Why?

[Jasmine]

Livinganewlife wrote:

My leader will allow ANYONE who requests to come in and review the books of the church. We operate on an OPEN DOOR policy, and whether you contribute FINANCIALLY or not you have right to know.

I dont think it would be wise to allow just anybody to view the books. Members who contribute they have a right to know, even though some of them don't need to see the books. But if you are not contributing, then there is not one obligation to share anything with you regarding the financial status of the church. if you are a member and you have not been a financial help..shame on that individual

Didn' mean to hijack the post.

[G3]

PM is a good way to address personal responses. Remember this an open board viewed by all and the goal is to keep a healthy consistant flow of the posting and the spirit.

[G3]

It's all good Jaz

[anointedteacher]

misskaylander said:

Misskay.... your response is nothing but an personal attack within.... and manifesting a spirit of discord.... Not of God

AT - I think you got it twisted... I was responding and replying to your attack from the comments on the Threshing Floor. I went to the event and if I may quote, your comment was:

Look at the Threshing Floor posts JBW conference..... Those that went ,... was blessed. I watch how others were seeking faults from those that went. Looking for something to use as an attack. They left the threat alone when they could not get those who went to criticize the conference. Than someone with a critical spirit came in with an attack, saying she didn't bring the Ark in with the horse.s... This is not the operation of the Holy Spirit, but an attack of the enemy using those who called themselves Christians, those in the Church. Somethings, are just not expedience to talk about, but to pray.

My response of not giving the enemy fodder was to counteract what I thought was going to be an attack from the person that you were referring to in this post. So, how is my statement, not of GOD? Please explain....

No, your post shouldn't be deleted, but we have to be careful what we say when we DEFEND... we can DEFEND and not become DEFENSIVE... oftentimes we attack when it is not necessary and that was in response to your post.

It was not an attack... it is an example of an attack within the Body of Christ.... I am sick and tires of the fault finders and the spirit that's inoperation.... It is a good example how we discredit those God put in the front line. It is done more within the Body than those who in the media and through this nation. We speak things without investigating the truth or get a good understanding of what going on. We plant negative seeds in the spirit of God's people and those who not even saved,... about a leader, who may be a true servant of God. It is call Discord....

We can not talk about the attack on Christian by the media, goverment, and the nation as a whole,.... when we are our biggest enemy.... That what by post was about..... I used the threshing Floor post as am example.

AT

[MsKayLander]

gotcha...

[livinganewlife]

jasmine said:

Livinganewlife wrote:

My leader will allow ANYONE who requests to come in and review the books of the church. We operate on an OPEN DOOR policy, and whether you contribute FINANCIALLY or not you have right to know.

I dont think it would be wise to allow just anybody to view the books. Members who contribute they have a right to know, even though some of them don't need to see the books. But if you are not contributing, then there is not one obligation to share anything with you regarding the financial status of the church. if you are a member and you have not been a financial help..shame on that individual

Didn' mean to hijack the post.

To clear this up: We have a business meeting at the end of the year and ANYONE who wants to attend can do so and we discuss every penny of the church's money and where the funds were allocated.............

We allow anyone to review the finances because people support and give to the church in more ways than just financial giving....even though that is very important....

Now back to the topic at hand

[And Such Were Some Of You]

*putting on moderator's cap* (which I really don't like to do)

[Beulah5]

Great thread!! Thoroughly enjoying the discussion -why do you have to put on mod's cap ASWSOY?

Is anyone interested in a post entitled: Escape from Reason?

[stillfocused]

The question of why is a good one. There are many reasons that the world and especially our country has turned it's back on the very foundation it was founded on. Too often we rise up to defend our standards, our by laws, and many traditions..all the while losing ground with those around us are unsaved, unchurched, and just plain ole uninterested. Because the spirit of compromise has crept into our congregations, our leaders, our churches, and us, even our homes. It has become exceptable for someone to name the name of Christ and expect others to follow them. God is looking for a remenant of people who will stand and not be moved by the threats of death, financial ruin, and etc all for his namesake...a people who rise up and declare what the Lord wants to say and not care about what others think..

[G3]

Praise the Lord

I see you're still focused and good response. You nailed it with the "Remnant of people". In these last of the last days in present day ministry of the Holy Spirit the Father is yet pouring "OUT OF" His Spirit on all flesh, but upon His "Handmaidens and Servants"(those uncompromised, unreligious and non-traditional workers of the gospel plow) He is pouring His Spirit in a immeasurable way for the sole purpose the "greater work" unlike what we seen in the past. This out pouring upon the "Heart Servants"(Remnant) will consumed them in urgency with a heart cry in the spirit first for the House of God and then the world. Each "remnant part" will have their unique burden that will differ from the next. But the flow will be so harmonious in the unity of the Spirit that it will be difficult distinguish each uniqueness. Like the colors of the rainbow though we see the colors, the blending of colors is difficult to see where one leaves off and the other begin. So will it be in the flow of the Spirit.

