Church converted 2 Hebrew Israelite Assembly!

[auneeqsol]

Ahhh

And there is that trustworthy, reliable, knowledgable response that we know we will get from GDD.... and I do love it!

You know I had not thought about it like that in its entirety. But what you said made a lotta sense. And the point you made of ppl assuming that his name was Yeshua because he was Hebrew.

But I have another question for ya. Are you saying that the KJV is the divine authorized version? The reason why I ask is because you mentioned if ppl knew how we came to have the KJV it would be understood why its the most accurate. And I have to ask most accurate in what way? Because we understand that there are the languages of the original texts.
And to my understanding the KJV came about for political reasons

[anointedteacher]

I use KJV... or Amplify with the KJV... INV have missing verses..... I also use NLV with my KJV... I am only comfortable with KJV. I also keep my Strong's Concordance close by. the other version sometime leave out verese or change the meaning of the scripture...

[giantsdodie]

A little history lesson on the KJV. ( this is information that I found but this matches exactly what I have learned in classes on how we got the KJV Bible)

To many, the origin of the Bible can be summed-up as follows:
"A mere translation of a translation of an interpretation of an oral tradition" - and therefore, a book with no credibility or connection to the original texts. Actually, the foregoing statement is a common misunderstanding of both Christians and non-christians alike.

Translations such as the King James Version are derived from existing copies of ancient manuscripts such as the Hebrew Masoretic Text (Old Testament) and the Greek Textus Receptus (New Testament), and are not translations of texts translated from other interpretations.

The primary differences between today's Bible translations are merely related to how translators interpret a word or sentence from the original language of the text source (Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek).

Origin of the Bible - The Reliability of Ancient Manuscripts
Another challenge against the origin of the Bible is the reliability of the manuscripts from which today's Bibles are translated. Remarkably, there is widespread evidence for absolute reliability. There are more than 14,000 existing Old Testament manuscripts and fragments copied throughout the Middle East, Mediterranean and European regions that agree dramatically with each other.

In addition, these texts agree with the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, which was translated from Hebrew to Greek some time during the 3rd century BC. The Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in Israel in the 1940's and 50's, also provide phenomenal evidence for the reliability of the ancient transmission of the Jewish Scriptures (Old Testament) before the arrival of Jesus Christ.

The Hebrew scribes who copied the Jewish Scriptures dedicated their lives to preserving the accuracy of the holy books. These scribes went to phenomenal lengths to insure manuscript reliability. They were highly trained and meticulously observed, counting every letter, word and paragraph against master scrolls. A single error would require the immediate destruction of the entire text.

The manuscript evidence for the New Testament is also dramatic, with over 5,300 known copies and fragments in the original Greek, nearly 800 of which were copied before 1000 AD. Some manuscript texts date to the early second and third centuries, with the time between the original autographs and our earliest existing copies being a remarkably short 60 years.

Interestingly, this manuscript evidence far surpasses the manuscript reliability of other ancient writings that we trust as authentic every day. Look at these comparisons: Julius Caesar's "The Gallic Wars" (10 manuscripts remain, with the earliest one dating to 1,000 years after the original autograph);
Pliny the Younger's "History" (7 manuscripts; 750 years elapsed); Thucydides' "History" (8 manuscripts; 1,300 years elapsed); Herodotus' "History" (8 manuscripts; 1,300 years elapsed); Sophocles (193 manuscripts; 1,400 years); Euripides (9 manuscripts; 1,500 years); and Aristotle (49 manuscripts; 1,400 years).

Homer's "Iliad", the most renowned book of ancient Greece, has 643 copies of manuscript support. In those copies, there are 764 disputed lines of text, as compared to 40 lines in all the New Testament manuscripts (Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix, A General Introduction to the Bible, Moody, Chicago, Revised and Expanded 1986, p. 367).

In fact, many people are unaware that each of William Shakespeare's 37 plays (written in the 1600's) have gaps in the surviving manuscripts, forcing scholars to "fill in the blanks." This pales in textual comparison with the over 5,300 copies and fragments of the New Testament that, together, assure us that nothing's been lost. In fact, all of the New Testament except eleven verses can be reconstructed from the writings of the early church fathers in the second and third centuries.

Now there were other version before and after the KJV but none of them have ever gone through the process that the KJV was put through to be published.

Background on just some of the 47 men who helped in the translation.

Launcelot Andrews, the head of the Westminster company which translated Genesis through II Kings was skilled in 15 languages. It is said of him that he might almost have served as an interpreter general at the confusion of tongues, he was so proficient in the languages. Others spoke of him as that great gulf of learning. He was so knowledgeable that the world wanted learning to know how learned this man was.

William Bedwell of the same company was well known as the greatest Arabic scholar of the day. To him belongs the honor of being the first who promoted and revived the study of the Arabic language and literature in Europe. He authored the Lexicon Heptaglotten, which included Hebrew, Syriac, Chaldee, and Arabic. He also worked on a Persian dictionary, an Arabic Lexicon, and an Arabic translation of the Epistles of John.

Dr. Smith, the author of The Translators To The Readers and one of the final editors, is said to have had Hebrew at his fingers' ends. He was so conversant in Chaldee, Syriac, and Arabic that they were as familiar to him as English. His knowledge of the Greek and Latin fathers was exceptional. He was so versed in literature that he was characterized as a very walking library.

John Harmar of the Oxford company, was a noted scholar in Greek and Latin. He translated Calvin's sermons on the Ten commandments, several of Beza's sermons, and some of the Homilies of Chrysostom.

John Boys of the Cambridge group was one of the most distinguished scholars of all the translators. His father taught him Hebrew when he was five years old and he was admitted to St. John's College, Cambridge when he was fourteen. He was a most exact Greek grammarian who had read no less than sixty grammars.

Dr. John Reynolds, the Puritan who first suggested a new translation, had a reputation as a Hebrew and Greek scholar. He had read and studied all the Greek and Latin fathers, as well as the ancient records of the Church. Those who knew him held him to be the most learned man in England. It is said of him, that He alone was a well-furnished library, full of all faculties, all studies, and all learning. His memory and reading were near to a miracle. He worked on the translation of the Prophets until his death in 1607.

Henry Savile of the New Testament Oxford company was one of the most profound, exact, and critical scholars of his age. He became famous for his Greek at an early age. He is chiefly known as the first one to edit the complete works of John Chrysostom. Some have styled him, that magazine of learning, whose memory shall be honorable among the learned and the righteous forever.

No, these men were not ignorant. They were not even average. They were exceptional in their various areas of knowledge. The first half of the seventeenth century, when the translation was made, was the Golden Age of Biblical and oriental learning in England. Never before, nor since, have these studies been pursued by English scholars with such zeal and success. It is very doubtful that all the colleges of Great Britain and America could even bring together the same number of men who are equally qualified by learning and piety as the King James Version translators.

The procedure that was to bring together into one work the translations of all these various men and companies, was strictly set down for them. First of all, each translator was to individually work on a translation of the section. After that was done each man's work was brought to his company as a whole. Evidently the head of the company would read the passage from the Bishops' Bible. Whenever one of the translators wanted something changed or had something to say about the translation, he would present his own work.

