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Post by stillfocused on May 8, 2007 12:57:34 GMT -5
I have been looking for 2 things that I have not been able to find..and I need help !!
Does anyone know where in the Bible it states that when someone commits a sin they must stand before the church and confess the sin ?
And the other is where a brother has been send of the fellowship and had not been restored ?
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Post by Nikkol on May 8, 2007 14:08:09 GMT -5
Matthew 18:15-20
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. 18 Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
James 5:16 seems to be the one possibly for confession:
16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much
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Post by Rachel2 on May 8, 2007 15:45:20 GMT -5
James 5:16 seems to be the one possibly for confession: 16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much I don't think this means that a person is to confess before the entire church. I don't think that would be wise. "Confess your faults one to another" in my opinion means to find one or maybe two people you "believe" you can trust and confess to them only. Confessing in front of the entire congregation could bring you great sorrow....  |
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Post by stillfocused on May 8, 2007 15:57:14 GMT -5
Matthew 18:15-20..is good for when a matter cannot be settled..I looking for another verse that will back up this practice..
Confessing before the entire congregation I do not believe is what James was talking about in that passage of scripture..if that was what that really meant...alot of people would get up on the act and the sin and forget about restoration.
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Post by stillfocused on May 9, 2007 13:23:10 GMT -5
I know somebody knows the scripture verse I am looking for regarding to restore the brother who had been kicked out the fellowship and had not been restored..
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Post by keita on May 9, 2007 14:38:01 GMT -5
Hey sis SF! In 2 Corinthians chapter 2, it says, ... 6 For such a one this punishment by the majority is enough; 7 so you should rather turn to forgive and comfort him, or he may be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8 So I beg you to reaffirm your love for him....Confessing in front of the entire congregation could bring you great sorrow.... Ya got that right, my sister! Yet, if we are gonna be real about it, many times that very "sorrow" is exactly God, and Paul, intended. |
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Post by Beck on May 9, 2007 15:01:03 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think you are looking for that passage in 2 thess chapter 3....
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Post by nina2 on May 9, 2007 16:27:57 GMT -5
Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. Maybe?  |
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Post by stillfocused on May 9, 2007 17:24:27 GMT -5
Thanks..guys !! I read Galatians 6..that wasn't it..I will check out the others too !!
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Post by nina2 on May 10, 2007 7:29:29 GMT -5
It looks like Keita had the one you are looking for... (Hi Keita  ) It starts here: 1 Corinthians 55:1 It is actually reported that sexual immorality exists among you, the kind of immorality that is not permitted even among the Gentiles, so that someone is cohabiting with his father’s wife. 5:2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you have been deeply sorrowful instead and removed the one who did this from among you? 5:3 For even though I am absent physically, I am present in spirit. And I have already judged the one who did this, just as though I were present. 5:4 When you gather together in the name of our Lord Jesus, and I am with you in spirit, along with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5:5 turn this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. They obeyed Paul's instructions and he wrote back again saying: 2 Corinthians 25 If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you, to some extent—not to put it too severely. 6 The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient for him. 7Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8 I urge you, therefore, to reaffirm your love for him. 9 The reason I wrote you was to see if you would stand the test and be obedient in everything. 10 If you forgive anyone, I also forgive him. And what I have forgiven—if there was anything to forgive—I have forgiven in the sight of Christ for your sake, 11 in order that Satan might not outwit us. For we are not unaware of his schemes. *** And if it's not the one, you have a lot to dive into already! |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on May 10, 2007 10:04:07 GMT -5
stillfocused,
Did you really need the scriptures or did something happen and you are trying to find scripture to back up the action but you are finding that it is not in the bible. I've been wanting to ask this since the opening thread but held off to see the responses.
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Post by stillfocused on May 10, 2007 11:08:22 GMT -5
AWSOY...there are some things that we hear and even preach that is not found in the Bible....there is some things that I am gaining new perspectives on and it's those things of the past that really does not produce the fruitfulness. Such as I can tell someone to forgive another..but, can I do the same when I have been wronged ? Can I tell someone be still and know that he's the God of the impossible and not take off running when I can't see my own way straight ? There is really nothing to discuss..I really want the biblical foundation for an act that is practiced in many of our churches.
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Post by auneeqsol on May 10, 2007 12:01:17 GMT -5
The scripture that ppl use to make ppl stand up in front of the church is found in 1 Tim 5:20 the reason why I know is that , that's the scripture my pastor used many times, as the saints had to stand in front of the church. I told you I grew up under strict holiness, and Ive seen a lot , and heard a lot. But that is the one he used even though we can see how that applies to leadership, but the ole saints didnt care..lol
And the other one is found in 1 Corinthians and i think someone had posted it already
So you see the scriptures are there but they sometimes take them out of context
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Post by stillfocused on May 10, 2007 12:21:34 GMT -5
Agreed..even though things maybe done...there is often the missing part of restoring that person.
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Post by keita on May 10, 2007 13:42:45 GMT -5
I really want the biblical foundation for an act that is practiced in many of our churches. |
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