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Post by MinLisa on Apr 5, 2006 10:17:27 GMT -5
What are your thoughts about what happen 100 years ago on Azusa Street.. do you beleive there is a different now and then dealing with the Anointing of God/Holy Ghost..etc..etc Click on Link to read more about it www.azusastreet.org/Their First newspaper  |
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Post by kanyon on Apr 5, 2006 11:03:44 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder what kind of church we would have today if there would have been true obedience from the leaders that initially came out of that move.
For instance, we know that the move came out of the humble supplication of a black man.
The next thing we read is that different whitemen from the south have started new movements or denominations, hence all of the different Pentecostal groups.
I also wonder if the original people blessed would have followed the Lord, if the civil rights legislation would have been needed as the Hoy Spirit fell on North America.
Just wondering...
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Post by MinLisa on Apr 6, 2006 16:15:45 GMT -5
something to really think about Kanyon
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 6, 2006 21:56:04 GMT -5
Kanyon..does pose an interesting question. Yet, sadly it was those around William Seymour that caused what God was to cease. Yes, many denominations did arise out of Azusa Street and not all them were started by White men. Bishop Mason was a Baptist minister at the start of Azuza street; he desired more and when to CA to get it. He left filled with the Holy Spirit and wanted to teach the same thing to others..who were at the Baptist and they rejected it.. sometime later the COGIC was started. There was reported that there was fire in the vicinity; but, the it wasn't a natural fire. As the revival continued on; people started getting leery of what was happening and started questioning things. Since Mr Seymour was so trusting; his secretary ended up running off money and that put a damper on what was happening. I can't remember it all; but, it was divsion that caused the revival to cease. If you want to find out more; see if you can Robert Liardons series on the many who were and doing great things for the Lord when disaster, tradegy, or other things caused what was happening to cease. Aimee Simple McPherson, AA Allen, William Seymour, and a few others were those he did a video series on. I know it started with Generals of and I cannot remember the rest. I will see if he has a website or information available how to get those tapes.
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 6, 2006 22:06:52 GMT -5
The name of the video series is God's Generals
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Post by livinganewlife on Apr 7, 2006 9:24:08 GMT -5
Bishop Mason was a Baptist minister at the start of Azuza street; he desired more and when to CA to get it. He left filled with the Holy Spirit and wanted to teach the same thing to others..who were at the Baptist and they rejected it.. sometime later the COGIC was started. The COGIC was started prior to Azusa Street, Bishop Mason founded the COGIC in 1897, but he experience the actual baptism of the Holy Ghost at Azusa. COGIC was started because Dad Mason knew that there was something more, he just didn't have the entire fulfillment of the HG. |
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Post by stillfocused on Apr 7, 2006 20:47:46 GMT -5
LANL..sorry about the wrong starting date of COGIC.
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Post by livinganewlife on Apr 8, 2006 8:57:51 GMT -5
LANL..sorry about the wrong starting date of COGIC.  |
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Post by G3 on Apr 10, 2006 17:10:09 GMT -5
If anyone familiar with "Saints Home C.O.G.I.C" know's the history of Azusa. My family goes back generations to Azusa by way of Saints Home. Before the racial split between the blacks and whites christian, Amie Simple Mcphearson was a "short lived" member of that church (because of the division she left and start her ministry on Glendale blvd. in Echo Park). This congregation was visited by the likes of John Alexander Dowie and Maria Woodworth Etter. The Pastor of Saints Home at that time was Bishop Driver (fellow minister with Mason) and whose grandson was also late Bishop Driver who was also my pastor when I was a little boy.
Saints Home still stand today on 21th and Cental in L.A. It was sold recently (protested by many black christian across the nation because this was the mother cogic church of all cogic in the west) to a Hispanic pentecostal congrgation. 3rd and 4th on San Pedro is the Location of the Azusa Revival that is now cobble stone alley way in "Little Tokyo" in down town L.A. which the city of Los Angeles do reconize as historic event with a "Historic Plague". My Church home in L.A. (West Angeles) own the rights to the "Original" site on Bonnie Bre.
If you have an opportunity, take your bible and go and sit in the warmth of the sun, close your eyes and meditate on the Word and that word what's been deposit in your spirit. Listen to what will flow from your inner most being. UNSPEAKABLE!
There was a saint who I personally knew who spoke a word of prophecy over me and my life who died recently at the age of 105 who was at that time a surviving famous twin. Oreatha Herdon (Mother Herdon) was the one who laid hands and prophesied over me. Anyone who is a historian of COGIC know the story of Oreatha and Leatha. Their mother attended Azusa street. But in their own home they experienced (that was witness and documented by the police and FIRE department) the same FIRE that was in the "Upper Room", the Holy Ghost infilling.
