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Post by LANL on Nov 29, 2005 9:37:20 GMT -5
Greetings Everyone!
I have a question:
How do you all who are African Americans, feel about our Caucasian brothers and sisters using the "N" word so casually?
I have a friend who is white and the other day we were talking about dating and we were laughing having a good time.
However there is a secular song that is out named "Golddigga" and the words of the song says I'm not saying she is a goldddigga but she ain't messing with no broke Niggas"
So my friend who is white quoted that song in our conversation by saying she is looking for someone to date that she ain't no golddigga but she ain't messing with no broke niggas".
I freaked out, not on her but inside I was really torn, bcuz my friend who is not prejudice didn't mean any harm as I said we were having a good time.
but later that day I was just thinking when the "N" word become so acceptable, that white people are feeling free to use it without any remorse or thought behind the demeaning reality of that word?
And when did we (blacks) stop thinking about the real meaning behind that word?
What do you all think?
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Post by Guess on Nov 29, 2005 14:43:40 GMT -5
I have a problem with both blacks and whites using the word. ANYONE using the word, I don't like the word at all.
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Post by stillfocused nsi on Nov 29, 2005 23:10:07 GMT -5
No matter how you say it or spell it..the word is not cool.
I remember a time not too long ago..that when anybody called you a nigg** a butt whipping was guaranteed. When did it become okay? When many became desensitized the fact that the word wasn't a name you should be calling your best friend..and when the hip hop nation began to use the word in a way that glorified drugging, murder, fighting, paying respect to one another, greeting one another, and making money all while influencing a generation and culture with the ugliest word found in Webster's dictionary.
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Post by lanl ns on Nov 30, 2005 9:30:36 GMT -5
Greetings everyone  In regards to the "N" word, and if memory serves me correct according to the new Hip Hop generation the Word Nigga is an acronym meaning the following: Never Ignorant Getting Goals Accomplished (NIGGA). With that being said, the Hip Hop generation took a negative term/ word and gave it a positive definition. And that there is a big difference in the word ending in "a" as opposed to "er" / "ar". What do you all think about the new spin Hip Hop has given this word......... I saw Kanye West on TV last night interview with Barbabra Walters and he said that he could use the "N" word all day long and not get criticized but that if Barbara used it she wouldn't be on TV anymore. Barbara Walters said she just couldn't use the word period because it was so offensive to her. Is this a new generation thing? I am apart of that generation and I am shocked by how acceptable this word has become. |
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Post by jasmine nsi on Nov 30, 2005 19:25:08 GMT -5
if both white and black can be considered 'NIGGA" then the term still remains to meaning Ignorant. Regardless to how african americans try to change it.
Honestly, some african americans are still bound to the slave mentality.
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Post by stillfocused on Dec 1, 2005 1:15:14 GMT -5
Jasmine..interesting that you mentioned still being bound to slave mentality..good point. We all know that life and death is in the power of the tongue..and using words like to address a generation binds them to the negative mentality that comes from hearing demeaning words all the time. Sadly, because there is a generation that has become so far removed from the fight for freedom from slavery to The Civil Rights..they don't realize that the influencers they are listening is speaking death into the very being of our culture. Ask 10 African American teens who invented the sewing machine, the stop light, peanut butter, shoes and to name 2 African American who were inventors, and those who made millions during the Harlem Reneissance era..they wouldn't be able to do so. Because their educational level has been limited to a few. Take the same 10 ask them to name a wealthy woman in the Bible who blessed a King with wealth beyond measure and they wouldn't be able to do so..but, ask them to name 2 rap stars, 2 dances, and give you lyric to a Tupac hit and they would be able to do. For the record where I come from white people didn't call you nigg**; they call you nigga or niggra..the pronouncation and the spelling was different..but, it still meant the same thing. Changing the spelling of the word because to becuz doesn't change the meaning; it just changes the spelling and look of the word. Sending my luv(love) to ya (you) all in the name of Geezus(Jesus). As for the new spin; if what comes out your mouth isn't understandable, foul, filthy, and just plain disgusting..you're still showing your ignorance no matter how try to change the meaning of a word..that will not lose the definition that Daniel Webster (a Christian) gave it.
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Post by stillfocused on Dec 1, 2005 1:21:26 GMT -5
And just maybe alot of the changes we see in the spelling of words by the hip hop culture is..just maybe they cannot spell or for some even read..
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Post by lanl ns on Dec 1, 2005 9:20:36 GMT -5
And just maybe alot of the changes we see in the spelling of words by the hip hop culture is..just maybe they cannot spell or for some even read..  |
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Post by jasmine nsi on Dec 1, 2005 12:15:16 GMT -5
When I lived in California, one of the members found a dictionary that someone had threw out and it was created sometimes in the early 1900's. The dictionary gave these definition in this sequense
NIGAR (another name for Nigg**)= Black. then it said :See black for other definitions:
When he read out loud what black meant in this dictionary, if you could only see the faces of the members. It read from what I remember:
Black: dark, Unclean, Dirty, Void, Ignornant...Not white.
