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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 16, 2006 15:26:50 GMT -5
Prophets Challenge for March 9, 2006 blown throw His living ram's horn itiswritten.evangel-list.com I was praying and God said HE NEEDS the PROPHETS to rise and understand that there is truly a challenge with in the PROPHETIC.....That many are going to face opposition for the office sake... There have been many pressured into a office that they are not meant to walk in....The Church have lost the true meaning and duties of a Prophet and now they have made up a pressure that Prophets are trying to abide by....One that causes them to speak a religious message that encourages FALSE HOPE and Expectation of God blessing MESS..... PROPHETS OF GOD BE YE LOOSE THIS DAY....Do not walk in the pressure of the false Prophets... Many are trying to pressure the true prophets into a corner of silence... Entrapment have been a opposition....Do not feel that you have to say something just to prove YOUR ANOINTING....This is not the season that man will run to man, for their anointing...They are seeking the anointing that can take them to the Glory....Yes the effect of the anointing is destroying the yokes...but the effect of the Glory is destroying the flesh.... The Pressure of the Prophet.... Do not speak out of term...Do not try to conjure up a Word...There is an exposure of the False prophets...God is removing the Seats of the false and the ones that are easy to give in to pressure.....ELI you are about to fall out of your seat.... Too many have took the title prophet and bring forth a LOGOS Word...a word of religion that seems to fit any occasion and stroke the seeking of the prosperous....But those that are pressing in to the hidden of God will pull out a RHEMA Word...A Now Word for a NOW faith people.... Cry Loud and Spare Not this a War cry for the Warriors WAKE UP!!!! His bound and faithful serving sent son When Man hear Me Let them only see YOU Father!! From: Prophetess Tonita ATT
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Post by true on Mar 16, 2006 21:27:51 GMT -5
Thanks so much for these words. How many times have I been hurt by false words? ? Thanks, this is truly a breath of fresh air
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Post by G3 on Mar 21, 2006 9:25:34 GMT -5
I once asked these questions in the old JBMB but never could get the proper answer from those who considered themselves a "contemporary prophet or prophetess". There is a oneness. There is a harmony within the contemporary prophetic (this is not to be confused with the flow of estaticism in glorification and praise to the Almighty) with one purpose of heart, but with many approach and application. No good gift from above is irrevocable. Not until that time of maturity. But today there is an urgency of heart. A cry of the inner man in the office of the prophet that flows and agree in harmony in echoing the voice of the Almighty.
My question are. In what spirit do they flow in? And what is the purpose of the urgency and to whom do they speak?
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 24, 2006 12:57:35 GMT -5
Too many have took the title prophet and bring forth a LOGOS Word...a word of religion that seems to fit any occasion and stroke the seeking of the prosperous....But those that are pressing in to the hidden of God will pull out a RHEMA Word...A Now Word for a NOW faith people.... ATT This part just doesn't seem "right" to me. Sorry, but everytime I read it, I just don't feel right.
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 24, 2006 13:29:25 GMT -5
I had to read it a couple of times to fugure out where the prophetess was coming from. I believe what she is saying is that many ppl who carry the title prophet, only bring forth the Logo Word (Written Word) to give the people what they want to hear, like house, car, prosperity, but not speaking the Rhema (that lines up with the Logo) What God actually saying to His People NOW. JBW said in her book the Matter of the Heart, Yes, God want us to be bless with Things, many prophets are prophesying houses and cars.... Yes, it is the scripture that He want us to prosper in those area, but God not breathing on those words. The prophets are not giving the ppl of God the Rhema Word or Logo that He have for us at this time.
Prophetess Tonita... saying the prophets are pressure to give the ppl what they want to hear and not what God actually saying.
That part didn't sound right to me too.... I took what she prophesied in the beginnig to get an understanding of where she coming from in that paragraph.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 24, 2006 16:09:09 GMT -5
I see what you are saying but that is not what I am getting. A LOGOS word is NOT a word of religion.
Maybe I am looking too much into it but .............................
