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Post by anointedteacher on Dec 11, 2008 12:07:10 GMT -5
The worst thing is that when I first made my comment I KNEW someone was gonna come at me like that. I actually had decided to delete it but by the time I came back to do it, someone had already replied. So here we go. This pretty much tears it with me. I didn't mean to upset you.... I didn't understand what's the big deal with his new wife or wife to be?.... Why it bothering you? Donnie McClurkin always seem to be a very private person to me and respect him. I am very happy for him and pray that God will bless him and his new wife I agree with you.... but I have to admit that I have went a little over board with TW and JB... The very things I used to jump on ppl about years ago on JB old board and on this one, I've commited, and was able to get some frustration out... and most of the things I was dealing with had nothing to do with TW and JB... I have to also admit, I felt released. |
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Post by vin on Dec 11, 2008 12:11:19 GMT -5
You know Keita, I used to wonder why you tend to use the ......  emoticon. I've even seen you use it on Donnie subjects. I used to always wonder, and even got a little irritated with you for doing that. I would think....why won't she just say what she wanta say? although I still don't know your own personal reasons for doing that. today...i wish i had done that! and now instead of being slightly irritated with you or anyone else for doing it.....all i got to say now is ME TOO! DITTO! |
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Post by vin on Dec 11, 2008 12:29:23 GMT -5
I'm really pissed so I'm not gonna go through and read the other comments for fear that I will go off. Cause that wish list comment almost got me banned from this board for real.  But I have noticed a sense of people thinking I'm jealous of this mystery woman. Let me first say that you won't find a bigger fan of Donnie McClurkin than you will in ME. I have bought everything he's done except his first cassette with nyrc and the first one with his sisters. (only because I didn't know they existed) when i met him he had the most humble spirit about him. there was just a sort of warmth and sweetness and charm about him but mostly humility and shyness. what you see when he's on stage singing and going off on the devil, is the exact opposite of what you see when you're right in front of him. And I do hope that she is everything he needs and wants because he has a special ministry that everybody is not even willing to have, even though many others have been raped and lived the homosexual lifestyle. Becasue of the controversy they choose to remain silent. But he has faced it head on even though people still believe he's gay and even though he will be accused of getting married to hide being undercover. I know the man has wanted to be married and I'm glad he's found someone. The answer to his prayers are finally being manifested. Anyone who's been single any length of time and has felt the heartache of wanting companionship should be happy that another one of us got what they've prayed for. I'm still waiting on my promise to manifest. The problem I had with the post, (and it's nobody's fault. it's just a personal pet peave of mine) was "she's very pretty". With all that man has done and with the fervor he ministers with and all the souls he's touched and lives he's changed, I just expected to hear something other than, she's pretty. Does she teach, sing, is she anointed, is she in the business? What? And that's what made me make the comments about hiding. Where she been? He been keepin her in a closet? How this man gone be on a national radio show for MONTHS talking about getting married when his own members didn't know a thing about it? THAT'S what had me puzzled. I don't care who doesn't like it or agree. That's how I feel about secret relationships. They survive in the dark but when they come to light they only last so long. NO MATTER WHO IT IS. So forgive me for sounding like I'm hating on him or her. Like I said, WHAT EVER. He does sound reluctant TO ME. He does sound like he's not sure TO ME. And he does sound like he was convinced tgo go ahead and get married. Call it hate. Wonder whatever you want. If this was the wrong place to say it, I apologize. I apologize for ever saying anything him. |
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Post by Nikkol on Dec 11, 2008 13:32:19 GMT -5
Until I see it in writing somewhere, I don't believe it. Too much mystery for me and I've been trying to find info on this since I first saw it posted. I see nothing online. I don't think I've heard anyone from his church on here to verify..... I just don't believe it.
Oh well.... won't loose any sleep over it......
But to all that are going back and forth. It's all good. Don't take anything personal........ and this is why you can't have too many women in one room. (lol) j/k..... or was I....lol
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Post by Jasmine on Dec 11, 2008 13:37:55 GMT -5
After reading through all the posts. It is my understanding that Donnie McClurkin never stated that "She was very pretty"..the poster stated that she was informed, she was very pretty. I mean, because people do not know her, maybe that's all they could say about her.
I haven't heard any announcements regarding Donnie McClurkin's engagement, however, I do know that people have a right to privacy. As for myself, one thing that I must always remember is that...These individuals are vessels are used by God, and are used for ministry and not popularity. He is due privacy concerning his life just as we are.
Whether she was plain Jane, had no singing ability, and no explicit sinful past..there is a purpose why he chose her, and there is a purpose on why GOD is allowing it to be.
God's blessings be unto them!
