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Post by nina2 on Apr 2, 2009 4:44:42 GMT -5
Black and single: Is marriage really for white people?Story Highlights: Growing up Dionne Hill, 28, dreamed of having a career, kids and a husband Study: 43 percent of black women in U.S. have never been married. Despite the bleak statistics, Hill is optimistic that she will find "The One" Until then, she enjoys her work, traveling and spending time with family Full article:www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/07/22/single.black.women/index.html
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Post by true on Apr 2, 2009 22:12:40 GMT -5
I'm just going to go out on a limb and say yes j/k I hope not  |
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Post by nina2 on Apr 3, 2009 4:23:10 GMT -5
OK... Why?
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Post by giantsdodie on Apr 3, 2009 7:30:18 GMT -5
I think its ridiculous to assume marriage is onlyfor white people.. First off everything isnt black and white. Second of all that leaves out a whole contingency of people.. Asians. Latinos, Arabic, etc etc etc
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Post by true on Apr 3, 2009 8:52:25 GMT -5
I guess you didn't notice the j/k there meaning just kidding. I said" I hope not" as a unmarried black woman who desires marriage. |
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Post by true on Apr 3, 2009 8:52:48 GMT -5
I think its ridiculous to assume marriage is onlyfor white people.. First off everything isnt black and white. Second of all that leaves out a whole contingency of people.. Asians. Latinos, Arabic, etc etc etc I totally agree |
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Post by nina2 on Apr 3, 2009 9:43:44 GMT -5
Actually, I did miss the j/k.
Personally, I am just beyond sick and tired of everything having to be or being made to be a black and white issue, period.
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Post by Nikkol on Apr 3, 2009 11:04:44 GMT -5
Actually, I did miss the j/k. Personally, I am just beyond sick and tired of everything having to be or being made to be a black and white issue, period. I think that until ppl can really get to the root of many of these types of issues/thoughts, it will always be there...... |
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Post by nina2 on Apr 4, 2009 4:55:51 GMT -5
I am not going there, Nikkol .....
All I know, is "people" can be anybody, and including the people of God.
And, I also know that back then, on Azusa Street, God sovereignly moved among those who were present, AND that included black and white people.
How quickly we forget.
Whether we like it or not, whether we want to or not, walls are going to be taken down, once and for all.
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Post by krazeeboi on Apr 4, 2009 14:05:02 GMT -5
In this particular instance, I believe it is appropriate to bring race into the picture. A perfect storm has battered Black men for the past few decades to the point that it almost makes us an endangered species. The statistics say enough.
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Post by nina2 on Apr 5, 2009 6:42:14 GMT -5
As a young black man, do you find anything to be relevant to what you said in this article:Have Black men abdicated their Masculine Role in society? - Brutality, Gender and Race Part 4By Philip Dinham Published Sep 26, 2004 www.jamaicans.com/articles/primecomments/genderrace4.shtmlAlternatively, while this has been happening, what has been the "evolution" of women in parallel to the men? Should we generalize and, if it is so widespread, how does this reflect in christian black men today?
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Post by krazeeboi on Apr 5, 2009 19:14:22 GMT -5
^That was a long read and I just skimmed over it, but I believe we as Black men were done in started in the late 60's/early 70's when White liberals and government joined hands and decided that Blacks shouldn't have to work for a living and let welfare become "reparations" for Blacks. And of course, for a woman to receive welfare benefits, a man couldn't be in the home. This made it normal for Black men to simply abdicate their responsibilities as husbands and fathers and a new cultural norm took hold in our communities. Everything for us went to hell from that point on.
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Post by kitty on Apr 7, 2009 20:40:28 GMT -5
Ok Krazeboi,
That was then this is now.... I know of several Black men who are stable, grew up in two parent family homes... where their parents were MARRIED...
And still theu duck and dodge marriage like it is the plague!
Why is that?
Honestly I know what would really work. People need to go back to the old days where we single women weren't so loose and deciding to have sex outside of marriage...
Kitty
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Post by nina2 on Apr 8, 2009 4:43:05 GMT -5
OK, so what we see happening to day is the result of a process that started over forty years ago. That's already, by today's standards, several generations...
Are you saying that, when it comes to black men, it is actually an issue of gender (not sex!) and social identity??
How is the plight of a black man in defining/asserting gender and social identity in this day and age different from that of a white man??
I had to ask because I know for a fact that it would be a big, fatal mistake to even start believing that "white men" have it all figured out. Far from it! They have the exact same issues...
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Post by Nikkol on Apr 8, 2009 11:01:49 GMT -5
Some ppl just don't like to "commit". More than 50% of marriages are ending in divorce. And from the "logical" approach, it would seem like if things are good the way they are, why change it? I was listening to Michael Baisden and someone called in that had been dating a guy for 23 years. They had 8 kids between the 2 of them and there was no even MENTION of marriage. Yet they lived together, paid bills, etc.... just no ring and he thinks all is fine the way it is. And I doubt she's the only ppl in that category.
But being that ppl are giving sex more, for the unsaved, what's the difference between marriage and dating?
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