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Post by livinganewlife on May 11, 2009 12:42:23 GMT -5
Vin, now that's not so true but even if it is true............what is wrong with a Man of God (who is a child of God) desiring a beautiful woman.........and what is wrong with God granting man of God a beautiful wife...... Vice versa what's wrong with a beautiful woman asking God for a man of God who is saved, wealthy and working in ministry.....and what's wrong with God granting a beautiful woman a powerful rich husband..... Really IMO only black women think like this.....white women expect a beautiful white woman to marry up and they expect powerful white men to marry a beautiful woman...that's just the way it goes... That little fella down there in FL (something about him never set right with me) fooling around on his "pretty" wife. Donnie McClurkin's so called fiance, very pretty. And he still ain't married after supposedly was going to get married last years according to what he said. He's been this close to being married quite a few times so no telling what that is. It's just mess. These men are messy. All up in the church, the pulpit, the public eye, and just a mess. LOL especially at the Lil fella down there in FL comment ;D; he doesn't sit right with me either..... These men are messy and someone need to pull their coat tails....where are the overseers of these organizations and why are they allowing these men to do whatever  |
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Post by Nikkol on May 11, 2009 13:47:50 GMT -5
VIN: Are you hating on what some would consider "attractive" women?
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Post by krazeeboi on May 11, 2009 18:34:02 GMT -5
So y'all are saying the overseers need to ban these pastors from marrying a particular physical type? And I can think of several pastors/bishops whose wives don't fit this particular type you all speak of.
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Post by anointedteacher on May 11, 2009 19:05:27 GMT -5
Who care if the women is lighter than light or dark than tar, long hair or short hair, thin or fat.... It only the outter look that is driven by the flesh, but the real person inside, is what he have to deal with.... The question, is this the person that is approvred by God, after waiting, praying and being led by the Holy Spirit? or is this the person he choose to fill in that void that only God can fill and to have a Barbie hooked on his arm when he walk through the doors of the church.
It only make sence to marry a younger woman that can have children, if he desire more children...
Her look don't have anything to do with it.... I just hope he don't beat the mess out of her, when he find out she have a mind of her own and brain to think, and that there will be disagreements.... or refuse to be controlled. I hope he control his temper, be delivered and satisfied.
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Post by anointedteacher on May 11, 2009 19:07:27 GMT -5
So y'all are saying the overseers need to ban these pastors from marrying a particular physical type? And I can think of several pastors/bishops whose wives don't fit this particular type you all speak of. NOT EVERYBODY.... only one person speaking against it... |
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Post by vin on May 11, 2009 21:09:00 GMT -5
VIN: Are you hating on what some would consider "attractive" women? Nikkol everything doesn't have to be made into a controversial subject. If I've said something you can prove wrong or directly dispute then do that. Other than that just let me see things the way I see them. HOW DO YOU SEE THEM? |
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Post by vin on May 11, 2009 21:10:24 GMT -5
VIN: Are you hating on what some would consider "attractive" women? Is it okay for me to say that's a foolish question? I don't even think I will respond to it. I mean...good grief. The term "hating" is WAY OVERRATED...AND OVER USED. |
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Post by Nikkol on May 12, 2009 7:31:11 GMT -5
VIN: Are you hating on what some would consider "attractive" women? Nikkol everything doesn't have to be made into a controversial subject. If I've said something you can prove wrong or directly dispute then do that. Other than that just let me see things the way I see them. HOW DO YOU SEE THEM? Actually, the topic wasn't controversial until this was stated, by you: To elaborate on why I say that, you will notice that pretty much every post made after that was in response to that one post. It just sounded harsh/mean to a person that may be light skinned or with long hair, etc. If I were in that category, I would've felt put down/demeaned.... And when it was questioned if that was what you were implying, you equated that ppl believe that marrying the "typical person" will keep them from their uncontrollable lust..... Not to mention that "ugly" or even "average" can vary depending on the person... I hope that makes sense. :-) Now in reference to your question, since my thoughts on divorce/remarriage are different than I believe most on the board, I don't really see it as much of anything. |
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Post by livinganewlife on May 12, 2009 9:15:58 GMT -5
So y'all are saying the overseers need to ban these pastors from marrying a particular physical type? And I can think of several pastors/bishops whose wives don't fit this particular type you all speak of. Wuz up KB, I am not saying that the overseer need to pull anyone's coat tail for marrying a pretty woman or an unattractive woman...however, my concern and what bothers me the most is that the men can continue on in ministry after messy divorces, children out of the marriage, remarriages and divorced again and agained.............and it seems as if the church has turned Hollywood in regards to the standard biblical principles of marriage not the physical standards of the women. Which is why I feel that the overseers or whomever need to get involved and sit these young men / women down! |
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Post by Rachel2 on May 12, 2009 12:01:08 GMT -5
So y'all are saying the overseers need to ban these pastors from marrying a particular physical type? And I can think of several pastors/bishops whose wives don't fit this particular type you all speak of. Wuz up KB, I am not saying that the overseer need to pull anyone's coat tail for marrying a pretty woman or an unattractive woman...however, my concern and what bothers me the most is that the men can continue on in ministry after messy divorces, children out of the marriage, remarriages and divorced again and agained.............and it seems as if the church has turned Hollywood in regards to the standard biblical principles of marriage not the physical standards of the women. Which is why I feel that the overseers or whomever need to get involved and sit these young men / women down!Amen Livinganewlife, My thoughts exactly.... Where is the accountability? I am sick and tired of these "bishops/pastors/men of God" committing blatant and open sin and then being allowed to continue in their position in the "church" as if nothing ever happened. The "women of God" need to sit down too if they are in this mess. There is more worldly influence in the church than worldly influence in the world. It's just pitiful. AND Yes, I meant to say it that way. IMO, this is a direct result of the church getting away from the "old way of doing things" when they preached and taught Holiness or Hell without concern for hurting somebody's feelings. Today, there is too much concern about losing members and their money and not enough concern about people dying and going to Hell because it's no longer fashionable to preach and practice the true word of God. BTW, Jamal Bryant was here 2 weeks ago preaching at a conference. Of course I had no intention of going to hear him talk about anything (unless it was to say that he had repented before God and that his overseer had restored him to ministry). But amazingly many Holy Ghost filled, supposedly walking in the word saints did go and said he did an awesome job. Makes me say ummmmmm? |
