Why?

[G3]

From your views why is there so much focus in the "media" in discrediting the views and values of the bible when all other religions including the muslim faith are untampered with?

Why is there such a tremendous "legal" attack in our judicial system against the bible while all other faiths and religions go untouched?

Why are these attacks coming from the very nation that once held to it's "Christian Truths" and not outside entities?

[Jasmine]

Satan is the prince of power of the air..I believe that include air ways (media sources). People spend so much time watching tv, watching dvd's, watching the Computer, surfing the internet, listening to Ipods, Listein to the radio.People aren't reading like they used to.

Christianity is attacked because it is the truth! The media's attempt is to desensitize the saints, and discredit the bible's teaching.

I have seen some reports showing that 86% of america is professing Christianity as their religion. With so much things that we allow to happen here in america..that is a crying shame!

[G3]

Jaz, when Zion travails....it shall birth.

We know what was prophesied that these very things shall come to past in the last days. We see the signs all around us. Nature! Wars! Racism! Economy! Many coming in the name of Yeshua and declaring their anointing! Declaring and not bearing.

It is amazing how much of biblical prophesy is being unfolded right before us. I have read articals that even the skeptics are bracing for, in their understanding, the end of the world refering to biblical writings and at the same time the church seems to be in a state of slumber with no urgency of heart. The only urgency that is preeminent with the church is what's deposit in the bank account and not what's in the spirit account.

In my spirit this is very alarming. The cry in my spirit is very heavy and alarming. I Find myself in unceasing zeal for the House of God that is consuming my every thoughts. In my spirit it's seem as if we are pitted against a clock. A spiritual clock that is ticking ever so quickly. In my spirit I sense that the Father is going to do a quick work, and in rightiousness it shall be cut short. I see the acceleration and spreading of pestilences and famines globally but ever more increasing in America.

The past 20 years has been a period where the enemy has sown his seeds in the church through doctrine, world affiliations, and value compromise. Now we are in a slumber of what's is trully happening in the prophetic historicall and presently. Because iniquity has abound the love of many has wax cold. The Father says we have fallen and have sliddenback away from our first Love which is Him. Sure we do all the machanics that is christian, but we are loveless. Just spinning our wheels and going through the motions of religious relationships without communion of true fellowship

Sorry for getting carried away, but I can't help it. The zeal of my Father's House has consumed me as I watch it wither as parched dry bones in the valley of deep dispair. But I hear His voice. That same voice that asked the question. The same queston 2600 years ago, can these bones live? The answer is, YES!! But they must be prophesied to in order to live. And how shall they be prophesied to unless someone is sent? And who shall go? We have gathered in the world and we assimulate with the world, and the world has assimulated with the church. This is where the "Threshingfloor" is "seperating" the wheat from the chaff. With His fork readied in hand, the wheat and chaff shall be tossed in the wind of prophecy that will seperate the chaff and burn it with fire of His indignation. The prophecy will be not your general prophecy of social well being, but of order and spiritual assessment of ones holy life and spiriual service.

[krazeeboi]

Two words: last days.

[keita]

g3 said:

Jaz, when Zion travails....it shall birth.

Amen! And God expedites the delivery even more than "when" as He, Himself lovingly midwifes His Woman:

"Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child." (Isaiah 66:7)

This is where the "Threshingfloor" is "seperating" the wheat from the chaff. With His fork readied in hand, the wheat and chaff shall be tossed in the wind of prophecy that will seperate the chaff and burn it with fire of His indignation. The prophecy will be not your general prophecy of social well being, but of order and spiritual assessment of ones holy life and spiriual service.

Amen! We must remember that the ultimate purpose of the threshing floor is to provide bread... a process with purpose.

[anointedteacher]

g3 said:

From your views why is there so much focus in the "media" in discrediting the views and values of the bible when all other religions including the muslim faith are untampered with?

Why is there such a tremendous "legal" attack in our judicial system against the bible while all other faiths and religions go untouched?

Why are these attacks coming from the very nation that once held to it's "Christian Truths" and not outside entities?

