing it, she has to.

I also believe that nobody can even fathom the soul journey that she is on right now, and has been.

That's why I definitely believe that we should pray, and love, and love sometimes, also means just to be there, and often be silent...

Just like before it was already true that we don't know what goes on behind closed door, even more so now, and the closed door might very well be the door of her prayer closet. She still knows God, and he still loves her....

And to paraphrase another thread, maybe somewhat out of context, we should get to the point where we can still pray, and just "let it go, and let it be"...

[anointed]

Well said nina2. Life goes on... even for Juanita Bynum. Let it go! You're right she has always been controversial (what major prophet in the bible hasn't been). Even when preaching holiness, people talked about her. I admire her perseverance to keep on going despite a very public situation and outrageous criticism. I really admire her perseverance to keep on preaching despite her father's passing. I just wished Juanita could've received just as many responses of condolenses on this board for her father's death as she's receiving right now on this particular post. So sad. But the world is ready for her to come and bring the gospel (did ya'll read the Sherri Shepard thread?) God is up to something concerning his good plans for this woman, as I've never seen a preacher be more attacked, criticized, and stoned than her ... her "morning" is coming!

[kitty]

Guys....

I'm going to say some really personal stuff here... So be careful in how you judge it and judge me. But I'm going to get real honest here...

How can any of us say she married the wrong guy? Sure we can all say she made a bad choice according to wisdom. But this is someone who claimed to hear from God and prayed about it. And let's get real... this is a woman who got all "super spiritual" and made claims to the rest of us that if we hadn't heard from God then we got our spouses " Illegally" !!!

Now do you all think she was just paying lip service?


Maybe she was and maybe she wasn't... who is to say... But I will say that she is is out of God's will right now for sure...

Why? Because she has clearly gone worldly...

And... according to the word she broke her marriage vows... which are supposed to be for better or worse... Not better and then even more better, they are for richer or poorer...

Not for richer if we can make more money in couples ministry. And getting outwhen it makes me look bad...

Truth be told... Who knows what God has said to Juanita about her marriage...

I bet three are plenty of you guys that would say that God told her to get out!

How about this guys.... Think about the fact that God could have told her to stay, and maybe her pride of life prevented her from doing that? Ever thing that is a real possibility?

Let me explain why? Couples I have seen with my own eyes...

My very own parents...

For years my parents used to have some knock down drag out fights... they were verbal, and some times physical.

The fights caused me to see marriage in a negative light and for years I thought I never wanted to get married. Their fights would scare me... I was afraid that something really bad was going to happen...

At one point my mother even ended up with a black eye!

I used to beg my parent to end the madness and get a divorce !

I USED TO BEG THEM!!!

These fights caused a rift in my relationship with my father for many years....

But then God took over....

I don't know why neither of them wanted out... But things got better between them.

By the time I was in my 20's the fighting stopped... Granted... I think in my heart I was ready to knock my Dad out at times... and told him point blank that I would not allow him to hit my mother in my presence.... But things got better.

My father started going to church regularly... By himself and things continued to get better.

By the time my father passed away I had a whole different view of my parents marriage....

I had always viewed my mother as the victim but she wasn't. She was just as guilty of the mess that was going on... And now that I'm in my 30's I'm clear that my mother can indeed provoke someone to hit her because she has provoked me to scream, and to tears...


So.... why claim Juanita married the wrong man... maybe she married the right one... But wasn't willing to listen to God's directions on being married.


because I bet the farm on this... That if that fight hadn't been made public... she still be with Weeks... This divorce was about pride...


Kitty

[anointed]

Kitty,

I think these words from Giants on another thread well apply to Juanita Bynum as well...

Jul 21, 2008 9:45:23 GMT -5 giantsdodie said:

Your statements pretty much add up to your opinion and conjecture at best and gossip and slander at worst.

Be very careful where you place your mouth.

You don't know nothing about JB for real or where she is in her life right now. But to give you facts, JB admitted on an interview that she was willing to go back with Bishop Weeks even after the public fight and the slander he told about her in the media, but she said he didn't want it. So what more could she do, sweetie? He even exposed a text message that she sent him that if they both get broken before the Lord, things could work out. So again, this was all after the public situation. And while we're on JB hearing from God about her marriage, Bishop Weeks says he's a prophet and the man in the relationship at that. He said he hadn't dated prophetess for more than 6 weeks before he claims she asked him to marry her. Why did he say "yes" if he really hadn't courted her like that? What was the reason for that? He knew the type of woman he was marrying and how her personality was before he married her so what's really going on? Shouldn't he have equally heard from the Lord on the marriage since you all say that God speaks to the man about who he should marry? Can you answer that on his behalf. I'm sure you can't and don't even try. Let's not be partial.[/b] I truly believe their union may have been God but the enemy found a perforation some where that led to this damage. That's why Satan is after leaders and esp. those on the frontline. So as nina2 says continue to pray...

P.S. Let's not think that her divorce from Weeks may imply a pattern with her first marriage (where she married when she was 21]. There may be a pattern but it's also true that there can be disassociated reasons for a first and second divorce (I've seen this). No need to speculate and play "Holy Ghost" as if we can decipher Juanita Bynum inside out. That's a witchcraft spirit.

Life goes on even after divorce. Just hear what God is saying to you about your relationships and not Juanita Bynum's...

[anointedteacher]

Jul 21, 2008 6:31:22 GMT -5 leadinglady said:

Stillfocused:
"Many Pastors and ministries are facing the same trials..hurting and preaching, faithless and preaching, prayerless and preaching, fearful and preaching, lack of compassion and preaching...trying to save face and preaching, and unrepentative and preaching..much prayer is needed for them all".

How true...
Could this be Juanita running away from her pain...?

YES!!! The church hurt her more than anything... we can not assume that the way church folks have torn her down have no affect on her.... Like she said... she is very human.... the ppl who were blessed by her ministry were the same that cursed her when she was down, she didn't need critism, she needed prayer... It hurt!!! more than Weeks' beating and what he say about her in his book.... Women in the church is where heart was at.... she love them and probably spend much time in prayer to see women be delivered from sexual bondage. Just becuase she appear to be strong and walk in authority when she minister, doesn't necessarily mean she that way when the anointing lift and the real person comes into place. She may be a very senitive human being..... Running away is not the answer.... but what can she do to avoid the pain, I am pretty sure she prayed, cried to God and seeked counselloring. Sitting down without the right ppl counselling you and supporting you $$$$... You know when you have joint account with your husband and you leave you loose alot of money.... she left all the investments in that ministry they had togather.... She had to build herself back up and quickly... so continue to work was not an option. Yes.. she needed to take a break, but it is easy to say than do.

Think about it... she invested millions of dollars in that ministry, with all those chairs, other furnitures and all the equipments, the publishing company that published her books, CDs and DVDs... Weeks was not rich and didn't have the money to make such a big investment. She had to start all over again and rebuild. She had her staff and property to take care of....

I believe she will balance back on track... She have to go through her season of brokeness. Her divorce is still fresh and healing comes with time... and on top of that she loss her father, less than two weeks after the divorce. It is really hard....

I wonder if I became a overnight success and millioniar in ministry ... how would I act? Will I turn into a prideful B---h ?hope not ! Don't know my own heart. I pray that I will be an humble servant before the Lord and not hook up on $$$$... but on bringing souls into the Kingdom ...