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Post by Nikkol on Feb 10, 2009 13:09:46 GMT -5
I just got this book and was wondering if anyone else has this or is considering reading it.
I haven't started reading it yet. I was gonna start last night but I was exhausted.
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Feb 10, 2009 14:17:08 GMT -5
Personally, there is nothing that Steve Harvey can teach a woman of God about how to act or think.
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 10, 2009 15:29:13 GMT -5
Personally, there is nothing that Steve Harvey can teach a woman of God about how to act or think. Why do you feel that way? |
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Post by Jasmine on Feb 10, 2009 16:27:10 GMT -5
cause he's Steve harvey...
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Feb 10, 2009 16:37:39 GMT -5
cause he's Steve harvey... Exactly. This is part of the problem I have with some in the body of Christ. God's word contains all that we need regarding how to behave and how to think as women of God, whether single, or married. But our itching ears thrive on hearing counsel and advice of the world........ "blessed is the man/woman who walketh not after the counsel of the ungodly." I know that some believe that Steve is showing signs that he's moving towards Christianity, and that is absolutely wonderful, but he aint there yet....... When I want to laugh and be entertained, Steve Harvey is there, but when I want instruction on how to think and act as a single woman of God............that's the last place I think of going....... |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Feb 11, 2009 7:20:49 GMT -5
cause he's Steve harvey... Exactly. This is part of the problem I have with some in the body of Christ. God's word contains all that we need regarding how to behave and how to think as women of God, whether single, or married. But our itching ears thrive on hearing counsel and advice of the world........ "blessed is the man/woman who walketh not after the counsel of the ungodly." I know that some believe that Steve is showing signs that he's moving towards Christianity, and that is absolutely wonderful, but he aint there yet....... When I want to laugh and be entertained, Steve Harvey is there, but when I want instruction on how to think and act as a single woman of God............that's the last place I think of going....... I have to agree with Sis. GAP here! Good post. |
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 11, 2009 8:06:45 GMT -5
Well, I started reading it on yesterday and it definitely had some things in it that I had never even thought about in reference to my husband. I even used and example that he gave in his book to see what hubby's reaction would be and it was funny because when I would say that line, I never thought that it would have that effect.... I actually may be finished reading it today.
But if anyone is interested in discussing the book, feel free to PM me.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Feb 11, 2009 9:41:37 GMT -5
we can discuss here - you just may not get the responses you want though..lol
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 11, 2009 10:26:30 GMT -5
LOL. It's just a little easier to discuss if someone else has read or is reading the book.....
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Post by vin on Feb 11, 2009 16:59:31 GMT -5
I have thought about buying the book. I listen to his show in the morning and aside from being obnoxious at times I do listen to the things he says to women about how men think. That's what I'm focusing on, if there is a focus. I'm not trying to convince anyone though. I'm just saying that's why I'm interested in the book. Because it takes us as women inside the minds of men. Yes there are differences in Godly men and ungodly men but there are also many things that are there just because they are men.
I don't argue one bit that the Holy Spirit will teach you, because he's still teaching me how to be my husband's wife. (I'm in the middle of a lesson right now) But I don't believe that buying and reading this book will take away from what the Holy Ghost will show me. And basically I just want to read the book, so I'll probably buy it.
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Post by vin on Feb 26, 2009 18:15:11 GMT -5
I bought the book today and so far I have read the introduction, and a couple of paragraphs of the first chapter. He has already said something that I have been feeling for a long time....that when it comes to understanding men, their behavior, how they think, why they do things they way they do them we need to ask a man, and not a bunch of women. Unless that woman has learned the ways of her man she can't really give you all you need. She can give you the basics, cook, clean, sex...But if that were enough many women wouldn't be doing all of that and still losing their men.
Has anybody ever read the book entitled ....oh my goodness....I think it's called Extraordinary Woman...I'll look it up and get back to you on that...... We studied it in our Sunday School Class a few years back. It was written by a woman who broke down the mind of a man and taught women how to get and keep the respect and love of their man. It was written in the fifties and today most women would think it's a joke. Her husband also wrote a book called A Man of Velvet and of Steel. He did the same think for men that his wife did for women.
