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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Feb 28, 2006 14:03:30 GMT -5
I also have Kevin Conner's book and I have another book that gives details about the tabernacle even down to the nails that were used. What I love most about that particular book is that He relates everything to the Cross and Jesus Christ.
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Post by MsKayLander on Feb 28, 2006 14:05:09 GMT -5
and if you listen to JB in any messages in which she talks about the tabernacle... she does too... ;D
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Feb 28, 2006 14:07:19 GMT -5
again, I am not knocking the messenger - I am just adding to the post. maybe would should turn this to a discussion on the ark of the covenant and how it relates (if at all) to us today.
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Post by Guest on Feb 28, 2006 14:08:36 GMT -5
I don't get it, but no one is against the conference either.
A person who is really trying to promote peace would have pronounced Blessings to All.
Here we go bring division on the BB......... Blessings to All (and I mean that). I hope Misskay's last post better help you understand where some people are coming from who see no harm in having a demonstration of the ARK. Maybe you should attend the conference to better learn these principles since it is not all familiar to you.  When you look at the pattern of the tabernacle, the spiritual significance behind the colors, entry ways, measurements, etc. all represent the work of Christ in some kind of way. If you read the Threshing Floor book, it will explain all these things. Some people may subjectively feel that the teaching of the pattern is a complexed way of explaining something that can be taught practically and too the point. However, I subjectively feel, that the teaching of the tabernacle from an eternal perspective confirms and affirms the pattern of prayer all along. Please forgive me if I've offended you in any kind of way. I pray that the eyes of your understanding continuously are illuminated by the Spirit. The tabernacle doesn't keep me from Jesus; it gives me more appreciation for the work that he fulfilled as represented in the tabernacle. Any teaching that denies Christ or the work of Christ becomes false; the tabernacle confirms and affirms our Lord Jesus. Amen |
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Post by MsKayLander on Feb 28, 2006 14:09:45 GMT -5
I agree to with misskay to a point, but not only are we to study the OT but we have to study the OT with the cross in mind - otherwise............................. I am one who have studied the tabernacle etc. and therefore I understand that it was only a type and shadow of things to come. I am not knocking anyone but I don't want to go behind a veil that is no longer there....lol, nor is there any need for it. Not with the cross in mind, but with Christ in mind... ;D as Christ leads us to the cross...you don't see the cross in the OT, but you do see Christ throughout... and the veil was only flesh so in order to be complete in Christ we have to get beyond our flesh... |
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Post by Guest on Feb 28, 2006 14:13:07 GMT -5
Suggested Readings:
The Threshing Floor, Juanita Bynum
The Tabernacle of Moses and David, The Temple of Solomon, Kevin J. Conner
The Taberncale: Shadows of the Messiah, David M. Levy
All of these show the pattern of the tabernacle as it relates to Christ as well as the believer [we are Christ's followers].
Very Good Reads!
Be Blessed. All of You.
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Post by Beck on Feb 28, 2006 14:13:23 GMT -5
Is Christianity an extension of Judaism?
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Post by MsKayLander on Feb 28, 2006 14:15:42 GMT -5
Is Christianity an extension of Judaism? Read Acts 1 ;D |
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Post by Guest on Feb 28, 2006 14:22:34 GMT -5
Is Christianity an extension of Judaism? I live neither by Christianity or Judaism. I don't believe either of there terms originated with God or Christ. I live according to the Kingdom. In God's kingdom, Jesus [Who is the Word] fulfilled the tabernacle, affirming and confirming the pattern of God from the beginning. |
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Post by MsKayLander on Feb 28, 2006 14:24:47 GMT -5
Is Christianity an extension of Judaism? I live neither by Christianity or Judaism. I don't believe either of there terms originated with God or Christ. I live according to the Kingdom. In God's kingdom, Jesus [Who is the Word] fulfilled the tabernacle, affirming and confirming the pattern of God from the beginning. kingdom of heaven or kingdom of GOD??? |
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Post by livinganewlife on Feb 28, 2006 14:25:44 GMT -5
Is Christianity an extension of Judaism? I live neither by Christianity or Judaism. I don't believe either of there terms originated with God or Christ. I live according to the Kingdom. In God's kingdom, Jesus [Who is the Word] fulfilled the tabernacle, affirming and confirming the pattern of God from the beginning. If Jesus fulfilled the Tabernacle affirm and confirmed why do we (2000 years later) have to go back pick it up and emulate it when all we really need to do is just represent Jesus........ |
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Post by MsKayLander on Feb 28, 2006 14:27:59 GMT -5
I live neither by Christianity or Judaism. I don't believe either of there terms originated with God or Christ. I live according to the Kingdom. In God's kingdom, Jesus [Who is the Word] fulfilled the tabernacle, affirming and confirming the pattern of God from the beginning. If Jesus fulfilled the Tabernacle affirm and confirmed why do we (2000 years later) have to go back pick it up and emulate it when all we really need to do is just represent Jesus........ Because He is in the tabernacle as well...OT concealed is NT revealed... just like Prego... it's in there! ;D |
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Post by Guest on Feb 28, 2006 14:42:22 GMT -5
MissKay, Are you trying to trick me? I would say I'm a citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven, but in my obedience to the Father's will and my experience with Him, I allow the Kingdom of God to rule in my heart. [/b]Living[/b], Why do we have crosses hung in our churches if Christ is seated on a throne? Why do we commemorate holidays with plays in our churches focusing on some character pretending to hang on a cross? I personally don't take it offensively. It simply demonstrates what we believe. Whether you demonstrate what you believe with a replica of the ancient sacred objects is a personal matter and if you choose not to, then that's fine. If you do use replicas, nothing is wrong with that either. What really matters is that you understand what the things mean. If God told the prophetess to march in that 'ark' to demonstrate to the people, then that's what she will do. It may not mean anything to some, but to others, it may cause them to have a deeper appreciation for the presence of God as seen in the bible. You can look at it like an illustrated sermon. Have you ever seen one of those? A preachers used objects or acts to explain spiritual truths.
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Post by Guest on Feb 28, 2006 14:46:27 GMT -5
Living
If Jesus fulfilled the tabernacle, what's wrong with showing people that in these days and times? It's NT teaching! That would give more room for teaching it.
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 28, 2006 14:47:45 GMT -5
You can always find out some interesting things as posts go on: Just wanted to share this scripture:
Ac 11:26 -
And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
The term Christian was used specifically for those who followed Christ.
Regarding understanding the tabernacle, veil, threshing floor, etc. I think for personal study purposes, there's no problem with that. However, I think for others it can bring about too much confusion unnecessarily. A new Christian just needs to know who Jesus is and to be able to repent, be baptized and receive the HG. Knowing Jesus is the most important. However, if one starts talking to them about those other things, they more likely to get confused......
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When you look at the pattern of the tabernacle, the spiritual significance behind the colors, entry ways, measurements, etc. all represent the work of Christ in some kind of way. If you read the Threshing Floor book, it will explain all these things.