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Post by atruewomenofgod on Jul 25, 2006 20:03:06 GMT -5
I wanted to post this because I was on another Christian site and this brother posted this topic but his response has nothing to do with his topic.
He is asking why would God punish his chosen people because of Pharaoh's mistakes. He feel that God is an evil God and that He didn't have to punish everyone in the old testament if God suppose to be loving God that he say He is.
there are some of us have explain that he was missing the point of why things happen the way they did but he refuse to listen. I am on here asking what else can I do to help this brother because he is so lost and I have detected that he is angry with God. So can I get some advice atrue
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Post by krazeeboi on Jul 31, 2006 1:01:52 GMT -5
I'm not understand how/when God punished Israel because of Pharoah's mistakes. Exactly what is being alluded to here?
And I've come to realize that we don't have a clue as to what "love" really is, biblically speaking.
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Post by keita on Jul 31, 2006 12:32:33 GMT -5
...And I've come to realize that we don't have a clue as to what "love" really is, biblically speaking. SAY IT! You better duck, kb, 'cause I'm throwing my shoe right now! LOL! And then I may weep...
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Post by krazeeboi on Jul 31, 2006 14:44:34 GMT -5
Yes, because it is rather sad. We have an entire society that has embraced a false notion of "love," and it has crept into the church. As a result, we have emotional theology that casts logic and reason (God-given endowments) to the wind--all because we have failed to not become conformed to this world and renew our minds, thus proving the will of God.
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Jul 31, 2006 14:48:57 GMT -5
So Keita.....tell me your point of view on what happen with the children of Israel. Do you think that God punish people because he loves them? Correct me if I am wrong....was it not because Pharoh disobedience? What does the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit have to do with Pharoh and the children that was held bondage in Eypgt? I am going to try to copy from this other site so you can see what he is saying. you made not see any of my responses because he has deleted the things that I was trying to share with him. But I will see if I can atrue
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Jul 31, 2006 14:54:06 GMT -5
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July 25 What kind of god would do this to their people (unless god doesn't count Africans/Egyptians as people). Murdering all first-borns? Most of the Egyptians were probably living in poor conditions and hating the Pharoah for their plight. Why not simply kill the pharoah, or appear before him and convince him otherwise?
And those of you who say that "it's just a tale, meant to show god's wrath, or how hard it was for the jews to escape from Egypt", then why not throw the rest of the bible out too? Who are we to pick and choose from god's holy words?
I've always been realist, but I had never heard of the 10 plagues in such detail, I figured it was exagerated or something. When I read them I was in shock that people could respect and worship such a being, let alone use that tale as a moral guide to living life. Nice brain job! Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 25 There is one thing that you are missing my friend and that is DISOBEDIENCE. Out through the whole Bible because of the people disobedience they had to pay the price. Don't make it sound like that God shatches His love away from His people. We were created to make our own chose, having our own free will. Just like what's going on today we have that freedom to choose life or death. Whether we want to live the rest of our life with Him or live the rest of our lives in eternal d**nation. Read more and ask God to help you to understand what is happen just don't read the verse and take it as if God is in the wrong.....Not So!!!!
Why do you think that the Children of Israel wonder in the wilderness for 40yrs when only it would of took them I believe the bible says 10 days to get from point A to B. God destroy the earth with water becasue of disobedience. People lost their lives because of other people disobenience. We can talk about this. atrue Quote Report Abuse MadHouse24 Male, 33 Alexandria, VA
July 25 Quote: belizean007Send IM What kind of god would do this to their people (unless god doesn't count Africans/Egyptians as people). Murdering all first-borns? Most of the Egyptians were probably living in poor conditions and hating the Pharoah for their plight. Why not simply kill the pharoah, or appear before him and convince him otherwise?
And those of you who say that "it's just a tale, meant to show god's wrath, or how hard it was for the jews to escape from Egypt", then why not throw the rest of the bible out too? Who are we to pick and choose from god's holy words?
