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Post by ybrown on Mar 6, 2006 15:50:02 GMT -5
A non-believer was explaining why she didn't believe in our God. In her explanation she made a statement that went completely unaswered by the Christian folks.
I have to admit, I stumbled also because I didn't have a quick and dirty answer to give to satisfy a person that doesn't know the Word. Her statement was:
"How can you really consider three days a sacrifice? It's only three days. If He was raised and then ascended to Heaven, can you really call that a sacrifice?"
How would you answer this in simple terms so that a child could understand?
This thread isn't about atheists and why they don't believe, etc., so please don't bring that into the equation, but it's all about us being prepared to defend our faith.
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Post by MsKayLander on Mar 6, 2006 15:53:15 GMT -5
I would simply tell her to suffer as He suffered and see if you can stand 3 seconds, let alone 3 days... Have the nails in your hands and feet... hang as the flesh tears, oh and don't forget a crown of thorns and being mocked and spit upon.... How could it be a sacrifice? Change places with Him....  |
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Post by ybrown on Mar 6, 2006 16:14:16 GMT -5
I would simply tell her to suffer as He suffered and see if you can stand 3 seconds, let alone 3 days... Have the nails in your hands and feet... hang as the flesh tears, oh and don't forget a crown of thorns and being mocked and spit upon.... How could it be a sacrifice? Change places with Him.... But, back in those times crucifixion was a fairly common form of execution, especially for slaves and criminals. That's why Jesus was crucified between two criminals. |
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Post by MsKayLander on Mar 6, 2006 16:17:24 GMT -5
They did not suffer as He did...even still... would she or anyone be able to stand that type of punishment??
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Post by Beck on Mar 6, 2006 16:37:18 GMT -5
I would answer it this way... A sacrifice isn't based on the time it took to perform it, or the after effects of the moment, its based on the action done.
If someone jumps in front of you and saves you from getting shoot with a bullet, they take the bullet in the arm, is that any less of a sacrifice than the one who takes it in the chest? its not... Jesus didn't have to do what he did for mankind, but because he loved us he did. Many records show that he didn't say a mumbling word, and if he wanted he could have called 10 thousand angels to destroy the world, but he didn't, even the last ditch effort of Satan through the thief on the cross"If you are the son of God save yourself" didn't get him off, why.... Because no greater love has any man than this... While it was only 3 days... it saved us from an eternity of d**nation.
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 6, 2006 17:29:31 GMT -5
I would say he DIED for three days.........and no one else can do that whether you think it's a sacrifice or not....DEAD is DEAD...........
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 6, 2006 17:36:57 GMT -5
explain He died for 3 days? Do you mean he was dead for 3 days?
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 6, 2006 17:49:41 GMT -5
explain He died for 3 days? Do you mean he was dead for 3 days? I woould tell this person that Jesus died, period, that's a sacrifice no matter if it was one minute or three days when you die you die and no one else has ever made that sacrifice. Jesus was buried in a grave......as any dead person.. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 6, 2006 18:24:05 GMT -5
the sacrifice was the fact that He willingly gave His life for us - not the length of time that He was dead.
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Post by Beck on Mar 6, 2006 18:25:40 GMT -5
the sacrifice was the fact that He willingly gave His life for us - not the length of time that He was dead. yep! No greater love!!! (cmon sister jazz post the lyrics to the song.. I know you know them...lol) |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 6, 2006 18:44:32 GMT -5
the length of time in the grave actually speaks to the glory of God being revealed. He was good and dead (lol) and God raised Him from the dead, but it is important to know what the sacrifice really was.
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Post by Beck on Mar 6, 2006 19:01:43 GMT -5
the length of time in the grave actually speaks to the glory of God being revealed. He was good and dead (lol) and God raised Him from the dead, but it is important to know what the sacrifice really was. Shoot... the bottom line is he didnt have to do it, but he did. Not out of obligation but unconditional love is enough for me. |
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 6, 2006 20:29:06 GMT -5
the sacrifice was the fact that He willingly gave His life for us - not the length of time that He was dead. yep! No greater love!!! (cmon sister jazz post the lyrics to the song.. I know you know them...lol) You bet I Do! I used to directo this song at my last church. Verse For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son. The Son gave His life for me, when He died on Calvary. There is no greater love, no love nowhere, no greater love; than a man would lay down His life for a friend, no love nowhere, I've searched all over. Chorus 1 Sop-There is no greater love, Alto-there is no greater love, Tenor- there is no greater love, Sop- no greater All -love. Bridge No greater love, than a man would lay down His life for a friend. Chorus 2 No greater love x8 Vamp 1 Jesus went to Calvary to save a wretch, like you and me; that's love, that's love. Vamp 2 They hung Him wide, they strecthed Him wide. He hung His head, and then He died; that's love, that's love. Vamp 3 That's not how the story ends, three days later He rose again; that's love, that's love. |
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Post by krazeeboi on Mar 6, 2006 21:31:52 GMT -5
Yall have said it. The sacrifice was in the action of a life being surrendered, not the time for which He was dead (although it is symbolic).
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Post by ybrown on Mar 7, 2006 11:47:48 GMT -5
Amen! And while on the cross, Jesus bore every sin, past, present and future, of every person that ever lived or is to live.
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