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Post by auneeqsol on Dec 6, 2005 15:06:49 GMT -5
Now I have wondered about this lots of times, that's sort of why I stopped "labeling" according to my own feelings (unless i know 100%) what is not God. We know that the scripture says: Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come Okay Question--- ?? When someone is shouting (what BF call Dancing) and praising the Lord, or doing any other thing pertaining to the gifts or anything and someone looks and says ," They know they need to sit down, up there being fake, look at them" If that person was sincere and inspired by the Spirit really to do what they were doing or say what they were saying , is that Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost? What do you think? Lemme Know..... Should we sometimes??? LOL
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Post by krazeeboi on Dec 6, 2005 16:00:54 GMT -5
It's not blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.
Some people really need to understand that praise is voluntary. Essentially, it is something that we offer God on our own accord as we are enabled by the Holy Spirit to do so. But it is really our decision as to whether or not we will give God praise, in whatever form it may occur.
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Post by auneeqsol on Dec 6, 2005 16:05:40 GMT -5
Okay i gotcha, but what if someone is doing a "work" not the same as the healing Jesus did, but something like Prophesying, or Laying hands on someone praying and speaking over them? Or what if someone is giving a message in tongues and remarks are made that it isnt God...what do you call that?
Well what would constitute it as being blasphemy?If they contribute the work to the devil? Because some things can be flesh and not the devil....give me some insight
P.S. i dont remember whether he was healing or casting out a demon i dont have my bible in front of me right now
I hope you understand the point im making
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Post by ybrown on Dec 6, 2005 17:18:42 GMT -5
Blasphemy is open defiance against God, willfully degrading the things of God, as well as also cursing God.
If the accuser(s) know(s) for certain that the occurences (speaking in tongues, laying on of hands, etc.) ARE of God, but yet willfully curse and deny their origin, then they are in fact blaspheming against God.
The second option is the person may be genuinely recognizing a false spirit at work.
But it sounds like the situation you're talking about is just a case of people running off at the mouth about things they know nothing about or don't understand. Then in that case it's gossip and heresy, both of which are still sin.
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Post by Nikkol on Dec 6, 2005 17:55:20 GMT -5
I believe that it is the continuous denial of God.
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Post by krazeeboi on Dec 7, 2005 3:21:10 GMT -5
There's a difference between simple blasphemy and blasphemy against the Holy Ghost.
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Post by Guest on Dec 7, 2005 8:09:28 GMT -5
But it sounds like the situation you're talking about is just a case of people running off at the mouth about things they know nothing about or don't understand. Then in that case it's gossip and heresy, both of which are still sin. I agree with this statement. I believe many times we take the "Holy Ghost" in each other not seriously. We always want to label things as false, when sometimes we have to allow people to grow (we all have to grow). My statements do not justify for error to be in operation in a person's life, but it calls for a right use of discernment (wisdom) in handling error when it's near.
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Post by beautifulchild on Jan 20, 2006 22:48:35 GMT -5
thanks, I have been so confused about this. Is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit when someone doesn't believe in speaking in tounges and attributes that to demonic spirits. I had someone say that to me and I thought it was blasphemy, but at the time he just didn't understand about the Holy Spirit. Or is Blasphemy what you said open defiance against God, and I guess the key would be willfully degrading the things of God? Blasphemy is open defiance against God, willfully degrading the things of God, as well as also cursing God. If the accuser(s) know(s) for certain that the occurences (speaking in tongues, laying on of hands, etc.) ARE of God, but yet willfully curse and deny their origin, then they are in fact blaspheming against God. The second option is the person may be genuinely recognizing a false spirit at work. But it sounds like the situation you're talking about is just a case of people running off at the mouth about things they know nothing about or don't understand. Then in that case it's gossip and heresy, both of which are still sin.
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Post by stillfocused on Jan 22, 2006 1:45:36 GMT -5
I believe that there is a difference between unbelief and blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. There was a time that I did not believe that the gifts of the Spirit were available for this present time..and the Holy Spirit was "it" and not the 3rd person. Because I had not been taught otherwise and because I did not know the word of God for myself. And until this person has an encounter with the Holy Spirit..their thoughts will remain the same..it's just like believers who suddenly speaking in tongues..is that blasphemy or grieving the Spirit of God within them ? And sometimes people see the true spirit behind the actions of persons..and that's when they say sit down.
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