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[seven65]

HOUSTON – The wife of the pastor of the nation's largest church was asked to leave a plane after she failed to comply with a flight attendant's instructions, the FBI said Tuesday. Houston Lakewood Church pastor Joel Osteen, his wife, Victoria, and their two children had boarded a Continental Airlines flight from Houston to Vail, Colo., on Monday. A passenger told the Houston Chronicle that Ms. Osteen became angry when an attendant couldn't immediately clean up liquid on her tray, pushed an attendant and tried to enter the thingypit. The family took another flight, an official said, though the first flight was delayed more than an hour while the Osteens' luggage was removed.

[nsi]

"nation's largest church"
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[TJ]

what happened to all that smile...be patient...be happy stuff?

[ATT]

Who care , but those who alway try to find fault in well known ministers :-/and fail to see the mess within their own selves .

[stillfocused1]

We all that this post would draw some heat. ATT, who cares ? Those who won't step past the threshold of a church..because WE don't know how act. Yes, they are human and have bad days just like anyone else..and that doesn't excuse the behavior. We must always remember that people are watching whatever we do; wherever we're at..nobody's finding fault. She got upset and acted out. I did similiar last week and the Lord, comforted me throughout the whole thing. They are reknown ministers and they will be recognized anywhere they go..and just like our actions have to line with what we're saying..so will theirs. I found out that those who don't believe in the Lord, those that are backslidden, and those have simply walked are tired of hearing one thing and seeing another..

ATT..I knew that you would respond to this one..I just surprised it took this long . Seriously, how are you doing ??

[Nikkol]

One scripture comes to mind:

Mt 5:14
Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Once any person becomes popular and is in the "light" so to speak, everything that they do is discussed. Does it sound good? No. But these are things that one must be careful of moreso if one is in a very "popular ministry". However, this doesn't exclude anyone else.

[guest]

It is important to be light of this world.
And when we aren't we need to be honest about that. I find that this makes a difference with my friends who aren't saved but are watching me in my own personal walk. When I act out, do something wrong, or say something wrong... I acknowledge that I'm not following Christs' ways at that moment. That at those moments I am not being a good Christian. This goes a long way... it keeps them from being confused, and it keeps me from giving God or other Christians a bad name or seeming like a phony. Thus those around me can see that my goal is to die to myself and become more Christ like. And I think it doesn so much for them to see that I'm being honest. Just that fact alone... I believe helps them to have more of an open heart to receiving Jesus Christ.
It could be possible that Olsen's wife... may have just gotten a little too pampered. Hopefully this incident will help to remind her of who and what she is supposed to represent.

[Guest]

guest said:

It could be possible that Olsen's wife... may have just gotten a little too pampered. Hopefully this incident will help to remind her of who and what she is supposed to represent.

It could also be possible that we don't know what really went down on the plane. It could be possible that the media hasn't given the full scope of the story since ministers are often put in a negative light by the news. We must realize that being a Christian is not a stamp to be walked all over and take people disrespecting you. If you have that ideology then you will always herald the 'woe to the shepherd' message.

[ATT]

I have been on the plane when a flight attendant deliverly waste coffee on my white pant and look at me with a half smile, no apology. The only thing that kept me from going off on that lady were I was struffing from motion sickness and was doing everything in my power to keep from throwing up. May I should have thrown up on her ;D Thank God the coffee wasn't hot enough to burn me.

I have a hard time understanding Christian take what the media says about a brother or sister in Christ as truth, but have an hard time believing any report from a true Christian. In the article above you see somethings missing, such as what instruction was Mrs. Osteen was given and refuse to follow? Why didn't the flight attendant respond to Ms. Osteen, such as liquid that was on her tray that may waste on her clothes ( the plane appearently wasn't off the ground yet, do they serve drink that early on the flight? Right before taking off?) Why was Ms. Osteen prevented from reporting the attitude of the flight attendant, to a supervisor, may be that why she was trying to get to the thingypit? You don't know if the flight attendant was a witch, or someone that is out to attack Christians.