We are our biggest enemy.... We attack our own brothers and sisters in Christ, than those who are standing outside of Christian faith. Instead of protecting those who are in the front line, we help the media destroy and kill. The Church is doing more than sleeping, they are the enemy within, they are fault finders and heresy hunters. They do more harm and damage to their own body ( the Body of Christ) than anyone esle.


Look at the Threshing Floor posts JBW conference..... Those that went ,... was blessed. I watch how others were seeking faults from those that went. Looking for something to use as an attack. They left the threat alone when they could not get those who went to criticize the conference. Than someone with a critical spirit came in with an attack, saying she didn't bring the Ark in with the horse.s... This is not the operation of the Holy Spirit, but an attack of the enemy using those who called themselves Christians, those in the Church. Somethings, are just not expedience to talk about, but to pray.

I, myself have experienced the hardness of heart and coldest from those who say they are not only saved, but minister of the Gospel of Christ, right on this board.

In these last days there are a great falling away.... I'm not speaking of those who left the church (building), but those who are sitting in the pews and standing in the pulpit. Those who are out for self gain $$$ at any cost and not about the souls, the widows, the poor, fatherless and the sick.

AT

[MsKayLander]

Let's not give the enemy any fodder.... we can modify the last post or choose not to respond....

Food for thought....

[livinganewlife]

misskaylander said:

Let's not give the enemy any fodder.... we can modify the last post or choose not to respond....

Food for thought....

I am sorry but I got to respond

Anyway:

AT the problem is not the church attacking the church one of the problems is that we are afraid to hold our leaders and non leaders alike accountable.......

If there are Christian filmmakers and producers who are working within the media than they need to raise the standards and lift up Jesus and not allow lies to spew from the media outlets.

If I can not ask my Bishop what happened to that $1,000,000 that was raised for the homeless shelter than who is at fault me or him?

I have a right to question any leader or member in the body of Christ; just as I have a right to ask any Muslim, Buddhist, Sun Yon Moon or any person who proclaim something as truth...............

When did questioning constitute one not operating in the Holy Spirit?

[anointedteacher]

misskaylander said:

Let's not give the enemy any fodder.... we can modify the last post or choose not to respond....

Food for thought....

This is what I mean..... Speaking the truth is not opening the door to the enemy

It need to stop

AT

[And Such Were Some Of You]

*sigh*

[G3]

Daniel prophesied of the "abomination of desolation" of that "holy place" by outside entities trampling under foot the sacred place of the Most High.

Know this that you are that Holy Place and the Dwelling Place of the Almighty. This abomination of desolation has taken place in the hearts of the people of God by allowing outside influences and it's characther to violate the sanctuary of the Most High by way of the media and dissention within the body of Yeshua. Beloveds we must guard our hearts with all diligence and place a watch at the door. By doing so we will cast out that what doesn't minister grace to the hearers.

This is a general posting and not directed to no specific posting. But the posting is directed to a specific group of determine Believers who defy the "burning of strange fires" at the alter of God. Who refuses to compromise in bending the knees and bowing of the head to that is not God and holy. Who, with the attitude of heart that says, "BUT IF NOT" even though I know He is "well able" to deliver, I refuse to compromise.

God is speaking to the hearts of His people to come up higher. To seperate yourselves from the "very appearance" of ungodliness so that your good will not have a evil report. Our lives and words are read of all man who wait in secret to bring an accusation against the House and it's Builder. The world is trodding under foot and undermining the Truth of God and this is an abomination that desolate the hearts of the elect who sways to it's influences. That is why it is of an extreme urgency that the Body stand firm and under girded so that in wisdom and readiness we are able to bear the infirmities of the weak and restore in the spirit of meekness knowing that all it takes is one quick glance away from Love an sink in the sea of carnality.

G3

[anointedteacher]

livinganewlife said:

misskaylander said:

Let's not give the enemy any fodder.... we can modify the last post or choose not to respond....

Food for thought....

I am sorry but I got to respond

Anyway:

AT the problem is not the church attacking the church one of the problems is that we are afraid to hold our leaders and non leaders alike accountable.......