I have a friend who was born in louisianna, during the early 60's...His birth Certificate under the race slot says... NIGAR.
I believe their intentions is to take a word so negative that many continue to use, and will do, and make it sound positive. However, we exploit, and teardown our ownselves better than anyother race on this planet, and I do not discount those who had a hand in its makings, However this is one of the reason's we (a race) still call ourselves as "niggas". The mind has not been changed.
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Post by stillfocused1 on Dec 1, 2005 23:18:12 GMT -5
Lanl..good point !! I just thought about something..alot of people who use the nigga so loosely would be highly offended and shocked if they went "down South" and found out that there is no such thing as "other" under race. From what I remember if you had an ounce of negro blood in your system' you would are considered to be a negro..no, matter if you were light enough to pass for another race. I cannot stand the word..in either spelling. How true does the word of God ring true when it says that my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. We are the only race does not know our native tongue; therefore we cannot speak it; as our ancestors were not allowed to. So, we don't know the dialect of our Fathers.
This generation does not understand that many of those who were enslaved were Kings and Queens; this the truth that was not passed on by many families. As many may have considered that to be a part of the past and letting of go of the legacy of their family hertiage was looked at a way to get over the ugliness of slavery. I have often wondered what would become of a race if everyone realized that they their beginnings...and roots..have a foundation in royalty.
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Post by krazeeboi on Dec 2, 2005 3:23:52 GMT -5
Greetings Everyone! I have a question: How do you all who are African Americans, feel about our Caucasian brothers and sisters using the "N" word so casually? I have a friend who is white and the other day we were talking about dating and we were laughing having a good time. However there is a secular song that is out named "Golddigga" and the words of the song says I'm not saying she is a goldddigga but she ain't messing with no broke Niggas"So my friend who is white quoted that song in our conversation by saying she is looking for someone to date that she ain't no golddigga but she ain't messing with no broke niggas". I freaked out, not on her but inside I was really torn, bcuz my friend who is not prejudice didn't mean any harm as I said we were having a good time. but later that day I was just thinking when the "N" word become so acceptable, that white people are feeling free to use it without any remorse or thought behind the demeaning reality of that word? And when did we (blacks) stop thinking about the real meaning behind that word? What do you all think? I actually had a White friend of mine do the same thing. We were at work, and she said something with "nigga" in it. She then said that she had used the term with _________ (another one of our co-workers that she was cool with) in the past and they had no problems with it; she then said that if I didn't her using the word, then she wouldn't. I really didn't know how to take it, I mean I was really taken aback. I mean we are cool and often joke around and things like that, but that one really threw me for a loop. I do admit that I sometimes use the word, but it IS rare that I do. Everything out of my mouth is not "Nigga this, nigga that." It's a term that I really try not to use, but sometimes it does slip out. |
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Post by krazeeboi on Dec 20, 2006 3:50:02 GMT -5
OK, so what about the Michael Richards incident?
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Post by MsKayLander on Jan 1, 2007 21:37:16 GMT -5
It's interesting. We (general) get so up in arms when someone who is not black uses the N word. But if we (general) are talking to our "peeps", we use the word like everyday vocabulary. I just find it amazing that this has caused such a backlash. It's just like the fact that most blacks feel OJ did it, but won't say it in mixed company. Rosa Parks didn't do anything more than what the two people BEFORE her that did the same thing... why did she become the poster child for civil rights??? lighter, better family structure... We are the ones that are so concerned about race, we are prejudiced against our own... christians against none. we separate ourselves and consider it okay when we are ALL supposed to be children of GOD. love it or hate it... the N word is just that...a word... you can take offense if you want, but since it don't apply to me, I don't take it as offensive...
My two cents.... maybe....
DISCLAIMER: in the immortal words of Nikki... this may or may not be my opinion! ;D
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Jan 2, 2007 16:23:32 GMT -5
It's interesting. We (general) get so up in arms when someone who is not black uses the N word. But if we (general) are talking to our "peeps", we use the word like everyday vocabulary. I just find it amazing that this has caused such a backlash. It's just like the fact that most blacks feel OJ did it, but won't say it in mixed company. Rosa Parks didn't do anything more than what the two people BEFORE her that did the same thing... why did she become the poster child for civil rights??? lighter, better family structure... We are the ones that are so concerned about race, we are prejudiced against our own... christians against none. we separate ourselves and consider it okay when we are ALL supposed to be children of GOD. love it or hate it... the N word is just that...a word... you can take offense if you want, but since it don't apply to me, I don't take it as offensive... My two cents.... maybe.... DISCLAIMER: in the immortal words of Nikki... this may or may not be my opinion! ;D I have wondered the same for some time! |
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