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 24, 2006 16:41:19 GMT -5
I agree... but ppl can misused the Word of God, to the point it be a word of religion... They can control people with the word (scripture) and deceive people with the scripture.
Example: many women are enslaved by their husband and feel that they have to obey no matter what the demand. Some Church member feel that they are serving God by doing whatever the Pastor said, including leaving their spouses. Some Prophets will have ppl believing that they would gave their bill money for their breakthrough and get a prophet reward....
People work witchcraft with the Bible.... they uses the book of Psalm to curse ppl.
That why we need to know God Word, Will and Way, and know when the Word is being misused.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 25, 2006 14:08:52 GMT -5
The LOGOS word IS God's Word! And this is where I have the problem with that statement.
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 25, 2006 19:51:31 GMT -5
We all know the LOGO Word is God's Word, but ppl have misused His Word and used it for their advantage and not to minister. Satan deceived Eve through God's Word concerning tree of Knowledge of good and evil. He tried to tempt Jesus through God's Word. Some prophets deceive and lie using God's Word to get to do what they want them to do. I believe is what Prophetess Tonita is trying to say.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 26, 2006 10:56:58 GMT -5
You are missunderstanding what I am saying and therefore I will say that I am not communicating it well, though I sincerely appreciate your efforts.
It is something that will have to be "revealed" to me because with all of our dialogue, my heart has not changed towards the matter.
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Post by Jasmine on Mar 26, 2006 20:39:24 GMT -5
I agree with ASWSOY,
The living word is Jesus. Logos is the word of God. To call a "Logos word" a word of religion would be inaccurate. The bible says let God be truth and every man a liar. If its written in the word of God, then we can rest assure that we can stand on the word of God. Why? Because the word of God does not lie. Man does. The word of God does not give false hope. Man does. There is a easy solution to recognizing what God is and is not saying...Get in tune with the Spirit of God, and have an ear to hear what he is saying about you. You don't need a prophet to know what the future holds for you. Just listen when God speaks you.
I also would like to say this: Yes, God doesn't bless "mess", however we can all testify that God has blessed us while in our mess.
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Post by krazeeboi on Mar 27, 2006 1:51:53 GMT -5
*gettin' my dance on* Thank ya Lawd for mercy and grace!!!
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Post by G3 on Mar 27, 2006 13:54:05 GMT -5
Great response Jas. If christiandom understood as a whole that intimatecy with the Godhead and abiding in His word the Holy Spirit will fulfill the promise of Christ that He, the Holy Spirit will take of the Father and the Son and will give and reveal Truth and wisdom to the believer. This is what Christ has promise. This will happen according to one's hunger for Truth and trust in the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
The church leaders for generations have conditioned (being a product also of such conditioning) the believer to accept the teaching that "in order to hear from the Father one must look to them for instructions". This is true to a degree. All who teach such I question charisma as shepherds. But based upon the divine system of growth and maturity designed by the Godhead, theres an expectation in a natural and spiriual life to fully mature. Paul repremined the believers in the book of Hebrews for being unskillful in the Word by living off milk instead of the meat. The expectation and design of the Godhead is for all His children to ultimately hear and be led by Him. John taught this in his letter. But to get them started right He ordainded schoolmasters (Five Fold Ministry).
But heres the meat of the "prophets challenge". With that in mind of what just been said, what is the purpose or the reason of the present day ministry of the prophet. What I do know is that there is a flow and harnony of heart in a kindred spirit with all who echos the voice of the Almighty. There is an urgency and a cry of the inner man that dwells in the council of the Almighty where "deep call unto deep". What is the bitterness and burden that cause sleepless nights? What consumes the thought and soul of the vessel? What do you see through the eyes of the Father? What is this burden that is to be echoed? Is it through the signs and wonder of the prophet shall he speak to His people? Or is it more Oracle? If it's Oracle, to whom or what group?
There are various methods of administations, but by the same Spirit. Those who do echo in different ways and varous manners, will flow as a mighty river of one heart in the Holy Spirit.
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