I've always been realist, but I had never heard of the 10 plagues in such detail, I figured it was exagerated or something. When I read them I was in shock that people could respect and worship such a being, let alone use that tale as a moral guide to living life. Nice brain job!
If you read the story correctly (which it looks like you didn't)...it wasn't God who killed the firstborn..it was the Pharaoh who refused to let the people go Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 25 Well Jeez, MadHouse24 Male, 33Alexandria, VA!!!!!!!!!. Dont prejudge man, i read the entire bible and i did so correcty. I hope that i wont lose my first born simply because i disagree with you! Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 25 If I may could I ask this ?........If you read the book of Exodus then why ask the question why God will do what he did to these people if He is a loving and caring God that he is. Please I am not being smart mouthed but only concern of what concern you. Because it is plain and written why these people were punished. atrue Quote Report Abuse Kadesh Male, 27 Baker, LA
July 25 Quote: belizean007Send IM What kind of god would do this to their people (unless god doesn't count Africans/Egyptians as people). Murdering all first-borns? Most of the Egyptians were probably living in poor conditions and hating the Pharoah for their plight. Why not simply kill the pharoah, or appear before him and convince him otherwise?
And those of you who say that "it's just a tale, meant to show god's wrath, or how hard it was for the jews to escape from Egypt", then why not throw the rest of the bible out too? Who are we to pick and choose from god's holy words?
I've always been realist, but I had never heard of the 10 plagues in such detail, I figured it was exagerated or something. When I read them I was in shock that people could respect and worship such a being, let alone use that tale as a moral guide to living life. Nice brain job!
The Egyptians were not God's chosen people. If you read the larger context, you'd see that the Jews were. And they were being opressed by Pharoah. And you made another erroneous comment.....God never has to appear before man to convince him of anything. If that were the case, He wouldnt be God. No, in fact, it was God who hardened the heart of Pharoah. So why would God then turn around and "convince" him to let His people go? I believe before you can understand this story (or any other Biblical account) you have to be saved. The real question is who is Jesus to you? Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 25 Quote: Kadesh The Egyptians were not God's chosen people. If you read the larger context, you'd see that the Jews were. And they were being opressed by Pharoah. And you made another erroneous comment.....God never has to appear before man to convince him of anything. If that were the case, He wouldnt be God. No, in fact, it was God who hardened the heart of Pharoah. So why would God then turn around and "convince" him to let His people go? I believe before you can understand this story (or any other Biblical account) you have to be saved. The real question is who is Jesus to you?
Belizean007 Comment: Keep it real guys.... Keep it real! Kindly read the topic again and use your minds before you stroke the keypad.
Regarding this response: "it was God who hardened the heart of Pharoah. So why would God then turn around and "convince" him to let His people go?"
LOL, you are a funny person..... you really made me lol........ Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 25 NOt being funny but shouldn't you have made a comment about the love of God and the Holy Spirit instead of maken a comment about what happen in Eygpt. We are only responded to what you have written. I could only say that your topic doesn't match in what you said. atrue...... Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 25 Quote: atruewomenofgod If I may could I ask this ?........If you read the book of Exodus then why ask the question why God will do what he did to these people if He is a loving and caring God that he is. Please I am not being smart mouthed but only concern of what concern you. Because it is plain and written why these people were punished. atrue
Yes, i did read the entire bible.......... In the book of exodus, it is written that God hardens pharaoh heart, so that he could then punish Pharaoh and his people for doing things they were powerless to resist. Or in other words, god looks even worse than my topic makes him out to be. Check out Exodus yourself.