In this way the work of each was compared with the others and the company as a whole worked out one translation. When each book of the Bible was finished, they would send it to each of the other five companies to be reviewed. If the later companies found anything objectionable, they would note such places and send it back to the originating company with their reasons. If there was a disagreement, it was to be settled by an editing committee later. If there was a passage that was especially difficult, all the learned men of the land could be called upon to make a judgment.

According to England's delegates to the Synod of Dort., after each company had finished their work they sent it to a committee comprised of two men from each company which reviewed and revised the whole work. Last of all Thomas Bilson and Miles Smith put on the finishing touches and had it printed.

THAT is a LOT of Cross Checking !!!!

It must be noted further that the King James Version translators were very concerned to have an accurate translation of the originals. They proclaim on the title page, Holy Bible, containing the Old Testament and the New: newly translated out of the original tongues... That proclamation is true. For these men have given us, for the most part, a word-for-word translation of the originals. They did not follow the principle of dynamic equivalence as do most translators today. Most modern versions are not word-for-word translations. One English word is not translated for one Greek or Hebrew word. Rather the ideas expressed in the originals are put into English. Dynamic equivalence is the method of translation whereby one translates the ideas but not necessarily the words. The King James Version translators did not use such a method. They translated word for word. Thus they have produced a very accurate and faithful translation as far as the original words are concerned.

They were so concerned about it that they even took over the very phraseology of the Hebrew and Greek. We find in our Bibles, all kinds of Hebrew expressions and concepts that are not natural to the English way of speaking. In fact, it can even be said that the English of the King James Version is not the English of the 17th century, nor of any century. It is an English that is unique, for it is Biblical English-an English formed by the Hebrew and Greek of the Bible. It is Biblical English because the translators were more interested in being faithful to the originals than in making their translation in the street language of the day, as do translators today.

That they sought an accurate translation is further indicated by the fact that they italicized every word that did not have a corresponding word in the original. How many modern Bible versions do that? Moreover, to insure the fact that the reader understands the meaning of certain original words, they added 4,223 marginal notes that gave the literal meaning of the original words, and 2,738 notes with alternate translations. The result is that in the King James Version we have an accurate translation that puts the others to shame.

Think on these things.

Even though the King James Version has its weaknesses, it is an excellent translation and by far the best version available today. We must not be taken in by the modern versions and their claims. Our 400 year old Bible is to be preferred above all others because it is better than them all.

1) It was translated by men who are unsurpassed in their knowledge of Biblical studies.

2) The translators were pious men of God who believed in the inspiration of the Holy Scriptures.

3) It is the mature fruit of generations of English translations as well as the careful work of its translators.

4) The King James Version is based upon the Received Text rather than the critical Greek text of modern versions.

5) It is a word-for-word translation which faithfully and accurately reflects the originals.

6) The language is one of reverence and respect which gives honor to the majesty of its Author.

7) Of all the English versions of today, it alone is the Bible of the Reformation.

8) Our spiritual forefathers thought so highly of it that they were willing to suffer and even die for it.

9) It is the version which has been recognized for generations and generations as the Bible God has given to His English-speaking Church.


This is why I say it one of the best translations we have today. There were older translations such as Wycliffe and Tyndale there has been no other translation that went through the process that the King James bible went through.

The Amplified Bible simply put in brackets the meaning of the orginal Hebrew and Greek words for greater clarity.

The NIV has complete missing texts. In other versions they have charged words that totally change the mean or in some cases even the DEITY of Jesus, so I dont use those versions...

So yeah the Hebrew Israelits attack the name of JESUS and the most accurate biblical text we have today..

yeah... um you think the enemy is involved ?

[auneeqsol]

Great Response.....GDD

And that was some pretty good info you gave.

Now remember I did say I did not agree with the hebrew israelite view of things, I did say that some of the info (history of the hebraic life, customs, etc.) was interesting and it just added to some things I already knew.

I did want to know your take tho on if you feel that the KJV captured the ideas, or expressions of the Hebrew and Greek original texts. You have explained that well I must say. Some things I knew about it, but some was very insightful.

But for the most part, yes I do see the enemy involved in this "movement". I still have friends that stayed with the ministry just because they felt that "Yahweh" will bring all things together in due time.

Now anybody, what is your take on African Americans (especially those that are descendants of slaves that came over during the transatlantic slave trade) being of Hebrew Descent?

[anointedteacher]

I have been going back and forth with some ppl on another board.... They believe that the Jews in Israel are not the real Jews, but are European who stole the idenity from the Black ppl... and they are occupying the Palestinians' land illegally...

Tell me your thoughts on this topic...

[zionisrael]

Before you put this church down as straight up idiots please understand that just like there are many groups whom call themselves Christians and hole different beliefs, there are various groups of Hebrew Israelites. Some believe only in the first five books of the Bible, other believe in Jesus and call him by his Hebrew name and others believe all the things that Christendom except that the true Hebrews are not the Europeans that sit in Israel now. Remember the scriptures say that Israel will be occupied by the Gentile until the end of the Gentile period.

My son wrote a paper on this subject and it was published in a book recently. I will give you parts of the essay if you are interested and it will eventually take you through most of the reasoning.

I do ask that you go home and begin to read the book of Isaiah in the light of his people are the Blacks in the united states. Also read Deut. 28 paying close attention to verse 68 about slave ships.

Here is the beginning of his paper. If you want more I will continue to post.


To: A Lost Nation

“The Plight of Yah’s People”
Hello my name is Algernon Hannah IV and I believe that I am being led by the spirit of Yahweh (God’s biblical Hebrew Name) to write you and all who are willing to listen. I want to begin my thesis with a few questions, when examining life, why is it that blacks, as we are known, seem to suffer far worse than any other race on the face of this planet? Why is it that we are only 12 percent of the population in the United States of America but behind all prison cells we make up half of the incarcerated population? How come it seems as if no matter what black leader arises (Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Marcus Garvey Haile Selassie etc...) we as a people cannot escape the captivity, subjugation and oppression enforced upon us? No matter what part of the earth one shall be led to it is obvious for him/her to see that our people are suffering from all kinds of ills whether it's Economically (poverty), Epidemics (HIV/AIDS etc...), Education (High school and College dropouts), Socially (families falling apart), and Spiritually, which is most imperative. I know that we are not the only race that suffers from these problems but we are the only ones that have suffered from these things the most, for the longest and it seems as time passes we are succumbing to these grotesque tassels more and more.