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 17:24:59 GMT -5
Wow G3 you pulled it from yonder.
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Post by G3 on Apr 10, 2006 18:35:32 GMT -5
I'm still young, but I am "Old School Chuch House". I remember the glory days as a youngsta during the West Coast version of the Memphis Convocation, L.A. style at Saints Home C.O.G.I.C.. Streets parking were packed bumper to bumper in all diection. Service would start at 7pm but you would have to get there about 5. I remeber our family parking and walking 3 and 4 blocks just to get to the church. I remember in the back of the church was the annex. The mothers and deaconesses would be back there frying up that chickin and catfish. It was guaranteed you would be there 'till 2am. I remember Evangelist Dixon from Texas (also raised from the dead) preachin up and down the isle. There was very, very few who were called "Prophets". If you were one everyone and there momma knew it. There was so much respect and reverence for a man and woman of God. Just the fact that he or she was in the midst of holy people the air of conviction would be present for the sinners and few backsliders. The alter would be packed with the contrite. In the back in the tarrying room was always full. Back then, people wanted cleansing. People wanted the Holy Ghost back then. Not for things or money. But to part of and connected to. They want that power to pray and to resist back then. That power to lead and set an example. We need to retrace our steps to back then. To the "old land marks" It was a genuine hunger back then. Hmmmm? Back Then? Sounds like the makings of a good song or a message. Back Then! We need this that was that like it was "Back Then" In comparison to "back then", This ain't That!
It was so Holy back then. I was a young person and knew holiness when it walked in. There was no way in all of God's creation could "any sinner" come in the presence of a congregation of Holy Ghost holy people and "not" fall under the power that was present in those meeting. With my own eyes I witness a man who had died in service brougth back to life. I remember the choirs singing with such anointing and power. Songs like "The Promises of God" "He Satisfies Me" To My Father's House" "O Taste and See". The list goes on and on.
O how I long for those days again. My generation in the church was a "bridge" that linked a true prophetic and powerful body of saints to what we see today. One group understands where I'm coming from, while the other will get offended and defensive. We don't even reconize each other as "saints" like we use to anymore. We're believers today. Even I at times catch myself saying the "B" word. You know what's funny. Satan is a believer and he yet trembles. But he ain't and never will be called a "saint".
X and Y generations, don't hate for what I said, just feel me. Thank God that you're striving. I understand what you're up against. Your senses are bombarded with the wiles of the wicked. The glory that my generation and the generation before me walked in must be transcended by the glory of your generations because the wicked seeks to sift you like wheat. But I read in the Word of how strong you guys are and that the ability to overcome abides in you all. So just grab a hold of the hand of my generation as we take hold of the old generation, that we may together experience of how it was, "Back Then".
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Post by Jasmine on Apr 10, 2006 19:26:46 GMT -5
My taste of COGIC came well after 1996, by that time the church was short of mothers. However i remember as a little girl, going to tarry service. Everybody gathering at the altar wit their hands in the air. I remember people walking through the doors and mothers crying out "loose here". Definitely these things do not occur even in the COGIC as we know it today.
Nowadays you can't tell the real from the fake (well you really can, but you know what I am implying). It has been so commonly used that you were to fake it till you make it. I also believe that the difference is that there really is a LACK of true reverence. We have gotten away from preaching and teaching the CROSS. Everything now is give God $10 dollars and he'll multiply it 3,6, 100 hundred fold. Not that anything is wrong with that, but do we really believe that its holiness or hell. Do we really believe that we need to get our house in order, because the Lord is soon to return.
The enemy has fooled us into believing that all these trivial things, are what matter, cause there is time to get it right. The focus has to long been on building up your earthly storage. Get it while your here. You don't have to wait until you get to heaven to receive your treasures.
I must say, and I believe that God still has a remnant. There are many still walking in the ways of holiness. Those are the individuals to be emulated in this days.
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Post by G3 on Apr 10, 2006 19:35:18 GMT -5
Jas, this is my heart desire. That this Josiah generation, in their youth crying out for the Holiness and Standards of God. O Lord this is my heart.
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Post by MsKayLander on Apr 11, 2006 6:56:03 GMT -5
The sad part about the whole thing is the fact that they were ONE and split because of denominational differences. I just don't believe in my heart that is what GOD desired. It was one sound they all had and then divided into many... Azusa was great, the outcome because of the split was not so great.
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Post by ybrown on Apr 11, 2006 8:35:19 GMT -5
I think a revival that's not one of God's making will come from this gathering. No matter what happens, no matter the lack of Spirit that actually befalls, folks will tout that a greater revival took place than 100 years ago because just a repeat of what happened a century ago isn't enough for us "God-manifest-your-pow'ver" hungry saints. We always need more, not to demonstrate His power, but ours.
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