Well, even some Christians admit the God of the Old Testament is evil. I certainly believe it. Personally, I would rather worship anything good, other than sick! Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 25 Quote: atruewomenofgod NOt being funny but shouldn't you have made a comment about the love of God and the Holy Spirit instead of maken a comment about what happen in Eygpt. We are only responded to what you have written. I could only say that your topic doesn't match in what you said. atrue......
reply: It may have flew right over your head man.............. You are concerned about the header of this topic? God doesn't care about the African/Egyptians, he is a tribal god, the god of the Israelites. The Old Testament is the story of a God and his Chosen People. That god doesn't deny the existence of other gods, he simply claims to be mightier than them. And he will show no mercy to those who bow down to them. He is definately not a loving God because if he had not allow his chosen peeps to be taken into bondange, we would not be in debate on this here issue! Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 25 I think that you are missing the whole point....and now I see that you are angry with God and for what reason I don't know. But I will tell you this instead of looking at it in a carner mind state try looking at it with a spiritual mind and you would understand why things happen the way they do.
And another point......I am a woman not a man. I don't know if you are a new creature in Christ but I do know that you have a lot to learn about who God is and why He does the things that He does. No....let me put it to you this way WE DO THINGS TO OURSELF AND WE ARE QUICK TO BLAME GOD FOR IT. And to say that a lot of people think that God was evil wake up my friend and smell the coffee you are no different then the rest you are trapped and lost just like the rest of them. I am not here to debate but only to agree to disagree and to help those who misquote the scripture as they see it not as God see it. Learn to put self aside and see what God is saying not man.
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July 25 You have attack everyone on this broad who is trying to direct you in the right direction and you refuse to see the point. we have all said (with the exception of you) the samething to you and you are not hearing it. The bible says to be quick to hear and slow to speak (paraphase). YOU ARE NOT HEARING US. And you have said a couple of times that you have read the whole bible....My friend that is all you've done was just read it. Not asking the Holy Spirit for any guidiness or direction so naturally yours throughts are going to be your throughts. Your mind is not open at all you have a rebellious heart. So I say to you .......are you sure that your heart isn't harden. God is not a evil God. He is a loving God and believe it or not inspite of how you feel about Him. He still loves you know matter what. Work on being a hearer first and then speak. I am not angry with you I am only trying to help you because right now you are lost.
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July 25 AND WHY DID GOD HARDEN PARAOH'S HEART.....TELL ME WHY DID GOD HARDEN HIS HEART. LET US GO FURTHER THAN THAT WHY DO THINGS HAPPEN TODAY TO PEOPLE?
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July 26 Quote: atruewomenofgod I think that you are missing the whole point....and now I see that you are angry with God and for what reason I don't know. But I will tell you this instead of looking at it in a carner mind state try looking at it with a spiritual mind and you would understand why things happen the way they do.
And another point......I am a woman not a man. I don't know if you are a new creature in Christ but I do know that you have a lot to learn about who God is and why He does the things that He does. No....let me put it to you this way WE DO THINGS TO OURSELF AND WE ARE QUICK TO BLAME GOD FOR IT. And to say that a lot of people think that God was evil wake up my friend and smell the coffee you are no different then the rest you are trapped and lost just like the rest of them. I am not here to debate but only to agree to disagree and to help those who misquote the scripture as they see it not as God see it. Learn to put self aside and see what God is saying not man.
atrue
Belizean007 Comments: atruewomenofgod Female, 47Killeen, TX, remember that i was the "one" that wrote this topic, right? Again, the header was an intended instrument design for you only. I am not angry with god or anyone ...... You are wrong again "atruewomenofgod" dah sin! lol..... I took sometime to try and read some of what you wrote, but it does not make much sense, bad spelling, grama and punctuations have made it impossible for me to understand you. You spend so much time trying to pretend that you are saved by the grace! you are so quick to judge others as being lost, but yet and still you can not effectively argue your point! What you have tried to say makes absolutely no sense at all..........
Now, even a fool knows that the bible was written by man.... be real "atruewomenofgod" Quote Report Abuse Kadesh Male, 27 Baker, LA
July 26 Quote: belizean007Send IM Belizean007 Comment: Keep it real guys.... Keep it real! Kindly read the topic again and use your minds before you stroke the keypad.
Regarding this response: "it was God who hardened the heart of Pharoah. So why would God then turn around and "convince" him to let His people go?"