Everyday we enter the prison houses by the thousands, everyday we die due to Epidemics such as HIV/AIDS, Cancer, Heart attacks; High blood pressure and the list of diseases go on. Almost all diseases that are prevalent blacks top the charts as far as who is infected. We are dropping out of school at an alarming rate and unemployment for blacks is tremendously rising. In the New York Times March 20th, 2006 there is an article titled “Plight Deepens for Black Men, Studies Warn”, which states that in the inner cities alone throughout the US more than 50% of black males drop out of high school. There is something wrong with this picture. Other studies reveal as of now unemployment for black males in the US from the ages 16-65 is 50%, which is too high to even fathom without disturbing the psyche. A new study has shown that out of all children born in the US 20% are born out of wedlock but within the African American community 70% of our children are born out of wedlock; those numbers are really alarming too! In addition to that, a statistic has been taken that states that about 40% of blacks in the US are either in prison or have been in prison, whether these stats are exaggerated a little does not matter because we all know that a great deal of the people in the prison houses are black and that’s the TRUTH!

Blacks in the US, spread all throughout Africa and the outer corners of the earth, suffer from so many things including slavery, and if you did not know slavery still exists in Africa and America; South Africa with the diamond mines, the upper parts of Africa with the planting of the cacao bean and in the US the prisons are becoming privatized. This means that there are stocks on the goods produced by the inmates, henceforth the immense production of newer and bigger prison facilities.
My reasons for pointing out the easily recognizable dire conditions of Blacks are to reveal a parallelism between blacks and the biblical Hebrews. I want to go even further with my analysis and express how I believe the biblical Hebrews are not the ancestors of these White, European looking Jews who claim to be their descendants but in actuality WE are and later I will explain the necessity of knowing our long, lost, and forgotten heritage. I know that what I am exclaiming goes against what you have been taught but I am asking you to keep an open mind and allow Yahweh to give you understanding as He has given me over the years. When reading this you must have your bible open and ready to read in order to comprehend completely what Yahweh is trying to say.

To begin lets start with Genesis Chp 10 where Moshe (Moses’ name in Hebrew) establishes the true meaning of the word Gentile. For years we have been taught that the word Gentile means whoever is a non-Jew, if that were true then that would mean (Considering the fallacy that the Jews of today are who they claim they are) that all Blacks, Chinese, all Whites, Arabs, and all other creeds other than the so-called Jewish people are Gentiles. When reading the KJV bible very closely you will see that Moshe does not label all non-Jews/non-Hebrews, Gentiles. He starts the chapter displaying the genealogy of Noah and his three sons who repopulated the earth after the Great flood. Noah’s sons were Shem (the bloodline of the Hebrews), Ham (the bloodline of Egypt/Mizraim, Ethiopia/Cush, Libya/Phut and Canaan…etc), and Japheth (the bloodline of ALL EUROPEANS). Notice when reading the scriptures Moshe only refers to one group of people as Gentiles and that’s the children of Japheth. He does not call Ham or Shem’s children Gentiles but he distinctively calls Japheth and his children so. If the word Gentile means everyone who is not of the Hebrew bloodline (Shem’s children) then Moshe would have called Ham and his children Gentiles also but he didn’t. The reason is because the word Gentile only refers to the descendants of Japheth, and that’s the Europeans. I advise you to look up the dwelling places of Japheth’s children (Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshech, Tiras, Ashkenaz, Riphath, Togarmah, Elishah, Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim) and you will learn that all of his descendants dwelled in Europe and repopulated the earth from that region. (Notice that one of Japheth’s children was named Ashkenaz and those European Jews that come from Europe and migrate to Israel today call themselves Ashkenazi Jews, coincidence? I think not.) I hope I am not losing you because this is not the main reason why I am composing this letter but I use this to express that if we as learned people in regards to the bible could be misled about the meaning of the word Gentile then what else could we have been led astray to believe? To further prove the meaning of the word Gentile we must fast forward to the New Testament where Paul (Sha’uwl, his Hebrew Name), who was a Hebrew from the Tribe of Benjamin (Romans chp 11:1), and the apostle of the Gentiles (Europeans), composed certain books that we recognize as the books to the Gentiles. These books are Romans, Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, and finally Thessalonians. Once again I strongly recommend you to look up the locations of these places and you will learn that these were All European places. Rome-Italy, Corinth-Central Greece, Galatia-Central Asia Minor settled by the Celts and became a Roman province, Ephesus-ancient Greek city on the Western Shore of Asia Minor, Philippi-North-Central Macedonia Greece, Colossae-Ancient Phrygia which is Western and Central Asia Minor, and Thessaly-East-Central Greece. Do not take my word for it, research the places yourself and you will see that Paul only wrote books to European nations. My point is if the word Gentile really means all nations who are not Hebrew then Paul would have wrote books to the Egyptians who existed back then, the Ethiopians who were alive, the Samaritans, and all of the other non-Hebrew Nations that existed at that time. There is a reason why he only wrote books to European Nations and that’s because he was appointed by Yahshuah (Jesus’ Hebrew name) to be the apostle of the Gentiles (Romans chp 11:13), which really means apostle of Europeans, NOT NON-JEW!!! Please bare with me, I know that this is an extensive letter in length but I feel that Yahweh wants me to express every point vividly because this revelation is vital for the True Hebrew Nation to know.

I may reiterate points and ideas that you probably heard or considered but nevertheless they are essential for the message I am trying to convey. My question is do you really believe that the Jews of today are the true descendants of the biblical Hebrews?

In the scriptures, the Hebrews from time to time were mistaken as Ancient Egyptians and for those who may not know Egypt is in North East Africa and they were a black nation who looked like “Africans, and African Americans” of today. The Progenitor of the Egyptians was Ham and his name in the Egyptian language means black or brown and in the English World Dictionary Ham means brown, black, or warm. Now why would a white looking nation have a father whose name meant black? I know that the Egyptians of today may look really light and even white but that’s after centuries of migration, conquering which causes the mixing of blood, and colonialism. On the discovery channel they have revealed the paintings on the walls of the king’s tombs (hieroglyphics) and the Egyptians were always depicted as having brown and black skin. They showed how they excavated the tomb of the famous King Tut and he had a statue of himself and his skin color was Pitch black. History also proves that when Alexander the Great, who conquered many nations centuries ago, arrived in Egypt and saw the famous Sphinx statue (Pharaoh’s head with the Lion body) he was astonished when he realized the statue represented “Negroes”. The Greeks learned so much from the black Egyptians, so how do you think Alexander the Great felt when he got there and saw that his “Masters” were Black, Philosophical, Mathematical Thinkers. Also taken back by the discovery of the Black Egyptians was Napoleon and when he arrived to Egypt he had his soldiers shoot the nose off of the statue because it was big and wide like a black man’s is genetically.

