Yolanda Adams Morning Show

[Nikkol]

I was flipping past Praise 1039 where they host the Yolanda Adams morning show and they read an email by this one lady that wanted them to get rid of Marcus D Wiley (the comedian) because she said that he wasn't filled with the HS yet and thought the show would be better without him....

My issue wasn't really what was said by the lady but their response. They wanted to say you couldn't tell if he was filled and used the fact that when he comes in the office he takes out his bible and reads (as if a person that reads the Bible is an indication that a person is saved). Then they said that he likes to make ppl laugh and you have to separate, (YES THEY SAID SEPARATE) between him and his comedy. Now I don't have a problem with comedy...but what I think the woman was trying to point out was that some of his comedy, on something that is considered a Christian radio show, isn't very Christian-like.

I guess my question/discussion is about the state of the church when we try to separate between what a person does and their walk with Christ?

[teebee]

Yes, like is it possible to be a saved bartender or stripper? I don’t doubt that there may be someone somewhere who got saved while they still held jobs as bartenders or strippers BUT I believe if they are truly saved, yielding to the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and receiving sound teaching that AT SOME POINT they will find other jobs. Just MHO.

As for Marcus, I think “the Bishop” skit is funny and as most comedians do he states out loud what folks usually THINK but won’t say. No, I don’t think we should get in the habit of separating what folks DO from who they ARE unless there’s some excuse for it as stated above which reminds me of something I heard my pastor say. He was speaking of how the blood of Jesus cleanses us from sins even after we become Christians. However, we shouldn’t feel that it gives us the LICENSE to sin. He said to think of it as car insurance which you have JUST IN CASE you get in an accident. One does not go out and get in accidents everyday and if you do, you really need to turn in your license because something is wrong.

Also, there is a difference between saved and Sprit-filled. I believe there are millions of Christians who are saved but are not Spirit-filled and are very spiritually immature. They are babes in Christ for years on end. Then there are some who are merely faithful “church goers” and are not Christians at all. I believe it takes discernment to know who’s who.

[Nikkol]

I don't agree with it being called "Bishop Secular". If we're suppose to be coming out from among the world and being separate, why put a biblical title in front of what we should be coming out of.

Granted, there are some funny things and I'm not against being able to laugh...

You bring up an insteresting point which is probably a different discussion....Can you be saved and not filled with the spirit? I don't think I can agree with that...

[anointedteacher]

I got saved before I actually receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost..... so YES you can be saved and not be filled.... Many Christians who received salvation have not been filled with the Holy Spirit... What is troubling when a person come to Christ and didn't speak in tongue, is told they are not saved, cause they don't have the Holy Ghost.... When you make a decision to receive Christ, you also receive the Holy Spirit.... you make not be filled or baptized, but you have the Holy Spirit.... We are baptized into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit.... Jesus Baptize us in the Holy Spirit.... and man baptize us with water

[teebee]

I agree that it takes the Holy Spirit to be saved. The Bible says that we are drawn by the Holy Spirit so I did not intend to imply that one can be saved and not HAVE the Holy Spirit in his/her life. When I say Spirit-filled, I also mean Spirit-baptized. In my vernacular, they mean the same thing—filled with the Holy Spirit as demonstrated in the book of Acts with unknown tongues and/or power. It may not be CORRECT to use the terms synonymously, but I do. That’s my COGIC background creeping up. I understand that one must be saved first and then receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Some people insert a separate distinct experience called “sanctification” in between the 2 experiences of “salvation” and “baptism in the Holy Spirit” but I have never understood what the distinct “experience” of sanctification equated to. I can’t point to a specific date and time of sanctification in my own life but can point to a specific date and time of salvation and baptism in the Holy Spirit. Like you said, this would amount to a whole ‘nother discussion. :-)