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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 30, 2008 7:35:49 GMT -5
Missing NY rev. found at Ohio strip club Sat Mar 29, 1:50 PM ET
RIVERSIDE, Ohio - Police say a pastor who was reported missing from his home in western New York has been found at an Ohio strip club.
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A police officer patrolling the K.C. Lounge parking lot Friday morning in the Dayton suburb of Riverside spotted out-of-state license plates on 46-year-old Craig Rhodenizer's car.
The FBI and New York authorities had been searching for Rhodenizer, who disappeared Wednesday after telling his wife he was getting his computer fixed at Best Buy. He is the pastor of a church in Lyndonville, N.Y.
Detective Matt Sturgeon said Rhodenizer was disoriented when confronted by police and said he felt "emotionally guilty."
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Post by Beulah5 on Mar 30, 2008 13:21:19 GMT -5
LOL!
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 30, 2008 16:04:16 GMT -5
What I am wondering is, what is "emotionally guilty?"
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 30, 2008 16:15:58 GMT -5
What I am wondering is, what is "emotionally guilty?" He got caught  or Somebody kidnapped him and drove his car to Ohio and forced him into the strip club and left him and the car  He will be preaching Next Sunday  |
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Post by kitty on Mar 30, 2008 16:17:14 GMT -5
I can hear it now... the devil made him do it!
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 30, 2008 16:31:23 GMT -5
What I am wondering is, what is "emotionally guilty?" He got caught or Somebody kidnapped him and drove his car to Ohio and forced him into the strip club and left him and the car He will be preaching Next Sunday ROFL! The part that is missing about this story is that he was suppose to be leaving for vacation with his family! I guess it is safe to say that he didn't want to go.... ;D It's sad; let's pray for our "leaders." |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 30, 2008 16:32:15 GMT -5
I can hear it now... the devil made him do it! The crazy thing about it is that to an extent that would be true! |
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 30, 2008 18:20:59 GMT -5
The part that is missing about this story is that he was suppose to be leaving for vacation with his family! I guess it is safe to say that he didn't want to go.... ;D ASWSOY that's just wrong! ;D |
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 30, 2008 18:22:20 GMT -5
He got caught or Somebody kidnapped him and drove his car to Ohio and forced him into the strip club and left him and the car He will be preaching Next Sunday ROFL! The part that is missing about this story is that he was suppose to be leaving for vacation with his family! I guess it is safe to say that he didn't want to go.... ;D It's sad; let's pray for our "leaders." It is called Depression   ... He ran away for a reason... most of these leaders did not have anybody to go to for counselling, it is very sad  ... This pastor must have been under a lot of pressure and got into his car and kept on driving ... |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 31, 2008 1:58:15 GMT -5
He..got..the...lusty
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Post by vindicated on Mar 31, 2008 9:49:35 GMT -5
What AT said is true. Our pastor reminds us all the time to pray for pastors everywhere. He has read statistics to us of the number of pastors who commit adultery, suffer from depression, have thoughts of leaving their families, have no one to talk to or that they can trust. They walk off and leave their churches without even giving notice, by the thousands. So ones like this one and Bynum and Weeks and so many others that get caught in all kinds of scandal are the ones who just try to work through it but they still fall because they don't have counsel. Pastors need pastors and most of them don't have it. But they have people pulling on them from week to week, basically making gods out of them and thinking they have no struggles and do no wrong, when it's the furthest thing from the truth. And the worst part is that when they fall into sin or fail us in some way, we become bitter, speak harshly about them, and make fun. But it's not funny. It's really sad.
My pastor told us of a friend of his who was a pastor. 35 years old, a young pastor, husband and father of small children. He was under a lot of pressure from ministry and issues in his marriage. He had called my pastor and told him that he needed to come and visit him for a few days, he just needed to get away. My pastor said he was more than welcome to come and he would be waiting for him. He said that he would come the middle of the week. He never made it.
His children where in the church daycare and they became concerned when he didn't pick them up. They went to the house and he was across the bed and had died, basically from a broken heart. They said that the paramedics hadn't seen anything like it. His face was still wet with tears. He died weeping.
The pressure of ministry is overwhelming and it kills pastors. Because we don't pastor it's easy to pass judgement and make light of it, but these men are dying. And then their are others who are determined they aren't gonna let a bunch of nuckleheads kill them so they walk away. Others do what this one did or something like it. So we really do need to pray for them.
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 31, 2008 11:17:04 GMT -5
You are right Vindicated. Its not funny, and it is sad.