Throughout the Bible the Hebrews were mistaken as the Egyptians a black nation, Why, because they obviously looked alike. If the Jews of today are the true descendants of the biblical patriarchs then how did their entire nation turn European looking when the biblical figures looked like the Black Ancient Egyptians?
The story of Moshe is an interesting one, which reinforces my point. (Exodus chp. 1:8-22) The Hebrews dwelled in Egypt for many years until Pharaoh made a decree to kill off all the Hebrew males because he realized that the Hebrew were an expeditiously growing nation and feared that they would eventually join alliances with Egypt’s enemies and vanquish them. While the Egyptians were killing the males of the Hebrews, Moshe’s mother, being a Hebrew, put her son in a basket and placed him in a river in the backyard of Pharaoh’s kingdom. Pharaoh’s daughter found the child and the scriptures state that she took Moshe in as her son (Exodus chp. 2:5-10). Moshe grew older and dwelled under the roof of Pharaoh until adulthood, now if Pharaoh made a decree to kill off all of the Hebrew males and let’s say that the Hebrews looked like the Jews of today (European) wouldn’t he immediately had Moshe killed when his daughter brought him in his home (Remember the Egyptians were a Black Nation)? The reason why Pharaoh did not notice that he was Hebrew was because Moshe had similar physical features as the Egyptians and was able to dwell among them as royalty. Pharaoh eventually enslaved all of the Hebrews and through the years Moshe began to learn of his nationality. One day he slew an Egyptian who was whipping on a Hebrew slave then fled to the desert. Now in the desert there were certain women who were trying to water their flock but were having trouble because some shepherds were antagonizing them (Exodus chp 2:15-17). Moshe ran the shepherds away and assisted the women with their flock and they returned home immediately. Look how the scriptures reveal the truth, in verses 16 through 19 of the same chapter the women ran home and told their father that an Egyptian helped us water the flock. “Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water and filled the troughs to water their father’s flock. And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moshe stood up and helped them, and watered their flock. And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day? And they said, An Egyptian delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.” Notice that they distinctively said “An Egyptian” they did not say Hebrew. Why, because the Egyptians looked like the Biblical Hebrews who were both Black skinned nations so they mistakenly labeled Moshe as an Egyptian when he really was Hebrew. To go even deeper to prove that Moshe did not look like the European looking Jews of today we shall move forward to chapters 3 and 4 of the same book (Exodus). Chapter 3 Yahweh appeared to Moshe in the form of a burning bush and informed him how Moshe will be a leader for the Israelites and lead them out of bondage. Moshe (chp. 4) doubted Yah and asked Him how he would convince the Hebrews to follow him. Yahweh therefore showed Moshe miracles that he could use to express the power of the Most High. Verses 5-7 I want to emphasize, Yahweh told Moshe to put his hand into his bosom and pull it out. The scriptures state that when he pulled his hand out of his bosom it was leprous as snow; manifesting a white hue. Then the very next verse Yahweh told Moshe to put his hand back in his bosom and it turned back to its original tone. Think about what just happened, Moshe’s hand turned white. If Moshe looked like the European Jews of today then what kind of miracle would it have been if a white man is told by the Most High to put his hand in his bosom then pull it out and it turns white. He had to be black in order for his hand turning white to be an amazing accomplishment.

to continue...

[giantsdodie]

This is the problem.. The assumption is often by many people is that black people are ignorant of their own cultural identity as it relates to biblical history.

The point isnt whether Moses was black or the Jews were black or Jesus was black yadda yaada yadda. The reality is that there always has been and there always will be people of color on the planet. We know Moses was a man of color. The Egyptians TODAY are a people of color of various hues from light to dark.

Science shows us very clearly that two people of medium reddish brown skin can produce EVERY color of people on the planet within one or two generations..

So in all honesty the long diatribe about Moses skin color is very much akin to the same stuff that I always hear from Hebrew israelits which is the attempt to teach people something about black people in the bible that they ASSUME that other people dont already know.

The issue isnt even recognizing our own culture and how GOD used and still uses people of color today. The PROBLEM occurs when ONE culture is EXALTED above all others and thats in both directions. The answer isnt a type of reverse racism or black nationalism.

There are a littany of books that have been written on this topic over the years. The Black Bible Chronicles, Black in the Bible, Royalty Without a Future and the African American Heritage Bible are just a few that teach GOD's history and plan detailing people of color in the bible.

The problem comes in when we exalt one culture above the culture of the KINGDOM. The problem occurs when we teach ERROR. The problem occurs when we SEPARATE instead of come together. The enemy LOVES a divided house because that house will NOT stand. The problem occurs when in an attempt to be CULTURALLY correct we stop using the name of JESUS and instead start using names that no power or authority was ever given to us in.

THAT is the problem

[anointedteacher]

What I consider as an error, when ppl teach that the black in US are the original Jews.... As we all know Africa is not a country, but a continent consist of different ppl with different culture, different language and different look.... Slaves came from different tribes... from what I know they wasn't practicing the Jewish religious or Christianity, but different forms of African religions...

I can agree that the Jews during the time of the Bible were ppl of color, may be not all of them. Remember they had different tribes and I believe each tribes was unique. I don't believe that the white man came in and rob the black of their religions as Jews and took on the African American slaves identities.... Yes, they robbed us of our identities and religion which was voodoo (most)...

MY question is who are the ppl in Israel? are the true or fake... God did promise to brink them back to Israel in the last day.

[zionisrael]

The problem is that you may not believe the scriptures. The Hebrews were to be known by the signs that Lord placed on them. The scriptures in Deut 28 describes the condition one would use to identify the Hebrews. No other race on the planet fits these scriptures. I find so much anger on this site because of this topic. It seems to me that the anger is pointing to the wrong place. Hebrews do not proclaim a great position because they are the original Jews but they are sad because we as a people will not come out from under this tragic condition until we return and ask for forgiveness for forsaking him. Read Deut 28, Joel, Isaiah and listen for the constant begging of the father for us to return. He says that he would make us jealous and be hatted by all people.

[anointedteacher]

Zionisrael your have so much anger because you need deliverance, calling ppl idiots is a turn off .... I didn't read pass that and not interested in what you have to say.... with such an attitude, why should I listen to you....

[keita]

PEACE AND BLESSINGS Y'ALL!!!

I, for one, have actually been watching, hoping and waiting for months for someone/anyone to bring the very truth and light zionisrael has brought to this thread.

Because between this thread and another very similar one, I was simply too appalled, disgusted and, I confess, ultimately too offended, to even bother being the one to "go there"... yet again.

Hence my self-imposed silent sabbatical.

And now comes the assurance that nevertheless, as always, Our Father has some "7000 more".

So even as this discussion seems to be heading in what is, imho, the same all too familiar direction, I just wanted to take a moment to sincerely thank you, zionisrael.

May YAHWEH richly bless and deeply encourage you and your son

just as HE already and certainly has done, and is doing, for me through your posts here.

WELCOME! ;D ;D ;D

[zionisrael]

I thank you for the positive response and may I say GODLY. I will continue to add additional pieces of the essay. I hope that it blesses someone. As you read, remember that we have been taught for years with a specific agenda and purpose and it is our responsibility to study the scriptures for ourselves. If this essay blesses one person then it is worth the effort to continue to post. Please find below the continuation of the essay.