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Post by livinganewlife on May 12, 2009 13:06:58 GMT -5
BTW, Jamal Bryant was here 2 weeks ago preaching at a conference. Of course I had no intention of going to hear him talk about anything (unless it was to say that he had repented before God and that his overseer had restored him to ministry). But amazingly many Holy Ghost filled, supposedly walking in the word saints did go and said he did an awesome job. Makes me say ummmmmm? People are more interested in theatrics than in the word of God......I can say that because if people really used their proper discernment than folks will be able to see through the theatrics and take it exactly for what it is a SHOW........... Don't get me wrong I love to hear Jamal speaks because I think he is an eloquent orator and has a grasp of the English language along with an urban hip hop appeal...........so for that I give him credit....but as far as anything else  |
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Post by Rachel2 on May 12, 2009 14:31:28 GMT -5
BTW, Jamal Bryant was here 2 weeks ago preaching at a conference. Of course I had no intention of going to hear him talk about anything (unless it was to say that he had repented before God and that his overseer had restored him to ministry). But amazingly many Holy Ghost filled, supposedly walking in the word saints did go and said he did an awesome job. Makes me say ummmmmm? People are more interested in theatrics than in the word of God......I can say that because if people really used their proper discernment than folks will be able to see through the theatrics and take it exactly for what it is a SHOW........... Don't get me wrong I love to hear Jamal speaks because I think he is an eloquent orator and has a grasp of the English language along with an urban hip hop appeal...........so for that I give him credit....but as far as anything else Right, it's just a show! Yolanda Adams has a syndicated morning show that airs in this region M-F at 6 a.m. One morning she was talking about being in concert some place and how George Clinton, the Father of Funkadelic Funk, told her how good she sound and how the world USE to borrow music from the church, but now the CHURCH is borrowing music from the world. The most disturbing thing about his statement to me was the fact that she took it as a compliment. She was very proud that he said this to her. That's how far the church has moved away from the truth. |
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Post by Nikkol on May 13, 2009 8:56:13 GMT -5
BTW, Jamal Bryant was here 2 weeks ago preaching at a conference. Of course I had no intention of going to hear him talk about anything (unless it was to say that he had repented before God and that his overseer had restored him to ministry). But amazingly many Holy Ghost filled, supposedly walking in the word saints did go and said he did an awesome job. Makes me say ummmmmm? Question: Are you saying that based upon his past that he couldn't do an awesome job or that based on his past those with the spirit of G-d shouldn't have gone to hear him? |
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Post by Nikkol on May 13, 2009 8:58:50 GMT -5
People are more interested in theatrics than in the word of God......I can say that because if people really used their proper discernment than folks will be able to see through the theatrics and take it exactly for what it is a SHOW........... Don't get me wrong I love to hear Jamal speaks because I think he is an eloquent orator and has a grasp of the English language along with an urban hip hop appeal...........so for that I give him credit....but as far as anything else Right, it's just a show! Yolanda Adams has a syndicated morning show that airs in this region M-F at 6 a.m. One morning she was talking about being in concert some place and how George Clinton, the Father of Funkadelic Funk, told her how good she sound and how the world USE to borrow music from the church, but now the CHURCH is borrowing music from the world. The most disturbing thing about his statement to me was the fact that she took it as a compliment. She was very proud that he said this to her. That's how far the church has moved away from the truth. That's a WHOLE different topic because one of the main "culprits" of what would be considered bringing the world music in the church was Thomas Dorsey.... tho I doubt most ppl now would think that "Precious Lord" is a worldly song..... or would we...... LOL. Added here to not start a separate posts: What are we using as the indicator that a preacher has repented? Does it have to be over the "airwaves"? |
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Post by livinganewlife on May 13, 2009 9:40:33 GMT -5
Right, it's just a show! Yolanda Adams has a syndicated morning show that airs in this region M-F at 6 a.m. One morning she was talking about being in concert some place and how George Clinton, the Father of Funkadelic Funk, told her how good she sound and how the world USE to borrow music from the church, but now the CHURCH is borrowing music from the world. The most disturbing thing about his statement to me was the fact that she took it as a compliment. She was very proud that he said this to her. That's how far the church has moved away from the truth. That's a WHOLE different topic because one of the main "culprits" of what would be considered bringing the world music in the church was Thomas Dorsey.... tho I doubt most ppl now would think that "Precious Lord" is a worldly song..... or would we...... LOL. Added here to not start a separate posts: What are we using as the indicator that a preacher has repented? Does it have to be over the "airwaves"? As a pastor or minister who has sinned before the people than yes he/she needs to repent to God and than ask to be restored and forgiven by his members / followers..... In the case of Thomas Weeks not only did he divorce this woman he also "hit / beat down" this woman in a very public place and it was aired all over the airwaves for ALL to see.....so in that case yes he needs to make a public apology and than proceed in his ministry....because not only did Weeks sin he broke the law.....Assault and Battery is against the law..... |
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