Stillfocus.... I don't come on this board much anymore.... WHO CARE.... Some those who look at the church from the outside think some Christian are weak and door mat. They stay away from the church because they don't want to be weak and a door mat. They respect Christian who take a stand and speak up like Jesus, did the Pharisee tried to tempt him. Was Jesus out of control when He cleaned out the temple. How Mrs. Osteen really react? we will never know the truth. That's why I say who care.

ATT

[stillfocused1]

ATT..thanks for responding. You're right Christians are looked as weak doormats...and feel that if you speak up and when you do; you aren't representing the sweet passive man he has been portrayed as; you ain't no Christian..and really we are not Christians..because anybody can they are a Christian...yet, when one says they are a Believer..that's a difference because they stand their ground and will not compromise the Word of God..talk to about 5 people at your job and you will find out that most are Christians..but, you wouldn't know because they act so much everybody else.

[Guest]

Didn't Peter cut off a man's ear right in front of Jesus while walking with the Lord for 3 years? And he was an apostle. I wonder how the news would've reported that. In fact, many figures in the bible we would consider, today, as deserving the 'woe to the shepherd' message but yet we love characters such as David who was an adulterer, Moses who murdered, Abraham who lied. Give Olsteen's wife a break. We really don't know what happend. ATT, I like the minority view that you bring to these posts. Sometimes it appears as if people put you in a light of 'what is she talking about?' but many things you say are humble and true. The love you have isn't critical of leaders but it makes room in understanding that they are human too. It takes a mature believer to see a leader's weakness and areas in need of growth and still call them a man or woman of God instead of 'woe to the shepherd'. This doesn't excuse a leader not walking in God's will but we need to discern the difference.

I'm sick of people thinking just because a person is a Christian we're supposed to just take mess. I've learned that the main people to get offensive and hurt easily are those who don't mind attacking you first. But if you come at them and deal with them on the level that they confront you, then they're hurt. I'm talking about "mature" Christians here!

[guest]

ASSOCIATED PRESS

Pastor's Wife Says She Chose to Exit Plane Fri Dec 23, 7:39 PM ET


HOUSTON - The wife of the pastor of the nation's largest church said she chose to leave an airplane after a disagreement with a flight attendant, disputing accounts that she was asked to go.


The FBI has said Victoria Osteen was asked to leave after failing to obey crew instructions. The Continental Airlines flight Monday from Houston to Vail, Colo., was delayed an hour as a result.

In a statement posted on the Lakewood Church Web site, Osteen says: "Regardless of how some have portrayed the situation, please know that it was truly a minor misunderstanding and did not escalate into what you saw or read in the news. Contrary to those reports, it was my choice to remove myself from the situation. Nonetheless, it was a most unfortunate event and I truly regret that it happened."

A statement from Continental said the situation was resolved and a spokeswoman would not elaborate. The FBI reviewed a report from the airline and determined that no illegal activity had occurred, FBI spokeswoman Luz Garcia said.

"She failed to comply with the flight attendant's instructions, and they were asked to leave the flight," Garcia said Tuesday.

Church spokesman Don Iloff said the Osteen family took another flight to Vail.

Pastor Joel Osteen took over his father's church in 1999 and has since increased its following to more than 30,000 worshippers weekly. The congregation of Lakewood Church meets in a renovated sports arena where the Houston Rockets once played.

Osteen's sermons are also broadcast throughout the country and his book "Your Best Life Now" has become a best seller.

[krazeeboi]

Guest said:

guest said:

It could be possible that Olsen's wife... may have just gotten a little too pampered. Hopefully this incident will help to remind her of who and what she is supposed to represent.

It could also be possible that we don't know what really went down on the plane. It could be possible that the media hasn't given the full scope of the story since ministers are often put in a negative light by the news. We must realize that being a Christian is not a stamp to be walked all over and take people disrespecting you. If you have that ideology then you will always herald the 'woe to the shepherd' message.

That's it.

[Melani23]

It could go either way. The new "ism" is garnered for Christians. So Watch Out!

Mel

[vindicated]

We can never forget that when it comes to Christians, the world ALWAYS blows things WAY out of proportion.
And even if she did get upset or angry, that's not a sin. Christians get angry too. Anger is an emotion, not a sin.