Let’s jump to the New Testament again, and delve into the birth of Yahshuah (“Jesus”). (Matt Chp 2:1-15) When Yahshuah was born there was a king named Herod who heard about the prophecies of the Messiah and requested that the wise men find the baby and inform him of the location of Yahshuah so he could praise Him. However Yahweh knew that King Herod sought after Yahshuah to really kill Him so He sent one of His angels to warn Miriam and Yowceph (Mary and Joseph’s name in Hebrew) of King Herod’s plan for the Messiah and told them to take Yahshuah and flee to Egypt until King Herod died. WHY in the world would Yahweh, being the most Logical being to ever exist, tell Miriam and Yowceph to take their child to a place where nothing but Blacks dwelled to hide unless Yahshuah and his parents, who were Hebrew, were Black also? It would have been extremely easy for King Herod to find Yahshuah and his parents if they looked like the Jews of today hiding amongst black people in Africa. They had to look alike or Yahweh would have never suggested them to hide in Egypt He would have suggested a European location for the family to flee unto.

One more incident where a Hebrew was mistaken for being an Egyptian is in the Book of Acts where Paul who was a Hebrew of the tribe of Benjamin was being persecuted by a multitude of Hebrews because he taught lessons contrary to their laws and brought Greeks into their temple of worship. Pay very close attention to the scriptures, (Acts chp21:36-40) Paul was carried away by Greek soldiers and brought to the Greek’s chief captain. Paul then spoke to the captain in the Grecian language and the captain asked him in verse 37, “Canst thou speak Greek?” Next the captain asked, “Art not thou that Egyptian, which before these days madest an uproar?…” Here once again is the pattern of mistaken nationality in regards to the Hebrews and the Egyptians because they were nations that looked alike. There are other occurrences in the scriptures where the Hebrews were mistaken as Egyptians but I think these suffice as enough proof as to what color the Biblical Hebrews were. So now we know that just off of physical features alone the Jews of today are NOT the descendants of the biblical Hebrews, how could they be when the Biblical Hebrews were a Black Nation?

Let’s return to the Old Testament where Moshe led the Hebrews out of the severe bondage the Egyptians enforced upon them for numerous years. Moshe was supposed to lead them to the promise land (Canaan) of milk and honey and there Yisra’el (Israel in Hebrew) was to be the nation of Yahweh’s. Yahweh gave Moshe at Mt. Sinai Levitical Laws, the Ten Commandments and Statutes that the Hebrews were mandated to follow in order for them to be the most blessed nation in the world. Deuteronomy 28:1-13 lists all of the blessings that Yahweh promised the Nation of Yisra’el if they obeyed His laws and statutes. Yisra’el was supposed to be a nation similar to what America is today; the strongest, and wealthiest but also a Holy Nation. On the other hand, verses14-68 of Deut. lists all of the curses that Yahweh would place upon Yisra’el if they walked contrary to His laws and statutes.

Unfortunately the Hebrews did stray from Yahweh’s laws and He poured out His fury upon the Nation of Yisra’el. I want to point these curses out to reveal who the True Descendants of the Biblical Hebrews are. The list of the curses is very long so I will point out most of them but I assure you that all of the curses pertain only to a certain people (Blacks of today scattered abroad throughout the world). While reading the curses I want you to keep in mind that the Biblical Hebrews were a Black Nation.

We will go through Deut. Chp. 28:16-to the end of the chapter, verses 16-19 states “cursed shall Yisra’el be in the city, the field, cursed shall be thy basket and thy store, cursed shall be the fruit of thy body (children) and the fruit of thy land. Cursed shall Yisra’el be when they comest in and cursed shall they be when they goest.” Here Yahweh is stating that Yisra’el will be cursed in the field and the city, in other words no matter where Yisra’el is located, the Suburbs, Rural or Urban areas they will be a cursed people. Blacks all over the world whether they are in the field or in the city areas seem to be cursed, our neighborhoods are in the worst conditions, we fight amongst each other and the authorities hold no true respect for us no matter where we live. Yahweh also stated that Yisra’el will be cursed in the Basket and the Store, meaning that Yisra’el will be cursed when it comes to Economical Standards. This is really true when we look at the conditions of blacks in America. Think about your neighborhood right now, and count how many black enterprises exist. First of all the number of black owned enterprises are limited and the ones that do exist are rarely successful when compared to other races’ enterprises. The black owned businesses suffer from robbery and destruction much quicker than the other non-black owned places. Here are some facts quoted from Tavis Smiley, a brother who has an informative show on C-SPAN, in regards to African American’s current economic standings. “There are no black owned companies on the Wall Street Stock Exchange; where blacks own the majority or controlling interest of the stock.”

“In 1860, 98% of all Blacks in America worked for White people. In 2001, 98% of all Blacks in America still work for white people.” “In 1860, blacks in America had a combined net worth of one half of 1 percentage point. Guess what, in 2001, after Civil Rights, Jesse Jackson, Oprah, Shaq, NAACP, and Urban League, our combined net worth is half a percentage point.” How come this is the case? Because Yahweh said that Yisra’el would be cursed in regards to their Stores and Baskets. In verse 18 He says that the Hebrews would have children who will be cursed (fruit of thy body) and the fruit of their land will be cursed. Look at blacks all over, our children seem to be cursed at birth due to all of the ills (poverty, diseases, prisons, oppression, subjugation etc…) awaiting them. Verse 20 states that Yahweh will send cursing, vexation and rebuke in all things Yisra’el set their hands on to do, meaning that no matter what the Hebrews set their hands on to accomplish they will overall be cursed, hence no Prosperity! This is really ubiquitous when looking at blacks, especially in the United States. Whatever avenue we plan to travel down to seek success we fail as a people. Don’t get me wrong there are successful blacks in this country and all over; there are always exceptions to a rule but overall blacks as a nation are the least in regards to success. For every ball player or actor/actress that is black and is successful that you can point out, I in return can point out hundreds of thousands of blacks that are starving from food deprivation, incarcerated, diseased stricken with fatal illnesses and so on.

Tavis Smiley’s previous quote on Blacks net worth says it all about our success and economical progress. Let’s continue with the curses, Duet. 28:25 “Yahweh shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all kingdoms of the earth.” These scriptures are self-explanatory, Yahweh claims that Yisra’el’s enemies will defeat them and scatter them across the world. Verses 28-30 are even more descriptive, “Yahweh shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.” Here we have a nation that has been cursed with madness (insanity) and they are a blind nation, blind meaning a nation without a vision. Not knowing where to go or what to do to be prosperous. Examine the conditions of our brothers and sisters everywhere we exist. We don’t have a vision the only thing we can see that seems suitable for us is the entertainment industry. Every young black child in our neighborhoods desire to play some sport or pursue some sort of a music career. In regards to education we simply have no desire and it’s really a destructive way of thinking. Don’t get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with playing a sport professionally or pursing a music career but that is not the only thing us Blacks are able to do in order to make it out of the perilous hands of poverty. Back to the curses, in verse 29 Yahweh says that Yisra’el will be a non-prosperous nation and they will be “only oppressed” and “spoiled” (robbed) evermore. Once again look at us, do we seem Oppressed, do we seem Non-prosperous as a whole, and do we seem like a Robbed people? The answer is extremely evident, and it’s YES!!! Our windows of opportunities are miniscule compared to other races here in America and that’s because we’re a robbed people that lack a vision.