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Dec 11, 2008 17:44:41 GMT -5
I'm really pissed so I'm not gonna go through and read the other comments for fear that I will go off. Cause that wish list comment almost got me banned from this board for real. But I have noticed a sense of people thinking I'm jealous of this mystery woman. Let me first say that you won't find a bigger fan of Donnie McClurkin than you will in ME. I have bought everything he's done except his first cassette with nyrc and the first one with his sisters. (only because I didn't know they existed) when i met him he had the most humble spirit about him. there was just a sort of warmth and sweetness and charm about him but mostly humility and shyness. what you see when he's on stage singing and going off on the devil, is the exact opposite of what you see when you're right in front of him. And I do hope that she is everything he needs and wants because he has a special ministry that everybody is not even willing to have, even though many others have been raped and lived the homosexual lifestyle. Becasue of the controversy they choose to remain silent. But he has faced it head on even though people still believe he's gay and even though he will be accused of getting married to hide being undercover. I know the man has wanted to be married and I'm glad he's found someone. The answer to his prayers are finally being manifested. Anyone who's been single any length of time and has felt the heartache of wanting companionship should be happy that another one of us got what they've prayed for. I'm still waiting on my promise to manifest. The problem I had with the post, (and it's nobody's fault. it's just a personal pet peave of mine) was "she's very pretty". With all that man has done and with the fervor he ministers with and all the souls he's touched and lives he's changed, I just expected to hear something other than, she's pretty. Does she teach, sing, is she anointed, is she in the business? What? And that's what made me make the comments about hiding. Where she been? He been keepin her in a closet? How this man gone be on a national radio show for MONTHS talking about getting married when his own members didn't know a thing about it? THAT'S what had me puzzled. I don't care who doesn't like it or agree. That's how I feel about secret relationships. They survive in the dark but when they come to light they only last so long. NO MATTER WHO IT IS. So forgive me for sounding like I'm hating on him or her. Like I said, WHAT EVER. He does sound reluctant TO ME. He does sound like he's not sure TO ME. And he does sound like he was convinced tgo go ahead and get married. Call it hate. Wonder whatever you want. If this was the wrong place to say it, I apologize. I apologize for ever saying anything him. Hey vin, for some reason after I ready your comment I felt a need to see this. Never feel a need to justify why you are giving an opinion on something - especially a bulletin board. EVERYONE here has given their opinion on SOMETHING!! We have some people that only post when it deals with certain individuals, a certain person or a certain situation. I have no idea why people came down so hard on this particular post - however, they too, have their opinion and I will take it at that. Their opinion. I understand why hearing "she is so pretty" frustrates you - however, it shows that people continue to look on the out appearance as if that somehow validates her to be the perfect one for Bro. Donnie. I don't understand the "wish list' comment and I felt it was a bit judgmental as you have never mentioned (to my knowledge) having one. Oh well......... Anyways, I feel your frustration but please don't waste energy being angry. You know you aren't hatin' and to me, that is all that counts. |
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Post by kitty on Dec 11, 2008 19:55:06 GMT -5
Hey Guys,
I don't really have a comment on Donnie... But I do have some thoughts to share about the privacy issue of many single pastors dating....
In the past and currently I have had about 3 friends date pastors... The first thing that they all noticed was the Pastor's attempt to keep their personal life private from their congregations....
I think it is because it makes it incredibly difficult because people will all watch with great interest and concern. Plus there are the women in the church that will straight go after the person that the pastor is dating...
Many pastors aren't really looking for people that will always be "first lady" material...
One of my freinds that is currently dating a pastor ( none of his church memerbs knows and she doesn't attent his church...) stated that his comment to her was this... I'm looking for a woman that is going to take care of ME not all the people in the church. Asa long as she is taking care of me she doesn't have to be on any church board or group unless she wants to...."
