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Post by Nikkol on Feb 29, 2008 16:48:04 GMT -5
It's found HERE. Here's a small excerpt That stench—horribly foul, like excrement sprinkled with cheap, rosy perfume. It had been 24 years since she smelled it last, but the odor was unmistakable. Someone had spread powder all over Joy's front porch. That's where the odor was coming from.
She refused to touch it. Rain would wash the powder away. But the memories it brought back to her wouldn't go—the fragmented images of a brutal attack.
His black tasseled loafers. His thick glasses. The long wooden objects draped in a red towel he set on the floor.
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Post by keita on Feb 29, 2008 21:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 1, 2008 18:07:33 GMT -5
The preacher no longer hobnobs with national COGIC leaders. The new presiding bishop, Charles E. Blake, suspended him from all pastoral duties last year shortly after taking office. Allen didn't put up with the suspension for long; according to Charisma magazine, he produced documents showing that his church had never been officially chartered as a COGIC congregation. Therefore, he informed Blake, he is not subject to COGIC discipline.
So there really nothing the COGIC can do to him... He never was a real COGIC, he just was the name to gain popularity and to get close to some of the well known bishops.... He a scam... I wonder how much did Bishop Owen (my former pastor in NJ) and Bishop Patterson know about his man. That mean any snake can slip it way to the pulpit.
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 5, 2008 12:11:47 GMT -5
Now isn't this something. All these years this man has been operating under the "umbrella" of COGIC when in actuality he isn't even chartered. I am absolutely sure both bishops knew. I do believe Bishop Patterson was addressing this issue before he got ill.
However His Jurisditional bishop, and other pastors in the community could have EASILY had him removed from the pulpit.
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 5, 2008 13:58:10 GMT -5
Haynes' response, according to Drake: "Old habits die hard."
Could Haynes have disciplined Allen? As his jurisdictional bishop, Haynes outranked Allen, a pastor. The Kelly and Drake lawsuits accuse COGIC of being negligent in their dealings with Allen, since church officials had known about the paddling allegations for many years. But several COGIC sources who spoke to the Observer said Haynes' authority, in reality, was limited. COGIC pastors have considerable autonomy in their own churches. The COGIC Official Manual allows Haynes to call a "trial" for Allen, but only if a majority of the members of his church document wrongdoing and "file charges" against him with his bishop. The meeting with Drake and two other meetings the Observer learned about appear to resemble the trial procedure outlined in the manual. If any action was taken against Allen, however, it did not involve removing him from the pulpit. Bishop Owens, the former COGIC presiding bishop, says Haynes never brought the allegations to the denomination's general board, of which Haynes is a member.
It look like Bishop Haynes decided to brush it under the rug... "Old Habits Die Hard" what type of remark is that?
Even though, didn't brought the allegation to the board, did they know about it?....
As I read the remark about Bynum.... what happen to her was an attack from those demon in that church.... She picked up something was wrong. This was posted on another thread... but reading the whole thing... Now I see and understand what happen to her.
While anguished men and women surged toward Bynum at the front of the church, Allen made a move of his own. He walked out of the sanctuary and shut himself in his private office
Pentecostal prophets would come and go all the time at Shiloh, taking the pulpit while Allen was traveling or presiding over special services. Did they discern anything unusual about the man who blessed them with fat checks? Former Shiloh members say some did, like Bynum, and they didn't appear again.
Everybody wasn't blind.... they didn't picked up everything that was going on, but they new something wasn't right and left and never returned....
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 5, 2008 15:25:30 GMT -5
Now isn't this something. All these years this man has been operating under the "umbrella" of COGIC when in actuality he isn't even chartered. I am absolutely sure both bishops knew. I do believe Bishop Patterson was addressing this issue before he got ill. However His Jurisditional bishop, and other pastors in the community could have EASILY had him removed from the pulpit. Jasmine, I really don't believe Bishop Patterson was going to touch this issue....remember Allen married Bishop Patterson's secretary.... I am not going to go to deep with this subject because i personally know these people........ I just really pray for his new wife...... |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 5, 2008 15:31:35 GMT -5
Now isn't this something. All these years this man has been operating under the "umbrella" of COGIC when in actuality he isn't even chartered. I am absolutely sure both bishops knew. I do believe Bishop Patterson was addressing this issue before he got ill. However His Jurisditional bishop, and other pastors in the community could have EASILY had him removed from the pulpit. Jasmine, I really don't believe Bishop Patterson was going to touch this issue....remember Allen married Bishop Patterson's secretary.... I am not going to go to deep with this subject because i personally know these people........ I just really pray for his new wife...... true, I remember. I..well, we know alot concerning this issue..many folks did, but its a shame that nobody said anything. And now people want to criticise davina kelly for talking to the authorities, and media. All those invididuals who "fellowshipped" with him on a regular was not stupid, and new what was up with him. COGIC should have cleaned house a LONG time ago. |
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 5, 2008 16:05:46 GMT -5
She need to run!!! I am sorry, but this is scary.. to be marry to a warlot (sp)
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