Think of the times of the Atlantic Slave Trade; the worst Holocaust committed on any race of people. Now let’s read part of the same verse, Duet. Chp. 28:30 “Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.” The Hebrews shall marry wives but other men shall lie with them. Did this not happen during slavery times? Our ancestors married wives but their oppressors savagely raped them; desensitizing the love our men have for our women. We built the entire economy for most of the world through slavery, hence, fulfilling the prophecy, “Thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein…”. Verse 32 states “Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand.” I read a book by a slave called the Slave Narrative where the author expresses his experiences’ of slavery and how the Europeans/Gentiles came over to Africa and took any African they saw, including children. In addition to that, during the Slave Trade one Slave Driver would buy a family’s children and another would purchase their parents so the Hebrews witnessed their offspring being snatched from them as they watched with “failing eyes”. Verses 33-34, “The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.” Again Yahweh is saying that the Hebrews will be an “oppressed” Nation and He goes further and says, “Crushed always.”

Let’s read on because Yahweh gets more descriptive than this. Verses 36-37, “Elohim shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither Elohim shall lead thee.” Here Yahweh is saying that He will bring the Hebrews to a Nation that neither they nor their forefathers ever knew and there they will serve other gods other than Yahweh. Next He says that the Hebrews would become an Astonishment, a Proverb, and a Byword wherever Yahweh led them. The meaning of the words Proverb and Byword at that time in the scriptures meant ignominious, derogatory titles, for example Coon, Pica ninny, black person, Negro, and Spook…etc. Verses 41-44, “Thou shalt begat sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail. Yahweh warned them of the captivity awaiting their children if they were disobedient. In verses 43-44 He stated that the strangers residing among the Hebrews would progress higher than them and the Hebrews would fall lower and lower. These strangers would lend to the Hebrews but the Hebrews would not lend to them.

Witness how the prophecies unfold right in front of us everyday and we haven’t noticed them or at least understood why certain things were. Just ponder on our neighborhoods, and ask yourself who owns what in our communities? Can you see all of the strangers migrating to America and opening shops and businesses and lending to us? And how we don’t lend to these strangers? All of these foreigners come here and have success opening up a business in our neighborhoods. The Asians have their food stores; nail shops, and other enterprises that they lend to us Hebrews on a daily basis. The Arabs have the convenient stores, 711 for example, and the gas stations etc, and these European/ Gentile Jews own almost all of the world’s wealth. They own the federal banks, they own Hollywood, they own the media, and all of the major music labels which we sell our souls in order to catch a deal. They own the Diamond mines in South Africa where blacks are forced to mine the caves. The strangers lend to Yahweh’s children all of the time. When you need a loan who do we run to, the banks who are mostly owned by the Jews. We have been here in America just as long as White people and we still own very little businesses. Verses 45-46, “Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of Yahweh, to keep his commandments and His statutes which He commanded thee: And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed (offspring) for ever. Yahweh is saying that these curses will destroy Yisra’el and be upon them and their children FOREVER for a SIGN and a WONDER. If these curses were placed on all of Yisra’el and their children forever then we should be able to point out the descendants of Yisra’el in these modern times by noticing who suffers from the curses. Verse 48 “Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which Yahweh shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.” During the Atlantic slave trade the Gentiles put yokes of Iron around our ancestor’s necks, transported them to many countries and forced them to work/serve them in their nakedness.

[kitty]

hhhhhmmmmm.....

Let's be honest here... while there may be some great similarities here... I don't think Black people or specifically African American people are a part of the original jews. The post above speaks specifically to Black people in the United States and it would really have to speak towards those who are African and also in Africa because God didn't separate us. In God's eyes we are not a different set of people than our brothers and sister in Africa.

Secondly... for all the areas that may be similar... there is one MAJOR one that definitely is NOT."Verses 36-37, “Elohim shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. "

If we want to speak about African-Americans and it appears to me that the post above is specifically about Blacks in the U.S. then let the record stand that WE as a MAJORITY have ALWAYS BEEN CHRSTIAN.... Thus NOT serving other gods wood or stone! We haven't gotten off into wicca or yoga or any other pagan religion they other groups here in the U.S. have so that again doesn't really apply to us...

Lastly.... Does anyone really NEW ever come here to this web page and post soooo much on just one topic? I smell a rat! Shame on who ever it is!

Kitty

[zionisrael]

As I mentioned when I first started to post that this was an essay that was written by my son. I wanted you to see a portion of the evidence that is being presented by the Hebrew Israelites. I never really understand why we black Christians have such a problem with this information. Our beliefs are the same as yours except that we believe that the bible teaches that Gentiles are Europeans from the Islands of the Gentiles (Genesis Chapter 10, the table of nations KJV) and are the children Japheth and not Shem. And that the Jews converted to Judaism around 761 AD. We believe that we are not Gentiles. I am a Hebrew Israelite and I consider you as my brothers and sisters in our Savior Jesus Christ. I found your post when I was doing a simple query on Hebrew Israelites which is a common query of mine. I found the topic amazing and had never heard of an entire church converting at the same time. In reference to the information being discuss is addressing the Blacks in America is only one topic because we are the tribe of Juda. There are other articles that address the other 11 twelve tribes. I am not a rat and I used to call myself a Christian for over 20 years. Please read the information in its entirety and then pass judgement. Our people are in this condition because as the scriptures tell us "Our leaders cause us to error".

Essay continued.