LOL, you are a funny person..... you really made me lol........
I'm glad you found it humorous, but I was being real. I only responded to your comment, which by the way has NOTHING to do with the topic. The question remains: Who is Jesus to you? You responded to my post, but conveniently avoided that question. Your answer to that question will make all the difference in your interpretation of scripture (or lack thereof); and it makes a difference in how a believer responds to you. Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 26 Quote: atruewomenofgod You have attack everyone on this broad who is trying to direct you in the right direction and you refuse to see the point. we have all said (with the exception of you) the samething to you and you are not hearing it. The bible says to be quick to hear and slow to speak (paraphase). YOU ARE NOT HEARING US. And you have said a couple of times that you have read the whole bible....My friend that is all you've done was just read it. Not asking the Holy Spirit for any guidiness or direction so naturally yours throughts are going to be your throughts. Your mind is not open at all you have a rebellious heart. So I say to you .......are you sure that your heart isn't harden. God is not a evil God. He is a loving God and believe it or not inspite of how you feel about Him. He still loves you know matter what. Work on being a hearer first and then speak. I am not angry with you I am only trying to help you because right now you are lost.
atrue
BELIZEAN007 REPLY TO: "AWOMANOFGOD" LOL......
You have attack everyone on this broad who is trying to direct you in the right direction and you refuse to see the point.
BELIZEAN007 REPLY: I NOTICED THAT YOU ARE BEGINING TO TELL LIES, I HAVE ATTACKED NO ONE! NOW YOU ARE ALSO CLAIMING THAT I AM LACKING DIRECTION? YOU NEED TO BE DIRECTED BACK TO JR. HIGH.... SERIOUSLY, HERE ARE THE FACTS... THIS IS MY TOPIC, IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT I PUT IN THIS FORUM, DONT RESPOND... SIMPLE AS THAT! YOU GET MY POINT "WOMAN" OG.....
we have all said (with the exception of you) the samething to you and you are not hearing it.
BELIZEAN007 REPLY: WE, WHO WE? LOL.... AGAIN, THIS TOPIC WAS WRITTEN BY ME, I LEAD YOU FOLLOW.... SIMPLE AS THAT, IF YOU DONT LIKE WHAT I HAVE TO SAY YOU SHOULD LEAVE NOW! WHY TRY TO BE CONFRONTATIONAL IN A TOPIC THAT I ALLOW YOU TO POST IN....
The bible says to be quick to hear and slow to speak (paraphase). YOU ARE NOT HEARING US.
BELIZEAN007 REPLY: LOL..... THATS OLD BC STUFF! SLAVE MENTALITY LOL...
And you have said a couple of times that you have read the whole bible....My friend that is all you've done was just read it.
BELIZEAN007 COMMENTS: YOU ARE BEGINING TO SOUND LIKE A FANATIC:
Not asking the Holy Spirit for any guidiness or direction so naturally yours throughts are going to be your throughts.
BELIZEAN007 COMMENTS: OK, DID THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDED YOU TO CALL YOURSELF "AWMANOFGOD"? YOU ARE A REGIOUS FANATIC,
Your mind is not open at all you have a rebellious heart. So I say to you .......are you sure that your heart isn't harden.
BELIZEAN007 REPLY: MY HEART IS STRONG AND MY HEALTH IS GREAT. WHAT ABOUT YOURS "AWOMANOF GOD" BUT WHY ARE YOU SO CONFRONTATIONAL AND WARLIKE? THE ONLY HARDEN HEART IS PROBABLY YOURS WOMAN.... INFACT, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU HAD A MEDICAL CHECK-UP? SERIOUSLY... YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO DEGRADE TTHIS THREAD BUT I WILL DELEATE YOU BEFORE THAT HAPPENS.... I ASSURE YOU!
God is not a evil God. He is a loving God and believe it or not inspite of how you feel about Him. He still loves you know matter what.