I have a feeling that Steve's book will be a lot like those two books. So far so good. He pretty much had me at hello so if a book grabs me on the first page it pretty much has me.
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Post by vin on Feb 27, 2009 0:01:47 GMT -5
Steve says in the first chapter:
"men are driven by who they are, what they do, and how much they make....
These three things make up the basic DNA of manhood - the three accomplishments every man must achieve before he feels like he's truly fulfilled his destiny as a man. And until he's achieved his goal in those three areas, the man you're dating, committed to, or married to will be too busy to focus on you."
There is so much I could say about this but I will share what I heard a man from my church say. He said that even if he likes a woman, before he steps to her there are things that he wants to have in place. He doesn't want to approach a woman without having some things together in his life.
these things may differ among different men but these things do exist, and these things keep men from approaching us even if we are convinced that they are attracted to us.
Women are so ready to support. We are so ready to get in there with our man and help him. We are so ready to tell him, "baby what you need me to do? We can do this! I got you!" But we are often doing this at times when the man feels that it is something he has to do as a man. We get frustrated with them. We feel shut out, neglected, or that there is another woman. But it may be that he is trying to fulfill that "man hole" that God put in him to accomplish things.
He says:
"..until a man does these things , women only fit into the cracks of his life. He's not thinking about settling down, having children, or building a home with anyone until he's got all three of those things in sync. I'm not saying that he has had to have it made but at least he has to be on track to making it."
If we show up in a man's life while he's in the middle of something we will often find ourselves on the outside of his life looking in, trying to get in, trying to prove ourselves, trying to show him that we will be there for him....but it doesn't get through to him.... he's preoccupied. I've experienced this. And if you push too hard during this time, you come across looking like a psycho or unstable, needy, desperate. Ask me how I know.
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Post by Nikkol on Feb 27, 2009 8:26:03 GMT -5
And those three things are emphasized throughout the whole chapter. I think for women, we are made to be supportive. But in our being supportive, we must be careful of not stepping over those boundaries which before I read the book weren't as clear as they are now.
I've been married 11 years and these things are still important to my husband.
It also reminds me of something that Jakes said: Even when we're discussing male relationships with female relationships. Male relationships moreso focus on goals/accomplishments. Ie. What you do for a living, what company, etc. While in female conversations are filled with "Are you married?" How many kids do you have?" "Are you dating?" etc.
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Post by vin on Feb 27, 2009 10:36:33 GMT -5
That's true. I've only read the first two chapters and my head is already clearing up. I've already spotted my ex husband in the book and my friend and how he's handling what he's dealing with now....and what he does NOT need from me while he's handling it.
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Post by anointedteacher on Feb 27, 2009 22:07:39 GMT -5
Steve says in the first chapter: "men are driven by who they are, what they do, and how much they make....
These three things make up the basic DNA of manhood - the three accomplishments every man must achieve before he feels like he's truly fulfilled his destiny as a man. And until he's achieved his goal in those three areas, the man you're dating, committed to, or married to will be too busy to focus on you."There is so much I could say about this but I will share what I heard a man from my church say. He said that even if he likes a woman, before he steps to her there are things that he wants to have in place. He doesn't want to approach a woman without having some things together in his life. these things may differ among different men but these things do exist, and these things keep men from approaching us even if we are convinced that they are attracted to us. Women are so ready to support. We are so ready to get in there with our man and help him. We are so ready to tell him, "baby what you need me to do? We can do this! I got you!" But we are often doing this at times when the man feels that it is something he has to do as a man. We get frustrated with them. We feel shut out, neglected, or that there is another woman. But it may be that he is trying to fulfill that "man hole" that God put in him to accomplish things. He says: "..until a man does these things , women only fit into the cracks of his life. He's not thinking about settling down, having children, or building a home with anyone until he's got all three of those things in sync. I'm not saying that he has had to have it made but at least he has to be on track to making it."If we show up in a man's life while he's in the middle of something we will often find ourselves on the outside of his life looking in, trying to get in, trying to prove ourselves, trying to show him that we will be there for him....but it doesn't get through to him.... he's preoccupied. I've experienced this. And if you push too hard during this time, you come across looking like a psycho or unstable, needy, desperate. Ask me how I know. Did he copy that from He Emotion (not sure of the title) by T. D. Jakes? |
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