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Post by anointedteacher on Oct 21, 2009 22:17:31 GMT -5
How would you rsponse to this Lady?
I got this from faebook...
Pastor G. Gregg Murray: Pastor Gregg please post this. I saw your last question. I have been engaged to my pastor for 6 years. He said he was leaving his wife. We have 2 children who cannot know who their father is. He won't file for his divorce. I'm in a double l...ife. I have to see him with his wife and her kids at church. He says he loves me and the kids. God showed him I'm his wife. Please help me.Read More4 hours ago via Mobile Web · Comment · Like / Unlike
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Post by kanyon on Oct 22, 2009 1:36:25 GMT -5
That two timing wolf in sheeps clothing needs to be exposed. Talk about abusing authority. Where did this stuff about 'God showed me he/she was my mate.'come from?
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 22, 2009 7:21:57 GMT -5
God didn't tell her that...that's the voice of the enemy. The reason it's so "obvious" is because you are committing adultery with this guy who's not your husband (and you have two kids with this guy). That's NOT God.
And for those "old schoolers", the "simple answer is that if you marry someone who's divorced, you're in adultery. Therefore, whether he leaves his wife or not, unless the first wife is dead, you'll still be in sin.
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Post by giantsdodie on Oct 22, 2009 8:18:41 GMT -5
That two timing wolf in sheeps clothing needs to be exposed. Talk about abusing authority. Where did this stuff about 'God showed me he/she was my mate.'come from? I have no issue with GOD showing someone who their mate is.. Its happened to me.. and its happened to other people I know... HOWEVER.. GOD is NOT going to show someone who is MARRIED that someone ELSE is their mate. HOW in the WORLD can this woman be engaged to a man who already MARRIED  ? And why do these women alwasy think that if a man is unfailthful to his wife with YOU that when and if he leaves THEM that they will all of a sudden be faithful to YOU ? WHY ?!!!!!! This woman is deceived and in all honesty is willing to be deceived and buys the deception. |
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Post by MinLisa on Oct 22, 2009 10:50:12 GMT -5
That two timing wolf in sheeps clothing needs to be exposed. Talk about abusing authority. Where did this stuff about 'God showed me he/she was my mate.'come from? I have no issue with GOD showing someone who their mate is.. Its happened to me.. and its happened to other people I know... HOWEVER.. GOD is NOT going to show someone who is MARRIED that someone ELSE is their mate. HOW in the WORLD can this woman be engaged to a man who already MARRIED ? And why do these women alwasy think that if a man is unfailthful to his wife with YOU that when and if he leaves THEM that they will all of a sudden be faithful to YOU ? WHY ?!!!!!! This woman is deceived and in all honesty is willing to be deceived and buys the deception. I agree!!! |
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Post by anointedteacher on Oct 22, 2009 12:59:29 GMT -5
God had shown the pastor, not the woman... This man is lying to her.... He is not divorcing his wife.... God did not show him anything about marrying this woman. Engaged to a married man  She have been deceived for six long years... The sad part is the children (the wife & mistress) are involve. This false pastor need to be exposed and removed This woman need to follow the advice from the facebook responses..., Repent and get right with God... know that God love her... Leave ...immediately! cut the man completely loose... Tell her children who their father is while they are till very young and seek child support... The wife (if she don't know about it), the children and congregation or victim in this situation... Nikkol (electlady)... If the wife divorce this adulterous pastor .... and remarry, are in sin? |
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Post by giantsdodie on Oct 22, 2009 22:55:03 GMT -5
God had shown the pastor, not the woman... This man is lying to her.... He is not divorcing his wife.... God did not show him anything about marrying this woman. Engaged to a married man She have been deceived for six long years... The sad part is the children (the wife & mistress) are involve. This false pastor need to be exposed and removed This woman need to follow the advice from the facebook responses..., Repent and get right with God... know that God love her... Leave ...immediately! cut the man completely loose... Tell her children who their father is while they are till very young and seek child support... The wife (if she don't know about it), the children and congregation or victim in this situation... Nikkol (electlady)... If the wife divorce this adulterous pastor .... and remarry, are in sin? People dont like to hear this but the grounds for remarriage in the Bible are quite clear.. If the UNbelieving spouse depart then that person is not bound to that marriage.. And Death... |
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Post by keita on Oct 23, 2009 1:01:16 GMT -5
Praise the Lord, House of Refuge! As usual, there's certainly a lot of excellent advice and wise counsel being offered here.  And because of that, I definitely don't want to detract from or in any way sidetrack this thread. BUT...(since it already went there...  ) With all due respect, and only in love, I must, yet again, completely disagree that: ...if you marry someone who's divorced, you're in adultery. Therefore, whether he leaves his wife or not, unless the first wife is dead, you'll still be in sin. ...the grounds for remarriage in the Bible are quite clear..
If the UNbelieving spouse depart then that person is not bound to that marriage..