BELIZEAN007 COMMENTS:" EVIL IS EVIL DOES!" What kind of god would do this to their people (unless god doesn't count Africans/Egyptians as people). Murdering all first-borns? Most of the Egyptians were probably living in poor conditions and hating the Pharoah for their plight.
Work on being a hearer first and then speak. I am not angry with you I am only trying to help you because right now you are lost.
BELIZEAN007 REPLY: WORK ON YOUR ENGLISH GRAMMER, SPELLING, PUNCTUATIONS ETC... THEN YOU MAY BE ABLE TO COMUNICATE IN AN EFFECTIVE MANNER! DAH SIN! LOL YOU HONESTLY NEED SOME ANGER MANAGEMENT........ AND MOST DEFINATELY, IF ANYONE IN THIS HERE DEBATE IS LOST, IT GOT TO BE YOU! HOW DEAR YOU? LOL...... Quote Report Abuse MadHouse24 Male, 33 Alexandria, VA
July 26 Quote: belizean007Send IM Well Jeez, MadHouse24 Male, 33Alexandria, VA!!!!!!!!!. Dont prejudge man, i read the entire bible and i did so correcty. I hope that i wont lose my first born simply because i disagree with you!
Prejudgement would be an annunciation of a verdict before the evidence has been completely rendered............I stated an opinion..I hope you won't lose your firstborn either because I disagree
:-) Quote Report Abuse MadHouse24 Male, 33 Alexandria, VA
July 26 Quote: belizean007Send IM Belizean007 Comment: Keep it real guys.... Keep it real! Kindly read the topic again and use your minds before you stroke the keypad.
Regarding this response: "it was God who hardened the heart of Pharoah. So why would God then turn around and "convince" him to let His people go?"
LOL, you are a funny person..... you really made me lol........
When you read where it talks about "hardening" Pharoahs heart...this is akin to "hard headiness." Pharoah was told each time by Moses, let my people go, and after relenting each time, he would change his mind (hard headed)......Pharoah being "hardened" speaks of his responses to the God of the Hebrews Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 26 BELIZEAN007, DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND ME AS YOU SAY.......IS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL IN CHRIST YET SO THEREFORE YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BROAD. TO YOU WE ARE THE STUPID ONES, THE LOST ONES, WE HAVE ALL AGAIN SAID THE SAME THING AND IF WE ARE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC THEN MY GOD SOMETHING WRONG. UNTIL YOU COME INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST THEN AND ONLY THEN YOU WILL SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 27 Quote: atruewomenofgod BELIZEAN007, DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND ME AS YOU SAY.......IS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL IN CHRIST YET SO THEREFORE YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BROAD. TO YOU WE ARE THE STUPID ONES, THE LOST ONES, WE HAVE ALL AGAIN SAID THE SAME THING AND IF WE ARE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC THEN MY GOD SOMETHING WRONG. UNTIL YOU COME INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST THEN AND ONLY THEN YOU WILL SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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2:57 pm BELIZEAN007, DO YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND ME AS YOU SAY.......IS BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT LEVEL IN CHRIST YET SO THEREFORE YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT OR ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS BROAD.
belizean007 comments: You still continue to call names in a number of your post that i just removed. If you would rather stay on the offensive rather than to debate the topics then you will leave me no choice but to remove from this topic..... Be a good woman of god and i may decide to let you stay!
TO YOU WE ARE THE STUPID ONES, THE LOST ONES, WE HAVE ALL AGAIN SAID THE SAME THING AND IF WE ARE ON THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC THEN MY GOD SOMETHING WRONG.
reply: I didn't say that, you did!!!!!!! Thats my point "womanof god" thats my point! daaang, she finally begins to see
UNTIL YOU COME INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST THEN AND ONLY THEN YOU WILL SEE AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Jul 31, 2006 14:55:27 GMT -5
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July 27 Quote: belizean007Send IM Well Jeez, MadHouse24 Male, 33Alexandria, VA!!!!!!!!!. Dont prejudge man, i read the entire bible and i did so correcty. I hope that i wont lose my first born simply because i disagree with you!