If there are Christian filmmakers and producers who are working within the media than they need to raise the standards and lift up Jesus and not allow lies to spew from the media outlets.

If I can not ask my Bishop what happened to that $1,000,000 that was raised for the homeless shelter than who is at fault me or him?

I have a right to question any leader or member in the body of Christ; just as I have a right to ask any Muslim, Buddhist, Sun Yon Moon or any person who proclaim something as truth...............

When did questioning constitute one not operating in the Holy Spirit?

Most of the people who question leaders, don't support the leaders' ministry, don't pray for them, don't really know what these leaders doing (most of their contribution that they give out is not broadcaster), and only go by what the heard and not pure fact.

Most people who do the attacking, are not accountable themselves. Don't always keep their words (it can be as thin as water), don't have integrity and speak those thing they don't know nothing about. Why question a leader over the pulpit and speaking discord about something you probably did not support financially, and that you don't really know about. It is nothing but an attack with in....

If I'm not supporting TBN.... I don't need to hold them accountable, they don't need to show me their financial statements and tell me what they doing with all the money they received. Your leader will not allow someone from outside his ministry to come in and request to open up the books to see what he doing with his members tithes and offerings.

WE NEED TO STOP THE ATTACKS WITHIN FIRST, THEN WE CAN DEAL WITH THE ATTACKS IN THE MEDIA, AND WITHIN THIS NATION. A HOUSE DIVIDED CAN NOT STAND.

Misskay.... your response is nothing but an personal attack within.... and manifesting a spirit of discord.... Not of God

I have a right to expression what I see and feel on this board as everyone else.... rather anyone agree with me or not... I have not disrespect or attacked you or anyone on this board.

Do not modify my post.... if you going to delete it, than do what is in your heart. It certainly will not be right.

AT

[livinganewlife]

anointedteacher said:

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If I'm not supporting TBN.... I don't need to hold them accountable, they don't need to show me their financial statements and tell me what they doing with all the money they received. Your leader will not allow someone from outside his ministry to come in and request to open up the books to see what he doing with his members tithes and offerings.

My leader will allow ANYONE who requests to come in and review the books of the church. We operate on an OPEN DOOR policy, and whether you contribute FINANCIALLY or not you have right to know.

How can one invest in something they don't understand. If I am buying stocks in Kellogg's the first thing you receive or should ask for is a financial statements from at least 3 years prior.......and if you request it they will give it to you.......

If the world operates within that system; why can't the church?

[ybrown]

g3 said:

From your views why is there so much focus in the "media" in discrediting the views and values of the bible when all other religions including the muslim faith are untampered with?

Why is there such a tremendous "legal" attack in our judicial system against the bible while all other faiths and religions go untouched?

Why are these attacks coming from the very nation that once held to it's "Christian Truths" and not outside entities?

G3, truth can withstand anything that scrutiny throws at it, but its important that the saints know the truth. Sadly the attacks won't just come from the world. Soon, the laity will develop great disdain and antipathy toward the religious leaders for leading them away from the ways of the Father.

[MsKayLander]

Misskay.... your response is nothing but an personal attack within.... and manifesting a spirit of discord.... Not of God

AT - I think you got it twisted... I was responding and replying to your attack from the comments on the Threshing Floor. I went to the event and if I may quote, your comment was:

Look at the Threshing Floor posts JBW conference..... Those that went ,... was blessed. I watch how others were seeking faults from those that went. Looking for something to use as an attack. They left the threat alone when they could not get those who went to criticize the conference. Than someone with a critical spirit came in with an attack, saying she didn't bring the Ark in with the horse.s... This is not the operation of the Holy Spirit, but an attack of the enemy using those who called themselves Christians, those in the Church. Somethings, are just not expedience to talk about, but to pray.

My response of not giving the enemy fodder was to counteract what I thought was going to be an attack from the person that you were referring to in this post. So, how is my statement, not of GOD? Please explain....

No, your post shouldn't be deleted, but we have to be careful what we say when we DEFEND... we can DEFEND and not become DEFENSIVE... oftentimes we attack when it is not necessary and that was in response to your post.