100 years later Azusa street revival

[G3]

Sista Kay, there was also a parallel of the "Pentecost Experience" 2000 years ago and the Azusa Fire. Both had a tremendous explosion that was broadcast through out the regions. Many onlookers mocked and made fun of only to be swept up in if not away by the glory. Many upon many recieved Christ as a result of the experience. But follow very closely the foot steps and personalities of the "anointed ones" in the book of Acts. At one point all had all things in common flowing in the spirit of Love. Then the feeling of "neglect" raised it's ugly head and that's when it started. Notice how as they moved further away from "Pentecost" that divisions, splits, schisms, leader preference, and racism crept in. Paul, during his great evangelism found himself alone and foraken requesting only his parcel and cloak from Timothy.

This was never the Father's intention. But because of personalities and the ability to reason with the free choice of man, the Father "permit it". But in their division He yet demonstrates Satan's defeat through the saints and pervailing Word through out the world to all who recieve Him and His Word.

But it's all good. And we know that all things work together for the good and is beneficial to everyone who loves the Lord and who are called according to His purpose in spite of isms, splits, division or the apostates.

[MsKayLander]

But how much more powerful the BODY could be if it functioned TOGETHER instead of each part functioning by itself....

[livinganewlife]

I just received a letter and went to the website and IMO, this event is just as commercialized as all the rest of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jasmine]

So true misskay..so true.

[MsKayLander]

As large as the international bodies under COGIC and COOLJC... if they had remained united as a body, some of this MESS happening in the WORLD would have stopped before it was FORMULATED... you may not agree with me, but that is my opinion... A house DIVIDED can not stand... a BODY separated, CAN NOT function PROPERLY... it can function, but not without defects... which we HAVE IN THE BODY OF CHRIST!!!!!

There has been one gathering, that I know of, of all the bodies that began at Azusa. That was many years ago at the Meadowlands Arena in NJ. Those men that started under Bishop Lawson, who started under Bishop Haywood, who started under Bishop Seymour, who started under Bishop Parham who brought them all in at Azusa... these Bishops have been divided since splitting over denominational and doctrinal differences and you can see how that divides, it happens almost every day on this board. Do we at any time realize how different things would be if those great men had remained united? We wouldn't have COGIC, PAW, COOLJC and those other "organizations"? We would be able to worship together and speak with one voice and one mind and saying the SAME THING just like at Pentecost. Yes, GOD saw "fit" to let it happen, but was that His plan or the devices of the enemy to divide us so that we would not be as powerful... to cause us to bicker over clothes, baptism, women, divorce and the like. Do you realize that these groups split over these very issues? Because on thought one thing, the other thought something else and they couldn't come together and seek GOD on the matter. To me, this whole thing is sad in the fact that I don't believe that GOD is pleased with what has happened to His body... it's all broken apart....

[Nikkol]

Actually this goes towards when "Catholocism" became the world religion and they tainted true Christianity. Ever since Luther, the quest has always been to go back to how it was. And as time continues, there will be more people living ungodly and less people living for God. Many will be deceived following demonic doctrines as well as having itching ears. Must needs this be? According to the Word, this is what is happenening and continue to happen until Jesus comes. All we can do is be holy and live according to the Word of God and allow the scriptures to be our guide.....

I say all of this to say that it really goes beyond COOLJC vs COGIC vs. BAPTIST, etc... it goes back to when Catholocism was pushed as what true Christianity was and more people heard of this than the pure unadulterated Word. Thank God that Luther made the step away from it... however he still held onto some very Catholic doctrines which weren't correct.......


Side Note: Now you know that this was going to be very commercialized... even Charisma has this as the major article on the front cover.

[MinLisa]

G3 in your earlier replies .... you have really trigger my memory.. those days of Old..as little girl growing up.. staying at church until the wee hours of the morning....the tarrying Services{Jasmine} wow... The hunger for righteousness... was so strong..

[G3]

Hey Lisa, wasn't those some precious memories?

There six things that the Father hates. The seventh one is an abomination. And that seventh one is discord sown amongst the saints. Discord is what divided the angels. There was discord between Cain and Able. There was discord between Issac and Ismeal. There was between Jacob and Esua. There was discord between the sons of Jacob. There was discord between the 12 tribes. There was discord between the two kingdoms. There was discord between the Apostles before Pentecost. There was discord between the Saints after pentecost. There was discord between the Apostle after pentecost. From christianity to catholicsism to reform to prurity to methods to holiness and so on.