At this point I want you to picture the geographical location of the United States of America compared to Egypt and the rest of Africa where the Israelites migrated to since the death of Yahshuah. America is on the other side of the earth far from Yisra’el and Africa, now with that in mind let’s read Verses 49-50, “Yahweh shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth, a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; a nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young… See how descriptive the Most High was with the children of Yisra’el, He said a nation from far, from the end of the earth and swift like an eagle, now I ask you what is the symbol of the United States of America? If you don’t know take a look at the currency you posses and notice what bird sits on the back of your quarters or the back of your one-dollar bills. It’s an Eagle, which is the bird the founding fathers of this country chose to represent the United States. It’s also the same symbol Yahweh used to describe the Nation that is far from Yisra’el and Africa that would come and enslave the Hebrews. Open your eyes to the truth and understand who you are and what happened to our people.
Verses 58-61, “If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, Yahweh thy Elohim, then Yahweh will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. Moreover He will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will Yahweh bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.” What kind of sicknesses and plagues, what kind of diseases of LONG CONTINUANCE? In this entire world who suffers from the highest rate of sickness and diseased infections, especially HIV/AIDS? Blacks all over the world are infected and suffer from diseases the most. We have the highest HIV/AIDS infectious rate, which is definitely a disease of Long Continuance! We have the highest heart attack rates, we suffer the most from high blood pressure, cancer, sickle cell, and the list goes on and on. Here are some facts from different Health sources stating the devastating health conditions of Africans and African Americans. “In 2003, the most recent year for which national census estimates are available, Blacks* accounted for just 12.8 percent of the U.S. population but 49.3 percent of estimated AIDS cases. At the end of 2003, it was estimated that 42.4 percent of people living with AIDS in the United States were Black, reflecting a continued increase over previous years.3 The AIDS rate (the number of people living with AIDS per 100,000 individuals) was 58.2 for Blacks, compared with 14.5 for the total U.S. population. 59.9 percent of all females living with AIDS at the end of 2003 were Black. Heterosexual contact was the HIV exposure category for 64 percent of those cases.” (January 2005 Fact Sheets article from the Health Resources and Services Administrations HRSA). “The latest US Centers for Disease Control report1 on the US epidemic found that in 2004, 73% of all people diagnosed with AIDS were male. Within the African American population, men represent 65% of all AIDS cases. Overall, 13,833 black men were diagnosed with AIDS in 2004, compared to 11,157 white men, 7,090 Hispanics, 395 Asian/Pacific Islanders and 148 Native Americans. In the epidemic as a whole in 2004, black men made up 42% of all AIDS diagnoses in men.” (Avert Article on HIV and AIDS found at http://www.Avert.org) Remember Blacks make up only 12% of the U.S. population compared to Whites who are roughly 70%. Another article written on the Aids epidemic in Africa states, “AIDS kills some 6,000 people each day in Africa, which amounts to more deaths than caused by wars, famines and floods. Africa is home to 70% of the adults and 80% of the children living with HIV in the world.” (Salaam October article found at www.salaam.co.uk/index). 6,000 Africans a day die from Aids that’s 42,000 per week and 168,000 a month, again, coincidence, or more like prophecy unfolding? Verses 62-67 Yahweh reiterates how He will scatter the children of Yisra’el all over the world and how they will find no peace wherever they are forced to migrate to. Verse 68 at the end of the chapter is very important, pay close attention to prophecy. “And Yahweh shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen (slaves) and bondwomen, and no man shall buy (save) you.” If you have read the entire bible you’ll notice that after the Hebrews left Egypt through the parting of the Red Sea they never went back into captivity in Egypt because Yahweh promised Moshe that he would never let them see Egypt again, therefore Egypt in verse 68 must be symbolic. I did some heavy research comparing the captivity of the Hebrews in Egypt under pharaoh and the slavery we experienced on the Western Hemisphere, and it was extremely identical. To begin Ancient Egypt was the Super power at that time and the United States was and still is the Super power that enslaved us. The Hebrews help build some of the Egyptian Empires; they molded bricks the Egyptians used to build pyramids and they tilled the crops by the Nile River all while Egyptian taskmasters stood over them with whips. The Egyptians forced free labor upon the Hebrews. Look at our holocaust here on this side of the earth, no matter what part of the “New World” we were sent to slavery was the same for us. Whether it was the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, Colombia, Puerto Rico, The West Indies, Britain, North or South America, we cultivated the fields and built the empires that stand till this day and received not a dime for the work we put forth. So Yahweh put us in ships and sent us to “Egypt”, the New Egypt and allowed our enemies to sell us as slaves. Those European Jews were never put in any slave ships and sold as slaves. There is NO legitimate documentation that proves that the Jews were ever put on ships, transported across the world and sold as slaves.
All throughout the bible Yahweh listed curses that He placed upon the Nation of Yisra’el, and they are the identifying mark of the descendants as I stated before. Deuteronomy is just one of the books that manifest the curses, there are more that we shall explore.
Turn to the prophet Isaiah chp. 42:18-25 and lets see what else Yahweh has done to this disobedient Nation. “Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see. Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as Yahweh’s servant? Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. Yahweh is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; He will magnify the law, and make it honourable. But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore. Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come? Who gave Ya’aqob for a spoil, and Yisra’el to the robbers? did not Yahweh, He against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law. Therefore He hath poured upon him the fury of His anger, and the strength of battle: and it hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it burned him, yet he laid it not to heart.” He said that Yisra’el is a robbed people and they are snared in holes and hid in prison houses. Robbed person seems almost like an understatement, we have been robbed of our dignity, robbed of our heritage, culture, and robbed of our birthplace. Let’s look into the prisons houses where we seem to “live”. We all know that blacks are the majority of the people in the prison houses. Like previously stated, we are only 12 percent of the population in the United States but of the population of correctional facilities we comprise of 43% of those incarcerated. That means almost half of all inmates are black while the other half consist of all other races. In the Atlanta daily World article, August 2001, by Earl Ofari Hutchinson, Titled “No Slowdown in Prison Boom for Blacks” states, “The bad news is the new window of public enlightenment on crime and punishment remains tightly closed for Blacks. They now make up nearly half of the more than 2 million persons behind bars. According to the Justice Department report, 10 percent of all Black males between ages 25 and 29 are in federal and state prisons. The rate is three times greater than that for Latino males, and 10 times higher than for White males.” This is prophecy fulfilling in these modern times.
Let’s turn to another prophet that reveals other curses. Jeremiah chp 17:1-4 says, “The sin of Yahudah is written with a pen of iron, and with the point of a diamond: it is graven upon the table of their heart, and upon the horns of your altars; Whilst their children remember their altars and their groves by the green trees upon the high hills. O my mountain in the field, I will give thy substance and all thy treasures to the spoil, and thy high places for sin, throughout all thy borders. And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.” Yahweh punished us for our disobedience and cursed us by taking away our heritage and causing us to serve our enemies in a land, which we never knew prior to arrival (The Americas). Almost every black person that is here in the Unites States has no true heritage. Think about yourself right now, your family tree begins with probably your grandparents, some of us our great grandparents but that’s it; we have no heritage due to slavery when our ancestors were taken from their homeland and sold to other slave drivers. Even those of us that are from the Islands who seem to have stronger family ties than “African Americans” and practice quaint traditions are missing a true heritage, because Black people are from the Eastern Hemisphere, we are not from the so-called “New World”, the Western Hemisphere. Every other race in the world know who they are and where they come from, like the Chinese come from China, the Japanese come from Japan, and the French come from France and so on, but what about us? We have now been given the title of African American, but that’s not a sufficient ethnic title because Africa has over 40 countries, what part of Africa are you from? We have no clue because Yahweh cursed us by taking away the heritage He gave us through the allocation of slavery. If you don’t know where you come from then you won’t know where you are going in life.