Here my questions. Alot of pastors know they struggle in certain areas of their walk. We all do. As pastors exorts their members to establish relationships to remain accountable in their own walks, why aren't they taking the same medicine? I know my pastor surrounds himself with other men of God, whom he's had long standing relationships with. I am sure not everyone has this, but there has got to be someone.
Even with this leader. He was found in a strip club. Can you now imagine the embarrassment that his wife will now face? his family, his church?
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 31, 2008 11:27:21 GMT -5
Vindicated..what have posted is so true. Just this morning I woke with my Pastors on my mind.. they are young and have very young children. And people just pull and pull on them. Then to make matters I feel like I bringing them shame..because I have a tendency what lies ahead and when I speak out concerning the matter I get brushed off and have crazy comments regarding how many years ministry has ran through a family. I know that none of that matters. Sometimes you don't know what to pray for them and that makes it harder. I am also finding out that some Pastors ( not all ) want people to idolize them..sadly, they fall in many areas.some because they are not submitted to Pastor themselves and so, are submitted to Pastors..yet, only to ones who tell them what they want to hear and not what they need to hear. I know that it's difficult..yet, mistrust, pride, and other secret sins of the heart don't come alone..I just pray that they will truly have the heart of God and as many don't know how to rest..that they will rest both spiritually and physically.
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Post by vindicated on Apr 1, 2008 10:03:49 GMT -5
What we have to remember is that in the same ways we hurt, they hurt. Sometimes we are in a church full of people and we can't find anyone to talk to or trust and when we do take that plunge it's often the wrong one. We realize this when they take what we shared with them in confidence and use it against us in a hurtful way. It's the same with pastors.
For those of us who are or were part of large denominations, we know of the politics and power games that many in leadership play. You would think that being a part of a larger group of churches would provide a pastor with all the support he needs but it doesn't. I've seen it first hand. They are more concerned about making sure everybody has paid their "reports" than anything. Never taking into consideration that a small church with a few members and most of them elderly isn't going to have all the money for those reports.
There are pastors who come to our church and testify that they are so glad they found our pastor. They are often in denominations but when they find our pastor some of them have left the denom they were in. They testify that they had been praying for a pastor, a father in the gospel who could help them and the Lord will somehow bring them to our pastor. My pastor prays with them, he counsels with them, he cries with them, and he sends them money. So many pastors are unable to go to their bishops in these large denoms for assistance. They are made to feel bad by public ridicule by their leaders for not having money to give their bishops but they can't go to those same bishops for any assistance. They have no where to turn.
Honestly I think that none of us should sit in a ministry where we know we are being abused. Yes there are many who want to be worshipped. But we have choices to make. Just like we say these pastors have choices we do too. The things we allow ourselves to be subjected to are just insane. Grown women allowing themselves to be molested. Women with husbands and children acting like they don't know any better. We stay in churches because we grew up there. It's nuts. We are just as guilty as the pastors we blame.
Just like we fold under pressure sometimes, they do too. I thank God for my pastor and his transparency with us. To keep us with an understanding that we all have flesh attacks. We all have to be "checked". You never stop growing.
And one thing we have to remember. By the time the things go public we have to understand that it's been working in that person for months or years. All we see is the public display. We were shouting all that time when they were preaching and laying hands on us but they were struggling the whole time. We just didn't know it. Then when something goes public here we come with our ideas about what should be done. Yes there should be discipline, don't get me wrong. But God will use anybody to get a blessing to me. God is responsible to meet my needs and if all He has available is a fornicating preacher He'll use him in order to get my need met. Being available doesn't necesarrily mean you're right with God, but look at the ones who claim to be righteous and God can't find them. Then when He uses someone we don't approve of we have a problem.
Please receive this in the spirit it's being shared. I'm not fussing at anyone. I just feel led to bring this out. For those of us who feel we have a call to ministry we have to be sure that we not only have a heart for ministry, and a heart for the people, but we also have to have a heart for other ministers. We all can fall.
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 1, 2008 12:35:51 GMT -5
Vindicated..that is the truth !! Believe I have seen a bunch of craziness and all I know it that I we do need to pray for our leaders and restore them when they fall.
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or Somebody kidnapped him and drove his car to Ohio and forced him into the strip club and left him and the car 
He will be preaching Next Sunday 
... He ran away for a reason... most of these leaders did not have anybody to go to for counselling, it is very sad 
... This pastor must have been under a lot of pressure and got into his car and kept on driving