Kitty
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Post by anointedteacher on Dec 11, 2008 21:06:11 GMT -5
When I was a young kid, I attended COGIC, we had a young cute and single Elder (pastor). There were a lot of women in the church hoping to be the one. One day he went away for a few weeks or so and came back with a wife. I remember when he anounced that he was now married and introduce her to the church.... My cousin was in the choir busted out in tears, she cried out loud  and a few other women in the congregation also cried... and a group of them left the church and backslided for a season. First Lady was beautiful not only in look, she had a sweet spirit... the ppl didn't treat her well, but you will never know it, because she never made a different with anybody. The women in the church used to talk about her all the time. I remember when they went away again.... they came back with a baby... a little girl who was about 18 months old.. she looked like First Lady but wasn't her baby... the day they adopted the child, First Lady found out she was pregnant and gave birth to a girl and later a boy... they was a beautiful family... They had to go through a lot with the women in the church.... Many pastors know there will face some problems and they want to keep their private life separate till they are about to get marry or married, to avoid unnecessary drama while their relationship is at infant stage. It is really hard on single male pastors, keeping their relationship a private still marrage is best for the congregation and to be wife... |
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Post by stillfocused on Dec 11, 2008 23:26:11 GMT -5
Please go back and read my original post. This is not heresay or gainsay..it's the truth. It was announced to his congregation..the source of the information is legitimate..a member of his church. Who ironically said the older women rejoiced and praised God with him; while the younger women were not too happy. There are no details of who she is..what her name is..where she came from..or what she does. This annoucement came soon after the death of his sister. As for the comment of her being pretty...so what ?! To one person she may be and to another she may not be. I have nothing else to say except this..please don't turn this post in one about Donnie, Juanita, or Thomas, III..please everyone be thankful in what God is doing his life and that of his future wife; some things are worth waiting for..especially when you wait on the Lord.
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Post by krazeeboi on Dec 12, 2008 9:16:55 GMT -5
I just thank God that God is God.
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Post by vin on Dec 12, 2008 10:47:48 GMT -5
When I was a young kid, I attended COGIC, we had a young cute and single Elder (pastor). There were a lot of women in the church hoping to be the one. One day he went away for a few weeks or so and came back with a wife. I remember when he anounced that he was now married and introduce her to the church.... My cousin was in the choir busted out in tears, she cried out loud and a few other women in the congregation also cried... and a group of them left the church and backslided for a season. First Lady was beautiful not only in look, she had a sweet spirit... the ppl didn't treat her well, but you will never know it, because she never made a different with anybody. The women in the church used to talk about her all the time. I remember when they went away again.... they came back with a baby... a little girl who was about 18 months old.. she looked like First Lady but wasn't her baby... the day they adopted the child, First Lady found out she was pregnant and gave birth to a girl and later a boy... they was a beautiful family... They had to go through a lot with the women in the church.... Many pastors know there will face some problems and they want to keep their private life separate till they are about to get marry or married, to avoid unnecessary drama while their relationship is at infant stage. It is really hard on single male pastors, keeping their relationship a private still marrage is best for the congregation and to be wife... I believe that if he had been honest about her in the first place most of that drama would have been avoided. Like I said before, the way to protect a wife is not to hide her and pretend she doesn't exist and then spring her on people at the last minute. The way to protect her is just that, protect her. Have boundaries and make sure people are aware of them and see to it that they respect them. Not by keeping the woman in a closet. I'm sure many of those sisters felt he was their husband but it was also a great insult to his congregation for him to keep her a secret. They didn't even get to go to a wedding? Their pastor's wedding? It's not right how they treated her but HE created that drama with how he treated that situation. |
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Post by vin on Dec 12, 2008 10:58:23 GMT -5
And to address the "taking it personal" issue. It's one thing for people to say not to take something personal. But if someone takes a pot shot at them or make an insulting crack (trying to funny) and it offends them, you can't say don't take it personal. The same comments would have pissed me off if I had seen them made toward someone else. It wasn't right. Everthing ain't funny. Just because you say something funny this week don't mean what you say next week will be funny. I don't think anybody on here makes money as a standup comedian.
Everybody who doesn't see something someone else sees, or who sees something others don't see IS NOT HATIN OR JEALOUS. Maybe they just observed and saw something different.