Also from the induction of the Baseless Heritage curse, our oppressors made it their agenda to erase our history in order to successfully keep us subjugated. That’s why when we arrived here as slaves we were separated if we spoke the same language and we were killed if the slave masters heard or saw us speaking in any language other than English. They would also kill the slaves if they practiced anything from African culture. In return they told us that we had no history and insisted that we came from a people that were destined to be slaves. Furthermore the Slave Masters taught us that Yahweh ordained them to enslave us and that salvation does not free us from physical slavery it only frees us from sin. Here is an excerpt, from a Bishop from London who was a Slave holder preaching a sermon to the slaves, taken from the Book Titled, The Black Christ, by Kelly Brown Douglas, “Christianity, and the embracing of the Gospel does not make the least Alteration in Civil Property, or in any of the Duties which belong to Civil Relations; but in all these Respects, it continues Persons just in the same State as it found them. The Freedom which Christianity gives, is a Freedom from the Bondage of Sin and Satan, and from the Dominion of Men’s Lust and Passion and inordinate Desires; but as to their outward Condition, whatever that was before, whether bond or free, their being baptized and becoming Christians, makes no matter of Change in it”. (Douglas pgs 16-17).
Let’s go beyond slavery times to the Time of Alexander the Great who burned all of the libraries in Egypt when he found out that the Egyptians were Africans. He didn’t want the world to come to the knowledge that the Egyptians were of African origin. During my studies I used to wonder all the time why Europeans, especially the Jews of today adamantly exclaim that the Ancient Egyptians were Europeans or of any ethnicity other then black better yet African. They even go to the extent of teaching this in school systems and televise this erroneous belief on all of the history channels. During my researching I had an epiphany, they did this in order to expunge the heritage of Yah’s chosen seed; Yisra’el. If they could make the world believe that the Egyptians were European, knowing the fact that the Ancient Hebrews looked like the Egyptians then those European Jews could continue to claim our heritage. This too was prophesized. Psalms chp 83:1-4 states, “Keep not thou silence, Elohim: hold not thy peace, and be not still, Elohim. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Yisra’el may be no more in remembrance.” Mitigating our heritage to the point where the name of Yisra’el was forgotten allowed these Europeans to come in during 740 AD under the title as Jews and claim Hebrew kinship, a fact of history that I will reveal to you in the next letter coming shortly after this one titled “The Origin of the European Jews (Japheth’s children)”.
Do those European Jews of today seem cursed or are they one of the most prosperous nations of today? They own almost all of the Federal Banks, they own Hollywood, they own the Media in America, and they own the Diamond Mines in South Africa, in addition to the small communities they have in Brooklyn and other places where they have their own schools and businesses that flourish. These Jews are only 5% of the World’s population but they own about 50% of the world’s wealth, they don’t seem cursed!!! Black people, on the other hand, seem cursed. The curses are too exact to say that they don’t apply to us, and too exact to say that the European looking Jews are the true descendants of ancient Yisra’el.
The important thing to note of our conditions is that we need to stop blaming white people for our punishment. Making excuses, especially us BROTHERS that the “White Man” made us like this are just inept expressions that allow us to give up and sulk in our plight. Don’t get me wrong, I was like that at one point of my life and it’s because of ignorance that we think the Europeans are responsible for our failure as a Nation. Yes, Yahweh did use them as a catalyst to incite the curses but they are not the blame, we are. For our disobedience we were chastised; as Yahweh’s holy seed we were suppose to bring the scriptures and oracles of Yah to the rest of the world, yet we didn’t. Yisra’el kept on breaking Yah’s laws and commandments. Throughout the scriptures, our ancestors, the Israelites, were disobedient until Yahweh was so furious that He poured out the curses of the Law upon us. Daniel chp 9:11, “Yea, all Yisra’el have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moshe the servant of Yahweh, because we have sinned against him.”
I know after hearing all of this it seems as if our chances are dismal, our future looks dim and there is no hope for our people. Contrary to those thoughts are the reasons why I have composed this entire letter addressed to the Lost Holy Seed of Yahweh. There is a way to remove these curses and return back in favor with the Most High. Fortunately for us, our creator is Merciful and He promised our forefathers that He would never forget His chosen people, despite the fact that He knew we would fall short of His commandments. Repentance and Restoration is the key. Turn to Leviticus Chp 26 to find out how we were instructed to return and repent unto the Father. Now similar to Deuteronomy, Leviticus lists the blessings and curses that Yahweh would pour upon Yisra’el depending on their obedience. Verses 1-13 are the blessings and verses 14 to the end of the chapter list the curses, but near the end of the list of curses Yah let’s the Nation know how they could remove the curses and be restored unto the Most High. Starting from verse 38 and finishing at the end of chapter 26, Yah states, “And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them. If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: Then I will remember my covenant with Ya’aqob, and also my covenant with Yitschaq, and also my covenant with Av’raham will I remember; and I will remember the land. The Land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her Shabbats, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised My judgments, and because their soul abhorred My statues. And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break My covenant with them: for I am Yahweh their Elohim. But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their Elohim: I am Yahweh.” In verse 40 Yah gave us the formula, He said that if we confess of our iniquities and the iniquities of our forefathers and then accept of our punishment then He would remember the covenant He made with our ancestors. The only problem is that in these modern times we don’t know who we are and the reason why we have been punished like this, so how could we confess of our sins, our father’s sins and accept of our punishment when we are blind to the truth.
The Great news is that the time has come for the curses to be removed and us black people be restored back unto Yah. Messages like this one are spreading throughout the world and us blacks will wake up and be recognized as Yah’s holy seed again. For it was written in Deuteronomy Chp. 30:1-3, “And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither Yahweh thy Elohim hath driven thee, and shalt return unto Yahweh thy Elohim, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; that then Yahweh thy Elohim will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all nations, whither Yahweh thy Elohim hath scattered.”
I don’t want anyone to misconstrue this message as being racist, bias or seem as if I am saying that salvation is only for black people because that is NOT the case. Salvation through Yahshuah the Messiah is for all races, creeds and colors of men, but the word states that Salvation is for the Hebrews first (Romans chp 1:16) which are the chosen ones who were given the responsibility of bringing the word of Yah unto the rest of the world. Therefore He cursed us and only us until we return as his chosen ones for it was also written in Amos chp 3 stating, “Hear this word that Yahweh hath spoken against you, O children of Yisra’el, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying, you only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.”.
To all readers if you have any questions, comments and are interested in attending meetings and open forums we hold that focus on the enlightenment of our people, please email this address: [e-mail] We will definitely get back to you as soon as possible. Our focus is the restoration of Yah’s people. It’s time for us to return to the Father, Yahweh.
POWER TO YAH’S PEOPLE

SHALOM





Acknowledgement Page
Give thanks to Yahweh in the name of Yahshuah the Messiah
Without Him I would not have been able to write this
My entire Family, you know who you are, Love ya’ll
Obadiyah Ysrayl keep up the hard work-www.hebrewisraelites.org
Rudolphf R. Windsor the author that started me on this journey
Kelly Brown Douglas informative writings on Slave Christianity
Brother Cummings Teaching me a Great deal about Ancient Israel
And all of my friends that showed support:
Too many of you guys to name all, but you know whom you are
Thanks for everything and may Yah continue to bless you!!!

[Nikkol]

@zion:

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved .
1) do we agree that the above-mentioned scripture is referring to Jesus?

2) Do you believe that God wants us to focus on race for being "empowered"?

Side Note: In Philly we have different groups of hebrew Israelites who stand on the corner and their sole purpose is to talk about how black people are the real Jews. Nothing about salvation for the world (John 3:16) or even that whether you're a Jew or Gentile, we can all receive the benefits of being a child of the King...