Post by ybrown on Sept 6, 2005 10:18:27 GMT -5
From a Christian blogger @ beyondtherim.meisheid.com/
Vox Day, an outspoken Libertarian blogger has focused his attention on the problem of women in crisis leadership positions. I point this out only to illustrate the issues involved and the dialog going on around those issues.
The Christian Church has been arguing this issue of women’s leadership for almost a century and it has severely divided the Church. I should note that this division is not really over Scripture, since the Word is clear on the normative issues, while allowing for the rare exceptions. The division is over the continuing validity of that Word to speak to modern sensibilities as well as post-modern concerns.
Well those modern sensibilities and concerns are being given a test on the Gulf Coast by the aftermath of Katrina. There are some strong critiques coming out this crisis about women in leadership, especially those like Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco. Here arethree (four) samples from Vox postings that take quotes from the NRO site to illustrate the critique.
What do these statements illustrate? Just that some conservatives are using the event to bash women? I don’t think so. I think we are seeing something much deeper. We are seeing what happens when God’s order and plan for humanity is laid aside on a wholesale basis. Yes, there are significant exceptions both here and in the Bible, such as Deborah and others. But, to take exceptions and make them the rule will lead to chaos if God is true and his design for humanity thwarted.
It is only under times of severe stress that we see the real deal, when all the support structures of process and program are stripped away and you are left with people and what is inside of them, both socially and corporately but especially individually.
God gave us roles for a reason and that does not abrogate stepping outside of those roles on occasion and when necessary. But we need to ask ourselves, does this situation illustrate something we should discern about the direction of our society, Western Civilization, and how we have transformed the contexts handed to us by God for our welfare and the governance of the human race, or is it an anomaly and we needn’t concern ourselves with the deeper issues?
As Christians who hold the “faith once delivered”, we need to discern the moment, discern the time in which we live, and discern if God is trying to show us something important. Many may not like the thrust or implications of this posting. That is not my concern. My concern is the one with whom I have to do, the one in whom I trust, and in whom I live and move and have my being. What is he trying to tell me? Am I willing to listen, if indeed he is speaking? I believe that he is, and I feel I need to say to all those who read this, “Let him who has an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the Churches.”
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Any truth here?
Vox Day, an outspoken Libertarian blogger has focused his attention on the problem of women in crisis leadership positions. I point this out only to illustrate the issues involved and the dialog going on around those issues.
The Christian Church has been arguing this issue of women’s leadership for almost a century and it has severely divided the Church. I should note that this division is not really over Scripture, since the Word is clear on the normative issues, while allowing for the rare exceptions. The division is over the continuing validity of that Word to speak to modern sensibilities as well as post-modern concerns.
Well those modern sensibilities and concerns are being given a test on the Gulf Coast by the aftermath of Katrina. There are some strong critiques coming out this crisis about women in leadership, especially those like Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco. Here are
- As I wrote before, it wasn't merely Governor Blanco's tears that were the issue, it was the complete absence of leadership capability they indicated.
- L-LO quotes a reader: "This woman [Louisiana Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco] is lost and looks lost. She may have won the election but she has no business being in charge of anything. Watching her on TV the last two days has made this pretty clear. Now is not the time to be sobbing. She sure as hell should not be doing it on the tube in front of her fellow citizens – the ones looking to her for leadership."
- JPOD: the governor of LA is emotionally broken. She keeps speaking of "trying to figure out" how to evacuate people; "trying to figure out" how to put refugees somewhere else, etc. As you noted, she can't even say that looting is wrong; the most outrage she can muster is "where are they taking the loot to, anyway?" She can't even see that her brokenness demonstrates that no one is in charge, and the more that people see that, the more utter chaos and lawlessness are spread.
- I'm just kind of curious, what else was everyone expecting? Most women crack under even minor pressure and having thousands of lives at stake in the wake of a natural disaster and knowing that your decisions will likely condemn people to death is a tremendous responsibility. (Taken from posts between 8/31-9/2)
What do these statements illustrate? Just that some conservatives are using the event to bash women? I don’t think so. I think we are seeing something much deeper. We are seeing what happens when God’s order and plan for humanity is laid aside on a wholesale basis. Yes, there are significant exceptions both here and in the Bible, such as Deborah and others. But, to take exceptions and make them the rule will lead to chaos if God is true and his design for humanity thwarted.
It is only under times of severe stress that we see the real deal, when all the support structures of process and program are stripped away and you are left with people and what is inside of them, both socially and corporately but especially individually.
God gave us roles for a reason and that does not abrogate stepping outside of those roles on occasion and when necessary. But we need to ask ourselves, does this situation illustrate something we should discern about the direction of our society, Western Civilization, and how we have transformed the contexts handed to us by God for our welfare and the governance of the human race, or is it an anomaly and we needn’t concern ourselves with the deeper issues?
As Christians who hold the “faith once delivered”, we need to discern the moment, discern the time in which we live, and discern if God is trying to show us something important. Many may not like the thrust or implications of this posting. That is not my concern. My concern is the one with whom I have to do, the one in whom I trust, and in whom I live and move and have my being. What is he trying to tell me? Am I willing to listen, if indeed he is speaking? I believe that he is, and I feel I need to say to all those who read this, “Let him who has an ear listen to what the Spirit is saying to the Churches.”
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Any truth here?
