|
|
Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 17, 2008 20:32:23 GMT -5
NOW this can be a fruitful discussion. The WORD has entered into it.
Thanks keita.
|
|
|
|
Post by anointedteacher on Sept 17, 2008 21:34:50 GMT -5
I believe the reason TW sent out this email, is to get to JB... I was thinking, why send out emails about looking for a wife, when sally women are knocking down each other to get to you.
|
|
|
|
Post by keita on Sept 17, 2008 22:22:26 GMT -5
I believe the reason TW sent out this email, is to get to JB... That could very well be, sis AT, but it's assuming that "getting to" JB is even an issue for him. Well, lots of folks, including Christians, seek mates via the internet. Certainly widens the selection pool! Why do you (and sis heaven) refer to women who would be attracted to Thomas Weeks as "silly women"? I mean, a well-known, educated, articulate "Bishop" is making plain that he desires a wife, wants kids, and enjoys sex...a lot. Isn't that pretty much a dream come true for a whole lot of sisters, including JB? Are you all saying that these sisters are "silly women"? |
|
|
|
Post by keita on Sept 17, 2008 23:12:49 GMT -5
... btw, I would add that, even if Ike Turner's, I mean, um, TW's "wife search" (  : is about his sexual desire and drive, Paul said:
Now, concerning the things that you wrote about: It's good for men not to get married.
But in order to avoid sexual sins, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband. (1Cor 7:1-2)
I say to those who are not married, especially to widows: It is good for you to stay single like me.
However, if you cannot control your desires, you should get married. It is better for you to marry than to burn [with sexual desire].(1Cor 7:8-9)
So, apart from the publicity stunt method, what's the problem with TW seeking a wife? NOW this can be a fruitful discussion. The WORD has entered into it.
Thanks keita. My pleasure, sis, because I am seriously asking. |
|
|
|
Post by anointedteacher on Sept 18, 2008 1:45:42 GMT -5
The beating was one thing, but the continuous lying, exposing all JB personal business, betraying her after getting him no jail time, slandered her in the worst possible way, while she try to cover him, by telling ppl he is not a monster, he is a man of God. And he even wrote a book about her, saying she has a drinking and drug problem and bio-sexual... While she sending text love messages to work thing out. After seeing all that.... Yes, you have to be either be silly or deaf, dumb & blind.... After seeing and reading all that.... RUN RUN RUN!!! Not my type.... JB may not have been perfect, but she wasn't the wicked witch of the East
After seeing and knowing what he have done and what he capable of doing... the hot tamper, anger and abusive... Come on...........
|
|
|
|
Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 18, 2008 5:34:55 GMT -5
If JB (who says that she) is over it, why can't we be?
I don't believe his every action is regarding JB. She is NOT all of that and that is also a HUGE assumption to make.
Also, it seems here that some people believe that one cannot be delivered from things of the past....hmmmm
Thanks Lord for delivering me from my wicked, evil ways!
|
|
|
|
Post by giantsdodie on Sept 18, 2008 8:08:43 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by anointedteacher on Sept 18, 2008 10:41:04 GMT -5
If JB (who says that she) is over it, why can't we be? I don't believe his every action is regarding JB. She is NOT all of that and that is also a HUGE assumption to make. Also, it seems here that some people believe that one cannot be delivered from things of the past....hmmmm Thanks Lord for delivering me from my wicked, evil ways! Would U date a person knowing all went on in his pass relationship... especially being displayed on TV, News articles, internets... and observed how he handle each situation (a eye for an eye) God forgive, deliver and restore... BUT.. TW need to take cold showers and rest for a while, don't need another wife, not now.... I still wonder about his motive to send out emails... |
|
|
|
Post by nina2 on Sept 18, 2008 10:41:26 GMT -5
You know I could not turn those topics into any kind of derision, and I know that you don’t either...
My “take” on this at this point is:
- The fact that what happened to this couple has been so highly publicized doesn’t change anything to the reality of the tragedy that unfolded.
- Even for couples who don’t claim to be christian or “religious”, most marriage counselors advise against getting in another relationship while your are still on what they call “the rebound”. Usually, and it’s true – I know, been there, done that and paid to know it is true! – it is a recipe for another disaster.
- I don’t want to get lost in the details, since unfortunately it all came out before, and more than we care to know.
I do think it is sad when – already – it seems to be a given that the only reason why this man – or any man for that matter – is seeking a new person in his life is to satisfy his sexual needs.
I don’t want to get carried away ( and you KNOW I can!) so, what is wrong with TW seeking a wife? Nothing!