One of the main characteristic of this flow of the Remnant is "Transparency". Just like what Christ testify of the Holy Ghost, that "He will speak not of Himself but He will glorify Me", so shall it be with this remnant, unlike what we see today, everyone want and need to be seen on the great platforms of our gatherings arrayed in such expensive coverings proclaiming their anointings (which Christ said to avoid). This remnant will be consumed with a zeal of "turning the hearts of the children back to the Father".

[inhishand]

g3 said:

Praise the Lord

I see you're still focused and good response. You nailed it with the "Remnant of people". In these last of the last days in present day ministry of the Holy Spirit the Father is yet pouring out His "OUT OF" His Spirit on all flesh, but upon His "Handmaidens and Servants"(those uncompromised, unreligious and non-traditional workers of the gospel plow) He is pouring His Spirit in a immeasurable way for the sole purpose the "greater work" unlike what we seen in the past. This out pouring upon the "Heart Servants"(Remnant) will consumed them in urgency with a heart cry in the spirit first for the House of God and then the world. Each "remnant part" will have their unique burden that will differ from the next. But the flow will be so harmonious in the unity of the Spirit that it will be difficult distinguish each uniqueness. Like the colors of the rainbow though we see the colors, the blending of colors is difficult to see where one leaves off and the other begin. So will it be in the flow of the Spirit.

One of the main characteristic of this flow of the Remnant is "Transparency". Just like what Christ testify of the Holy Ghost, that "He will speak not of Himself but He will glorify Me", so shall it be with this remnant, unlike what we see today, everyone want and need to be seen on the great platforms of our gatherings arrayed in such expensive coverings proclaiming their anointings (which Christ said to avoid). This remnant will be consumed with a zeal of "turning the hearts of the children back to the Father".

Are these are the signs of the remnant? Would they be accepted by the "Church"? or Would they be like the Prophets of the Old?

[G3]

They will not be accepted by the "traditional and religious" church and they will "operate as the prophets of old. They will be more "oracle" and less demonstrative but their words will be compelling.

[inhishand]

How do you know you are part of the remnant church? Are these are the Apostolic/Prophetic churches.... Not selfmade, but the true Apostles and Prophets that are call to sound the alarm?

[G3]

Oh you will know. Not to sound redundit but an important characteristic will be the lack of intrest to be "titled or labled as a called anointed one". Their main consuming zeal will be the cleansing of the temple of God (collectively and individually) and fulfilling their Father's will or the burden that deposited in their spirits by the Holy Spirit.

How do one know? What consumes your thoughts? How well do you sleep at night? How often do you awake at night found praying for holiness and restoration? In spite of one's status in this life, how less appealing are the common things of life and it's traditions and consuming are the things of God are? Is there an extreme burning in your inner most being that seems to burn hotter and more brigther whenever you express the voice of God? What is your attitude towards the condition of the church and it's fellowship (not relationship) with the Father? Lastly, does your burning convictions seems to oppose mainstream religion? If so, you are of the few.

This is and can not be self induced, it of a heavenly and divine call. This calling will have you stoned, cast out and left for dead. Talked about and shoned. Labled a heretic and out of the will of God. No pulpits in the common church will not allow your presence. You'll be crushed as an olive. Beaten into His image. And by the fire of opposition, you'll be purified as gold. All the more your words that you echo will leave them burning on the inside and leave them powerless.

[And Such Were Some Of You]

g3 said:

Oh you will know. Not to sound redundit but an important characteristic will be the lack of intrest to be "titled or labled as a called anointed one". Their main consuming zeal will be the cleansing of the temple of God (collectively and individually) and fulfilling their Father's will or the burden that deposited in their spirits by the Holy Spirit.

How do one know? What consumes your thoughts? How well do you sleep at night? How often do you awake at night found praying for holiness and restoration? In spite of one's status in this life, how less appealing are the common things of life and it's traditions and consuming are the things of God are? Is there an extreme burning in your inner most being that seems to burn hotter and more brigther whenever you express the voice of God? What is your attitude towards the condition of the church and it's fellowship (not relationship) with the Father? Lastly, does your burning convictions seems to oppose mainstream religion? If so, you are of the few.

This is and can not be self induced, it of a heavenly and divine call. This calling will have you stoned, cast out and left for dead. Talked about and shoned. Labled a heretic and out of the will of God. No pulpits in the common church will not allow your presence. You'll be crushed as an olive. Beaten into His image. And by the fire of opposition, you'll be purified as gold. All the more your words that you echo will leave them burning on the inside and leave them powerless.

amen!