Disagreeing with her has nothing to do with the plagues. Those things were brought on by disobedience to G-d...not a man. Quote Report Abuse smoove_td Male, 23 Riverside, CA
July 27 Quote: belizean007Send IM What kind of god would do this to their people (unless god doesn't count Africans/Egyptians as people). Murdering all first-borns? Most of the Egyptians were probably living in poor conditions and hating the Pharoah for their plight. Why not simply kill the pharoah, or appear before him and convince him otherwise?
And those of you who say that "it's just a tale, meant to show god's wrath, or how hard it was for the jews to escape from Egypt", then why not throw the rest of the bible out too? Who are we to pick and choose from god's holy words?
I've always been realist, but I had never heard of the 10 plagues in such detail, I figured it was exagerated or something. When I read them I was in shock that people could respect and worship such a being, let alone use that tale as a moral guide to living life. Nice brain job!
I will put it like this. I have not read all the postings but God lets everything happen for a reason. God is a just God. And in order for him to judge justly he has to let sin take its course in everyone. He cannot stop things from happening or people will say that he was unjust. Quote Report Abuse atruewomenofgod Female, 47 Killeen, TX
July 27 Baby he will not hear you.....read the whole post and you'll see. He wants to kick me off because I was just telling the truth in what the Word was saying. The is a saying "a warning comes before destruction. atrue Quote Report Abuse belizean007Send IM Male, Private
July 29 Quote: atruewomenofgod Baby he will not hear you.....read the whole post and you'll see. He wants to kick me off because I was just telling the truth in what the Word was saying. The is a saying "a warning comes before destruction. atrue
Reply: There you go telling Lies again. The reason i deleated a few of your thread is because you insisted on degrading this post by your continuous name calling. If you cannot argue your point without resorting to name calling,then you should create your own post or just go elsewhere!
Stay focus "womanof god" Quote Report Abuse cexyME69 Female, Private Lancaster, CA
11:53 am Quote: atruewomenofgod Baby he will not hear you.....read the whole post and you'll see. He wants to kick me off because I was just telling the truth in what the Word was saying. The is a saying "a warning comes before destruction. atrue
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Jul 31, 2006 14:59:15 GMT -5
Now how would you all respond to this? To his response. What I have read from you all is responding to the topic which is correct.
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Post by keita on Jul 31, 2006 22:20:07 GMT -5
So Keita.....tell me your point of view on what happen with the children of Israel. Do you think that God punish people because he loves them? Correct me if I am wrong....was it not because Pharoh disobedience? What does the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit have to do with Pharoh and the children that was held bondage in Eypgt? I am going to try to copy from this other site so you can see what he is saying. you made not see any of my responses because he has deleted the things that I was trying to share with him. But I will see if I can atrue Sis ATWOG, I'm gonna print off and read the the conversation you posted before I answer, okay?
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 1, 2006 6:35:34 GMT -5
Romans chapter 9 is your answer.
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Post by atruewomenofgod on Aug 1, 2006 17:08:34 GMT -5
Krazeeboi........I have share this with him and he has deleted it. I was trying along with others was letting him know that it is nothing how he read it. We kept telling him to read it again to see what was going on and to ask God to help him to understand and he refuse to. He is very rebellious and this borthers me because I can not understand why he thinks that God is evil. He has said that alot of people think that God is a evil God and that's why God has does the things that he do. atrue
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 2, 2006 14:21:23 GMT -5
At this point, you have to let God handle him. There's simply nothing more you can do put pray for the guy.
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Post by Beulah5 on Aug 3, 2006 20:44:07 GMT -5
God is not a democrat.
He owes nobody nothing. Those of us who have been favored to receive grace let us hubly receive it and work our salvations out with fear and trembling instead of worrying about logic and fairness.
When has man been fair to God or given Him consideration?
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 3, 2006 23:45:41 GMT -5
^Which is the point of Romans 9.
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