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Post by livinganewlife on Dec 12, 2008 11:17:46 GMT -5
Please go back and read my original post. This is not heresay or gainsay..it's the truth. It was announced to his congregation..the source of the information is legitimate..a member of his church. Who ironically said the older women rejoiced and praised God with him; while the younger women were not too happy. There are no details of who she is..what her name is..where she came from..or what she does. This annoucement came soon after the death of his sister. As for the comment of her being pretty...so what ?! To one person she may be and to another she may not be. I have nothing else to say except this..please don't turn this post in one about Donnie, Juanita, or Thomas, III..please everyone be thankful in what God is doing his life and that of his future wife; some things are worth waiting for..especially when you wait on the Lord. OK let me chime in on this topic....... As a woman who dated the Pastor prior to marrying him I understand the secrecy and being discreet especially with the Saints because sometimes if church people see a couple together to many times than they will more or less “push” you into marriage without you both being ready to make that commitment…… So the privacy I understand…….. But what I really don’t understand is why an announcement was made without making an introduction………..according to SF the members don’t know who she is or what’s her name all they know is that there Pastor is getting married….. Is it possible that the Pastor is just walking in Faith and calling things that are not as though they were?I for one have a problem with a leader “playing games” like that and not being able to be honest and present his wife properly to his congregation…..the job and duty of a Pastor / Husband is to walk in wisdom and to protect the integrity of his wife, his selection and his members…. something just ain't right about that  Mentioning his wife without giving the members (who he is accountable too) any information cause for speculation, misinformation, idle gossip, chatter and sows seeds of discord among his members…….. Why would the leader give the enemy an open door to wreak havoc........... I for one attended my husband's church several times before anyone knew we were dating…..however one of the Mother’s saw us out to dinner and he was forced to introduce me to her…..and after that incident the next time I went back to visit him….he did introduce me to the church……….I was not introduced as his wife or fiancée I was just introduced to the church members “publicly” but everyone for the most part knew that I was the soon to be Mrs.…as it was not custom for him to bring women to church…. Anyway after that the impact of my introduction wore off the rumors were put to rest and I got a chance to really talk and get to know some of his members and build relationships with them prior to our marriage and me moving to his city….. I am more concerned about Donnie making this announcement without doing things properly especially with him being a high profile Pastor and all…… that's just my two cents... |
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Dec 12, 2008 11:46:25 GMT -5
I am not married nor have I ever dated a pastor, but I have seen and heard ALOT. I commend Donnie for keeping his business just that, HIS BUSINESS. People may say the congregation has a right to know, but all that happens is that you open yourself and your future bride/groom open for all sorts of drama. Drama if you do, drama if you don't. With some congregations you just can't make people happy no matter what you do or don't do. Had he followed someone's script for "How a pastor should date, introduce his bride, and marry" his still would have not pleased somebody. Someone will always have something to say. That's why it's important to keep the focus on pleasing God and in his case being a COVERING for his bride to be. Kudo's to Donnie for doing just that.
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Post by anointedteacher on Dec 12, 2008 13:28:24 GMT -5
When I was a young kid, I attended COGIC, we had a young cute and single Elder (pastor). There were a lot of women in the church hoping to be the one. One day he went away for a few weeks or so and came back with a wife. I remember when he anounced that he was now married and introduce her to the church.... My cousin was in the choir busted out in tears, she cried out loud and a few other women in the congregation also cried... and a group of them left the church and backslided for a season. First Lady was beautiful not only in look, she had a sweet spirit... the ppl didn't treat her well, but you will never know it, because she never made a different with anybody. The women in the church used to talk about her all the time. I remember when they went away again.... they came back with a baby... a little girl who was about 18 months old.. she looked like First Lady but wasn't her baby... the day they adopted the child, First Lady found out she was pregnant and gave birth to a girl and later a boy... they was a beautiful family... They had to go through a lot with the women in the church.... Many pastors know there will face some problems and they want to keep their private life separate till they are about to get marry or married, to avoid unnecessary drama while their relationship is at infant stage. It is really hard on single male pastors, keeping their relationship a private still marrage is best for the congregation and to be wife... I believe that if he had been honest about her in the first place most of that drama would have been avoided. Like I said before, the way to protect a wife is not to hide her and pretend she doesn't exist and then spring her on people at the last minute. The way to protect her is just that, protect her. Have boundaries and make sure people are aware of them and see to it that they respect them. Not by keeping the woman in a closet. I'm sure many of those sisters felt he was their husband but it was also a great insult to his congregation for him to keep her a secret. They didn't even get to go to a wedding? Their pastor's wedding? It's not right how they treated her but HE created that drama with how he treated that situation. It would have been worst.... First Lady was very small (short & thin) she wasn't the type that will fight back or put ppl in their place. Those big and tall women would have ran her out of the church, before the pastor say "I do". By he marrying her before the introduction, they left the church. One woman went into a deep depression and die  she was close to my family, it was really sad. She was deeply in love with the pastor and probably thought God spoke to her... I don't know all the detail.... all I know what my mom told me about her... she passed a few years after the marriage. Plus ppl are not given a chance to hinder the relationship or push them into marrying premature. He's now a well known COGIC Bishop and they have been married over 40 years!!!... |
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emoticon. I've even seen you use it on Donnie subjects. I used to always wonder, and even got a little irritated with you for doing that. I would think....why won't she just say what she wanta say? 
But I have noticed a sense of people thinking I'm jealous of this mystery woman.
and a few other women in the congregation also cried... and a group of them left the church and backslided for a season. 
she was close to my family, it was really sad. She was deeply in love with the pastor and probably thought God spoke to her... I don't know all the detail.... all I know what my mom told me about her... she passed a few years after the marriage. Plus ppl are not given a chance to hinder the relationship or push them into marrying premature. He's now a well known COGIC Bishop and they have been married over 40 years!!!...