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Post by stillfocused on Aug 4, 2006 20:50:05 GMT -5
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I have both of the books you mentioned..The Elijah Among Us..seems to be an overview of the Elijah's List..yet, there are some things mentioned that was not mentioned in the Elijah's List.
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 4, 2006 20:54:19 GMT -5
Giants..I have been in a church where the definition of what you have described as the purpose of prophesy; has been stated as prophey. My question will prophesy always edify, comfort, and encourage ? And can you please give an example of when it won't ? I am not trying to debate here; I just want some clarification.
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 5, 2006 1:22:30 GMT -5
Giants..I have been in a church where the definition of what you have described as the purpose of prophesy; has been stated as prophey. My question will prophesy always edify, vomfort, and encourage ? And can you please give an example of when it won't ? I am not torying to debate here; I just want some clarification. Edify, comfort and encourage is often seen from our slanted point of view when it should be from God's point of view. We often look at it from a " feel good " point of view which is why we often reject a word. For example someone could prophecy the Word of the Lord for judgement against a person, people, or nation. That word has brought edification. To edidy means to instruct especially so as to encourage intellectual, moral, or spiritual improvement. It has also brought encouragement. Encouraging one to do right. If a person heeds the Word of the Lord and repents and turns their heart they have just improved their spiritual condition AND possibly might be spared judgemet (such as when Ninevah repented and was not destroyed ) BUT if in the day we hear His word we harden our hearts THEN we can fall under judgement and we may not perceive the word and edifying or encouraging. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 5, 2006 7:19:49 GMT -5
Giants..I have been in a church where the definition of what you have described as the purpose of prophesy; has been stated as prophey. My question will prophesy always edify, vomfort, and encourage ? And can you please give an example of when it won't ? I am not torying to debate here; I just want some clarification. Edify, comfort and encourage is often seen from our slanted point of view when it should be from God's point of view. We often look at it from a " feel good " point of view which is why we often reject a word. For example someone could prophecy the Word of the Lord for judgement against a person, people, or nation. That word has brought edification. To edidy means to instruct especially so as to encourage intellectual, moral, or spiritual improvement. It has also brought encouragement. Encouraging one to do right. If a person heeds the Word of the Lord and repents and turns their heart they have just improved their spiritual condition AND possibly might be spared judgemet (such as when Ninevah repented and was not destroyed ) BUT if in the day we hear His word we harden our hearts THEN we can fall under judgement and we may not perceive the word and edifying or encouraging. Amen! stillfocused,I have "Thus saith the Lord" as well. |
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Post by stillfocused on Aug 5, 2006 16:56:09 GMT -5
GDD..thank you so much !! I am still learning and beginning to understand that there are times the words in it's proper use maybe not mean what we think it means. Just recently I was looking at word in the Bible that meant something totally opposite of what I thought it meant.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 5, 2006 17:15:51 GMT -5
GDD..thank you so much !! I am still learning and beginning to understand that there are times the words in it's proper use maybe not mean what we think it means. Just recently I was looking at word in the Bible that meant something totally opposite of what I thought it meant. Praise God for Holy Spirit revelation! |
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Post by krazeeboi on Aug 5, 2006 21:13:06 GMT -5
GDD, it appears as though your church has a very balanced view of prophesy. That's very refreshing, as it seems as though many churches are "free for alls" in this regard. I would also assume that you all adhere to the rules governing the announcement of prophecies outlined in 1 Cor. 14, no?
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Post by giantsdodie on Aug 6, 2006 8:37:09 GMT -5
GDD, it appears as though your church has a very balanced view of prophesy. That's very refreshing, as it seems as though many churches are "free for alls" in this regard. I would also assume that you all adhere to the rules governing the announcement of prophecies outlined in 1 Cor. 14, no? In our church you will not see a whole bunch of folks just standing up and shouting out words from the Lord. If a person believes they have a Word from the Lord they get the attention of one of the presiding elders who then gives permission for the Word to be delivered and its not always delivered at that time either. We teach that the spirit of the prophet is suhject to the prophet meaning simply you are in control of your mouth and speech. Oftentimes the person will be asked to write the Word down and it will be read at a different time. If we are in the middle of a healing service it might not be time for that Word of God right now. Also many times the Word is brought before the elders of the church to examine it BEFORE it is brought before the people. We have many who are young in their prophetic gift. Normally for those that are more mature in their prophetic gift (usually the deacons or the mature saints, those the elders have a track record of the anoiting and maturity in their lives) The Word is judged by our house prophet and the asst pastor (judged by two according to the Word ) who is a prophetess immediately as to whether it is God or not and oftentimes the Lord will use them to bring greater clarity and revelation of the Word. |
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Post by G3 on Aug 7, 2006 11:06:40 GMT -5
This is very tempting
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Post by keita on Aug 7, 2006 11:30:53 GMT -5
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 7, 2006 12:33:58 GMT -5
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Post by G3 on Aug 8, 2006 11:24:45 GMT -5
The reason I am hesitant concerning addressing "The Present Day Ministry of the Prophetic" is that must do not want to hear the truth of "why" the prophet are active today. Their "true" existance condradicts most opinions of today and the opinions are not in harmony with the prophets (plural) message (singular).
The present day ministry of the prophet is less demonstrative and more oracle with specifics and details addressing the heart of God's people and His Word. The keen eye of the prophet and his sensitive heart knows "exactly" what the Spirit is saying to the Body Of Yeshua and their message though delivered differently, yet they are harmonious in substance. The purpose of the present day ministry of the prophet is to "TURN the HEART."
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Aug 8, 2006 12:10:31 GMT -5
The reason I am hesitant concerning addressing "The Present Day Ministry of the Prophetic" is that must do not want to hear the truth of "why" the prophet are active today. Their "true" existance condradicts most opinions of today and the opinions are not in harmony with the prophets (plural) message (singular). The present day ministry of the prophet is less demonstrative and more oracle with specifics and details addressing the heart of God's people and His Word. The keen eye of the prophet and his sensitive heart knows "exactly" what the Spirit is saying to the Body Of Yeshua and their message though delivered differently yet them are harmonious in substance. The purpose of the present day ministry of the prophet is to "TURN the HEART." Amen, I agree whole-heartedly. And when did you care whether or not one wanted to hear the truth!! You speak it anyway  |
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