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Post by Nikkol on Sept 6, 2005 15:14:20 GMT -5
The views expressed here may or may not reflect my official opinion. BTW, Who said you could use that line.....LOL I need to start copyrighting things....lol I can get your help coordinating others.... since you're doing that (weddings) now.  |
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Post by MsKayLander on Sept 6, 2005 15:16:01 GMT -5
LOL!!!
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Post by MsKayLander on Sept 6, 2005 15:16:58 GMT -5
oooh, you can now coordinate mine! tell me when and I'll do it for you... I'm serious!!! |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 6, 2005 15:18:43 GMT -5
ummm...well you can get started now.
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Post by blueA on Sept 6, 2005 15:55:46 GMT -5
Pray saints! This one hits close to home....not only did Ellis speak at our Bible conference last year but I saw how this upset my pastor.
I got the impression that there is more to this story than meets the eye....not saying he isn't guilty of something, but I was led to believe it had more to do with ignorance to tax laws.
I don't want to argue his guilt or innocence, I just want to urge all to pray, and pray some more!
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Post by keita on Sept 6, 2005 16:13:37 GMT -5
...I got the impression that there is more to this story than meets the eye.... You are probably very right about that. Amen. As I said before, and hope we will remain clear, debating this man's guilt or innocence was and is not my intention in starting this thread. I do wonder how and why the courts became aware of and involved in this church matter, especially in view of scriptures like this from 1Corinthians 6: 1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. |
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Post by keita on Sept 6, 2005 16:16:01 GMT -5
ummm...well you can get started now. PRAISE GOD!!! |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 6, 2005 16:18:21 GMT -5
so somebody caught the hint!
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Post by lanl ns on Sept 6, 2005 16:46:51 GMT -5
I got to say this "my sister was in the courtroom during this trail, and the statement that got the judge was that the attorney said "Bishop E is not the only one who is doing this that 99% of ALL pastors take from their churches"
The judge got upset and said, "since ALL pastors are doing this than I need to make an example and sentenced Bishop E to 18 months"
From there mayhem broke out in the courtroom.....
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Post by Servant4Christ on Sept 7, 2005 1:29:45 GMT -5
That is what I thought, that perhaps he was being made an example of in the courts. Chicago is a political town, and when you know the right people, more than likely you can get by. There are people he fellowship with that are well-connected. He could have received a possible ten years.
Bishop E is a well-known Pastor and he comes on the Word Channel on Saturday at 11:00 am (CST).
I try to see God's glory in all situations, especially when an ANOINTED MAN OF GOD is involved. I just believe that a whole bunch of folks behind bars are gonna get to know Jesus Christ, and get saved in the process. This is just a temporary hindrance, and will not stop the plan of God.
Also, in the process, a lesson for Bishop E has come at an expensive cost, his freedom.
MissKay, you did not say he was anointed... I did. (lol)
Be Blessed.
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Post by MsKayLander on Sept 7, 2005 8:45:12 GMT -5
Touche
(ASWSOY) - hit me off line....
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Post by Nikkol on Sept 7, 2005 8:46:44 GMT -5
Touche (ASWSOY) - hit me off line.... KAY... don't be promoting violence.....lol |
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Post by MsKayLander on Sept 7, 2005 8:50:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah... I forgot I gave up fighting for Lent....
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Sept 7, 2005 9:40:00 GMT -5
lol...okay misskay, I will
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Post by BlueA on Sept 9, 2005 7:34:26 GMT -5
I do wonder how and why the courts became aware of and involved in this church matter, especially in view of scriptures like this from 1Corinthians 6: We have several people in our church that work in gov't and I believe at one that works for the IRS. It has been circulating and is apparently no big secrect that they are targeting churches. We then got in to a discussion about faith based grant money -- is it a handout or another way for the gov't to control faith-based orgs? That's another topic!!! |
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