As you have shown yourself, it is even VERY scriptural!
The scripture does say “IF” you cannot control your desires. It does not say that it is “unnatural” for men and women to have such desires. So, that’s a major “IF” right there.
Now, if we (general!) want to take it there, then the question is – at least to me – because the scripture seems to infer that, in this case, the purpose of marriage would be solely to avoid “sexual sins” (plural!). At least it specifies for both man AND woman....
Q- Would not that be, in today’s context, an even more powerful reason for somebody to actually “postpone” getting in another serious relationship, and instead first make sure that some things are definitely AND permanently dealt with, not just “under control”?
By the way, that to me would stand for anybody who has faced such drastic circumstances in a marriage and postmarriage situation.
I would say that to me, what is being done re seeking a new wife is “rushing where angels fear to tread” but that might open a door better left closed for now......
|
|
|
|
Post by kitty on Sept 18, 2008 11:18:17 GMT -5
Hey Guys....
Even OJ had women lining up around his gates like stray cats inspiteof all the drama that surrounds him... and the physicall abuse that he did do that came out during his trial...
NOW before anybody goes there... No I don't think OJ was guilty...
But I do think he was a first class jerk.
Kitty
|
|
|
|
Post by livinganewlife on Sept 18, 2008 11:22:16 GMT -5
Paul said: Now, concerning the things that you wrote about: It's good for men not to get married.
But in order to avoid sexual sins, each man should have his own wife, and each woman should have her own husband. (1Cor 7:1-2)
I say to those who are not married, especially to widows: It is good for you to stay single like me.
However, if you cannot control your desires, you should get married. It is better for you to marry than to burn [with sexual desire].(1Cor 7:8-9)So, apart from the publicity stunt method, what's the problem with TW seeking a wife? WOW I have never looked at it quite like that...... Biblically he would be correct in seeking a wife as BTW is a man of God and is only following biblical instruction..... Honestly it is the "world" who has added all the psycho babble that is involved when selecting a mate.......the Bible does not instruct men or women to have themselves "totally" together in order to marry.....it is the world who has put all these specifics in place...... The Bible has marriage in place for specific purposes and reason and it has nothing to do with the "world" selection process.....meaning that TW does not have to be a healthy, happy, wholesome individual in order to marry based upon the scripture given.... A man of God who has a "burning desire" TW should marry to avoid sin...... As saints of God: which one would we rather see a fornicating single Bishop who is trying to get himself together or a married Bishop trying to get himself together...  Thanks Keita for posting that scripture as it is causing me to reconsider some of my thought process...  |
|
|
|
Post by kitty on Sept 18, 2008 12:26:21 GMT -5
I would like to see an married one trying to get himself together...
|
|
|
|
Post by anointedteacher on Sept 18, 2008 13:56:35 GMT -5
I would like to see an married one trying to get himself together... I agree 100%.... Would you marry him? |
|
|
|
Post by heaven on Sept 18, 2008 13:58:11 GMT -5
There's going to be a lot of women that's gonna be attracted to him. But the women I'm talking about are the ones that know about his past, the fact that he just plead guilty to domestic violence 6 months ago and just got a divorce and this will be his 3rd marriage. People do deserve a second chance, but right now He still needs to get himself together. And when I say silly women, I'm talking about the ones that are gonna bypassed all of that and wanna be with him because he is a bishop. Before we really didn't know much about him, but now we do, There should be red flags going up everywhere.
I wonder if any of his spiritual advisers telling him this is a stupid idea. You don't go from one marriage right into another. And he really doesn't even have a lot of requirements, that alone is scary. If any women apply for this, I wonder what's wrong with them cause for a woman to settle for a man that has all of theses issues something has got to be wrong with them.
|
|
|
|
Post by nina2 on Sept 18, 2008 14:21:35 GMT -5
Neither! And, with all due respect, I don't believe that the scripture suggested that.
A single Bishop, imho, has no business being a bishop if he is "compelled" to keep fornicating, and Paul talked about the character and behavior of men in leadership positions in the church.
A married bishop has no business getting married either if he is still trying to get himself together on any level for that matter, but especially when it comes to sexual behavior within the marriage. If he's not together before (and not just a bishop) it won't just "happen" overnight by getting married.
The scripture does say "IF you cannot control your desires, you SHOULD get married."
And if anybody is burning that high, then go ye therefore and batheth seven times in whatever icy water is available nearby...
|
|
is about his sexual desire and drive, Paul said:
