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Post by stillfocused on Jan 8, 2007 17:04:49 GMT -5
Beck.I know that he was sentenced to die by the Isalmic law..yet, my only concern for this man in his dying..is this ....Do anyone attempt to let him know about the Lord ? It was soul and not anything else..
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Post by Nikkol on Jan 8, 2007 21:29:24 GMT -5
This question has taken so many different ways. Just some points that I wanted to pull out
1) I believe that everyone has an opportunity to accept or reject the gospel. Christianity isn't something that would be foreign to them. Additionally, I am a firm believer that if you really are seeking for truth, you'll find it.
2) Like Beck said, it was Islamic law. Same as the person I believe in Africa was going to be killed for having a baby outside of wedlock after her child was weaned. Different areas have different punishments. Our "corporate punishment" is the electric chair but moreso I hear of "lethal injection". Other countries "cane" people. So, according to what he did, his punishment fit the crime according to Iraq. Whether corporal punishment should be abolished or not is a different story......
3) Some people wouldn't see anything wrong with marrying ppl that are 13. I believe that Mary was said to be between 13 and 15 when she married Joseph. Also, there are still countries that have arranged marriages and many of the OT marriages that we read about were arranged in one way or another
A person's culture will decide greatly what is considered wrong or not. It's just important that if things aren't "black and white" that we are careful not to say that something is wrong. (this is very general, not about anyone in particular). I guess it all comes down to a person's culture.
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Post by auneeqsol on Jan 8, 2007 22:45:12 GMT -5
I understand the law..yet, we can't dismiss the role that our leaders played in all that has happened..and just a thought...Are ready for the same kind of punishment to take place on our soil...as America is quickly becoming an Islamic country ? Because they don't live by the rules governed here when they move here. Just a side note I watching Dateline last night and they showing how many were willing to hook up with a 13 yr to have sex..one man was from the Middle East and he was not aware that it was against the law to have sex with a 13 yr old. That scenerio showed me that he not did not only did not know the law..yet, had no regret for it. First thing ... America will never be a Islamic country.. Second thing is america had nothing to do with Sadaam Murdering families and killing Muslims who didnt agree with his views. If you are talking about training and providing weapons for war, thats something different. Sadaam wasnt killed for that.. he was killed for something else. Of course a muslim person who reads the haddith would think that its okay for a muslim to have sex with a minor.. after all the prophet muhammed had sex with a 9 year old and married her. Getting back to sadaam... Justice was served according to his beliefs, my only concern is that he didnt know Christ as Lord and Savior. Its not like he never had the chance to accept Christ or learn more about him... Its a choice he made and ... you reap what you sow. I gotta say Amen to that, only because to me thats the real issue here, that Saddam Hussein did some horrible things even things that go against the laws in America. Im sorry but I have to agree that the seeds that you sow will grow and you would have to reap that harvest. |
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Post by Beck on Jan 9, 2007 10:03:38 GMT -5
Beck.I know that he was sentenced to die by the Isalmic law..yet, my only concern for this man in his dying..is this ....Do anyone attempt to let him know about the Lord ? It was soul and not anything else.. I think thats the concern of every christian when we hear of someone being killed. Sadaam was over 60 years old and a devoit muslim. Im sure he has heard the message of the gospel and judging by his last few remarks.... he didnt accept Jesus because he was still going on about Allah. We CANNOT compare what he did to what the Apostle Paul did...because when paul was confronted he accepted it and thus his name was changed....and he was one of the greatest missionaries in the history of Christianity. We can desire for the world to be saved... but its up to everyone to make a choice... Sadaam made his... and all we can take confort in is that God is a Just Judge.. |
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Post by stillfocused on Jan 9, 2007 11:22:07 GMT -5
Beck..I understand all your points and they are valid...yet, how can we say that he died a Muslim..we don't know what transpired the last minute..the last hour..or even the final hour of his life. I am not if anyone else has seen or heard this..yet, I myself..saw a picture of him in court and when I read the article there was a statement as bold as that read " GOD IS ALIVE !!" from the lips of a condemned man. What can be of that ? Is it a "jailhouse confession" or 'just a ploy to something changed" ? Saddam accepted his sentence and his death and died whether we like or not he died with a peace within himself...and just maybe he did have a conscience..I don't condone what he did; yet in the eyes of those who live in that our leaders are no better than he is..
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Post by Beck on Jan 9, 2007 11:24:46 GMT -5
Beck..I understand all your points and they are valid...yet, how can we say that he died a Muslim..we don't know what transpired the last minute..the last hour..or even the final hour of his life. I am not if anyone else has seen or heard this..yet, I myself..saw a picture of him in court and when I read the article there was a statement as bold as that read " GOD IS ALIVE !!" from the lips of a condemned man. What can be of that ? Is it a "jailhouse confession" or 'just a ploy to something changed" ? Saddam accepted his sentence and his death and died whether we like or not he died with a peace within himself...and just maybe he did have a conscience..I don't condone what he did; yet in the eyes of those who live in that our leaders are no better than he is.. Not trying to be funny sister...but Actually we do know what happened the last minute,seconds of his death... I saw the video.. he was cursing and telling them Allah would deal with them. |
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Post by stillfocused on Jan 9, 2007 11:27:52 GMT -5
I didn't see the video..and if it as quesome as it seems I don't want to see it....WOW !!
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Post by Beck on Jan 9, 2007 11:31:16 GMT -5
I didn't see the video..and if it as quesome as it seems I don't want to see it....WOW !! Well I only saw what the tvs showed right before they dropped him. they showed him being walked up to the place and with the rope being put around his neck...they didnt show the actual drop... but If you want to see the entire thing..im sure you tube has it. |
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Post by auneeqsol on Jan 9, 2007 14:24:53 GMT -5
Oh yeah we saw it on youtube. And yes it was understood that he was giving praise to Allah in his last words. I believe he was reciting some verses from the Quaran and then he paid allegiance to Allah. That was his choice.
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Post by stillfocused on Jan 9, 2007 15:18:03 GMT -5
I really don't want to see it..
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Post by Grace on Jan 12, 2007 19:00:55 GMT -5
What I think people are missing is how far reaching his death is to all of us. Many may say or think what are you talking about. I know here its been a center of major debate especially since it has been reported that a 10 year old boy after seeing Saddams execution committed suicide. Bottom line the whole thing being aired on the internet or on television was totally inhumane and it shouldn't have taken place. Even here in the US we don't broadcast our executions.
We live in a sad sad world.
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