And Death...  |
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 23, 2009 8:17:33 GMT -5
God had shown the pastor, not the woman... This man is lying to her.... He is not divorcing his wife.... God did not show him anything about marrying this woman. Engaged to a married man She have been deceived for six long years... The sad part is the children (the wife & mistress) are involve. This false pastor need to be exposed and removed This woman need to follow the advice from the facebook responses..., Repent and get right with God... know that God love her... Leave ...immediately! cut the man completely loose... Tell her children who their father is while they are till very young and seek child support... The wife (if she don't know about it), the children and congregation or victim in this situation... Nikkol (electlady)... If the wife divorce this adulterous pastor .... and remarry, are in sin? People dont like to hear this but the grounds for remarriage in the Bible are quite clear.. If the UNbelieving spouse depart then that person is not bound to that marriage.. And Death... In context, it would be regarding bound to sanctify the spouse. Hence why the verse before talks about sanctifying the spouse and the verse after talks about how do you know if you can save your spouse. HOWEVER I wasn't trying to turn this into a divorce remarriage discussion since that has been exhausted somewhere on this board... but rather just to give responses. And whether we agree with it or not, the end result wouldn't have her marry that man. |
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 23, 2009 8:19:47 GMT -5
God had shown the pastor, not the woman... This man is lying to her.... He is not divorcing his wife.... God did not show him anything about marrying this woman. Engaged to a married man She have been deceived for six long years... The sad part is the children (the wife & mistress) are involve. This false pastor need to be exposed and removed This woman need to follow the advice from the facebook responses..., Repent and get right with God... know that God love her... Leave ...immediately! cut the man completely loose... Tell her children who their father is while they are till very young and seek child support... The wife (if she don't know about it), the children and congregation or victim in this situation... Nikkol (electlady)... If the wife divorce this adulterous pastor .... and remarry, are in sin? People dont like to hear this but the grounds for remarriage in the Bible are quite clear.. If the UNbelieving spouse depart then that person is not bound to that marriage.. And Death... In context, it would appear that the surrounding verses are indicating that she isn't bound to sanctify her husband for the verse afterwards asks how do you know if you can save your spouse. HOWEVER I know we have a thread regarding divorce/remarriage. My point was just to indicate things that could be said that would have the ending result being that she doesn't marry that man. No thread hijacking.... LOL |
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Post by anointedteacher on Oct 23, 2009 10:33:36 GMT -5
People dont like to hear this but the grounds for remarriage in the Bible are quite clear.. If the UNbelieving spouse depart then that person is not bound to that marriage.. And Death... In context, it would appear that the surrounding verses are indicating that she isn't bound to sanctify her husband for the verse afterwards asks how do you know if you can save your spouse. HOWEVER I know we have a thread regarding divorce/remarriage. My point was just to indicate things that could be said that would have the ending result being that she doesn't marry that man. No thread hijacking.... LOL When it come to a husband (saved or unsaved) committing adultery, fathering another woman child, and/or abusive, verbal, physical or emtional/spiritual... that woman should be free to divorce and more on with her life... |
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Post by keita on Oct 23, 2009 12:22:21 GMT -5
My point was just to indicate things that could be said that would have the ending result being that she doesn't marry that man. Oh, I certainly second that desired result, and many of those "things that could be said" have indeed been advised on this thread. So my point is carefully examining that counsel for scriptural accuracy and truth. Because there are A PLENTY church sisters (and brothers) in exactly this kind of trouble. LOL! I'm glad we're in agreement about that! |
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 23, 2009 14:13:26 GMT -5
My point was just to indicate things that could be said that would have the ending result being that she doesn't marry that man. Oh, I certainly second that desired result, and many of those "things that could be said" have indeed been advised on this thread. So my point is carefully examining that counsel for scriptural accuracy and truth. Because there are A PLENTY church sisters (and brothers) in exactly this kind of trouble. LOL! I'm glad we're in agreement about that! Glad we can agree....now if we could all not hijack, that would be good. lol. I do think that we have pretty much answered this question. However, what I'd like to deal with, dealing with the same topic, is what would make a person believe that someone else's spouse would be theirs.... I mean, yes we may say they're stupid, etc....but really...what would make ppl even believe that? |
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Post by Rachel2 on Oct 23, 2009 15:29:14 GMT -5
I do think that we have pretty much answered this question. However, what I'd like to deal with, dealing with the same topic, is what would make a person believe that someone else's spouse would be theirs.... I mean, yes we may say they're stupid, etc....but really...what would make ppl even believe that? Several things come to my mind: 1. She suffers from low-self esteem and self-worth and the mere fact that "pastor" would look her way is more than she could have ever dreamed. 2. She's newly saved with no prior knowledge of God or the church and is a member of one of those "cultish" organizations that indoctrinate (brainwash) instead of teach the true word of God. 3. She hasn't been taught to read and study the bible for herself. 4. She's very young and has no spiritually mature person in her life to give her advice. 5. She hasn't been taught that she needs to develope a personal relationship with God. 6. She may have just gotten out of a bad relationship and was very vulnerable. Maybe she went to the pastor for help in dealing with her broken heart and he took advantage of the situation. Emotions are a powerful thing. AND when it comes to relationships between men and women, too many women lead with their HEART rather than their brain. Situations such as this is one of the reasons God has given me a ministry entitled "For Women Only". Just imagine how many women are living this same kind of lie and worse. They need a safe place to come to and someone who can teach them just how precious they are to God and that HE wants to heal them, set them free and make them whole. |
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Post by Poetricia (G.A.P.) on Oct 23, 2009 15:39:10 GMT -5
I do think that we have pretty much answered this question. However, what I'd like to deal with, dealing with the same topic, is what would make a person believe that someone else's spouse would be theirs.... I mean, yes we may say they're stupid, etc.... but really...what would make ppl even believe that? other than stupidity? walking in the flesh and not in the spirit. desparation. i mean why are we even giving this woman the benefit of the doubt. even an unsaved woman knows what adultery is! she herself says "i'm living a double life" meaning she knows she is wrong and she knows she's living a lie. he may be abusing his authority, but she is not an innocent party here. the only innocent parties are the children and the man's wife. |
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