All of these were never the Father will. But from these discords, divisions and apostates the Father is pruning and purging those who endure to the end. O the Father gonna get His. From this hand pruned endurers the Father will present to Himself, a glorious magnificently radiant hand pruned from the creative hand of the Father a remnant of shonuff fire (persecuted) baptized saints of God.

[MinLisa]

G3, I really see what you are saying about discord, MY OPINION.. i feel discord did have a part of what happen... from the days of old unto now..

I've always wonder what happen, why things have change so in the churches, the love for God has waxen cold.........People have change...etc..etc..etc.

maybe church has come commericalize...to the point you have to act a certian way in church.. You know... quote" it don't take all of that"

But when anointing come on i just hit floor wailing, crying, nose running.. I don't care what people think... that how I was brought up in church,...it has never left me..

and it's sad to say some think it's strange to do it..

[G3]

Some say it don't take all that (true, it doesn't). But let anyone experience the unceasing tears, the runny nose, wild hair, untucked shirt tail, one shoe on and one missing, kneeling with the hands gripping the knees hunched back and bowed head. And then rise with radiance feeling cleansed purged forgiven with a fresh fregerance in the air and unceasing praise and worship. They would never, ever say "it's don't take all that"

I think back on the persecution and racism of how it birth the civil rights movement. This persecution unified and galvinized the "christian people of color". Looking at christianity as a whole, and even before chistianity during the times of the Patriart and kings, how the complacent attitude of the people towards God and man, that it always create a lukeness. But when they were persecuted, through the crushing (The Olive that produces the anointing oil) and beating (The Candlestick that unifies) they sanctified themselves and cried out in one voice to heaven. There was a prophetic scene in the Garden of Gethsemane. That word Gethsemane means "to press oil". The book of Hebrews speaks of the tremendous anguish Christ went through in the garden. How He cried unto the Father in His humanity for deliverance. But praise God, when the oil began to flow as drops of blood, under the anointing those famous words were uttered.NOT MY WILL BUT THY WILL BE DONE.

Those who seek to live according to His will in obedience to His Word will suffer persecution (pruning and purging for increased fruit bearing). Those who are complacent will be chastized by fire. Some will repent, some will be consumed.

I pray that the church try not to make what happened 100 years into a "new wave" revival. God won't be in it. If you hear there is a fresh anointing being poured out in commemoration the "Azusa Fire", do not entertain that wave. It will be man made. DON'T CONFUSE SENSATIONALISM and ECSATICTISM as a move of the God-head. It's substance that endures[/i]. If anything there first must be a cleansing and sanctifying of the hearts and the people. Not in locale, but in general.

Though this took place in L.A. (the city of angels is now called the city of fallen angels), the state of California is it's mother and she is on borrowed time. What is needed is prayer for the people of California. That day is approaching soon.

[hezsweetiknow]

g3 said:

Some say it don't take all that (true, it doesn't). But let anyone experience the unceasing tears, the runny nose, wild hair, untucked shirt tail, one shoe on and one missing, kneeling with the hands gripping the knees hunched back and bowed head. And then rise with radiance feeling cleansed purged forgiven with a fresh fregerance in the air and unceasing praise and worship. They would never, ever say "it's don't take all that"

All I could think of was CeCe Winans song you don't know the cost of my alabaster box.

[auneeqsol]

Oh man, I can even remember being in COGIC (round bout the early 80's till the early 90's) I can say I truly did grow up in COGIC , I remember those conventions in LongBeach, and the trips to San Diego, and other places, when we had to go to the "District convention"and all. and I remember the powerful services we used to have. As a matter of fact in COGIC is where I was intoriduced to God really. I was 4 yrs old, yes 4 and I remember giving my life to Christ...lol I can remember it today, at that moment I didnt understand a whole lot, but I knew God was real. Now dont get me wrong i've done a lot of things since then, Im not going to tell you I was truly saved since the age of 4...lol but that was my first experience with God that i remember. But just the standard that they had then, I dont see it now, things are much different. But i miss those days tho.

Another thing I wanted to say on a different note. I understand what happened on Azusa Street and what it means even today, but my question is, The Holy Ghost was given on the day of Pentecost, and then after, when was it "lost" so to speak to the world, or to the Western World? Or was Azusa Street the mark of the Holy Ghost being introduced to the Western World?

I mean the Holy Ghost has been given already, is this a "charismatic" thing that we embarked on? Or is it that the "gift(s)" was just stirred up? Because the HolyGhost has always been in the earth since the day of Pentecost.

Just Wondering....