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Post by lanl ns on Jan 17, 2006 11:59:57 GMT -5
'God Is Mad at America,' Says New Orleans Mayor
Nagin Vows Rebuilt City Will Be 'Chocolate'
NEW ORLEANS (Jan. 17) - Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.
“Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.
"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."
Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.
"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans - the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said.
"This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."
Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights leader.
"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community - black folks I'm talking about - is ourselves.'"
Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"
The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."
Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."
A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday. Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or witnesses.
01-17-06 07:19 EST
What do you think?
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Post by elderbeck NSI on Jan 17, 2006 12:18:50 GMT -5
Thats funny...But maybe it took all this just for him to realize that righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people. Hopefully the mayor will remember God for the remainder of his term.
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Post by keita nsi on Jan 17, 2006 13:07:54 GMT -5
I definitely agree with Ray Nagin that in the absence of its African descendants I think many, including Mr. Nagin, are realizing that... in hindsight.  |
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Post by ybrown on Jan 17, 2006 17:14:09 GMT -5
Nagin needs help.   |
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Post by keita on Jan 18, 2006 13:05:07 GMT -5
LOL @ ybrown's on point assessment!
I wanted to share that as I listened to and read Ray Nagin's comments, I felt led to find and study this scripture:
"Is Saul among the prophets?" (1 Samuel 10:11-12)
Hmmmm...
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Post by ATT on Jan 21, 2006 11:42:54 GMT -5
LOL @ ybrown's on point assessment! I wanted to share that as I listened to and read Ray Nagin's comments, I felt led to find and study this scripture: "Is Saul among the prophets?" (1 Samuel 10:11-12) Hmmmm... The same scripture came to mind when I read the post ;D ;D Is "Nagin" among the prophets? ;D ;DWhy is it, that every time something happen in a black neighborhood, it is a curse against black people. Don't you know white people stuffer from the Katrina. Kita and Wilma too..... Don't you know there were many prophecies from different prophets who spoke that this storm was sent to clean the city.... the city was wicked. The black people in that city was trapped in property from generation to generation. To me Katrina got them out of that hole and set them free for a new beginning in places they thought they will never be. I know many people die in that storm.... and many feel that it couldn't have been from God. A whole generation of people die before they got to the promise land including Mose. They all wasn't rebellious, but God only reserved two, Joshua and Celab of that generation to enter. Andrew flatten South Miami and especially Homestead  All race was affected, but mostly white.... Nobody said that God is mad at White American so He flatten their houses and destroyed their businesses, churches etc. Why they always talk about black on black crime, when white commit crime against each other too.... Why we alway focus on the negative thing of Black People as if we can do nothing right. God Bless ATT |
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Post by MsKayLander on Jan 23, 2006 12:06:49 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, he wasn't the first person to say this and we are making a big deal about it. How about we go back and read the pages and pages of the Katrina post... a few of us said the same thing... why is Nagin's comments so "unscriptural now" |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Jan 23, 2006 13:33:05 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, he wasn't the first person to say this and we are making a big deal about it. How about we go back and read the pages and pages of the Katrina post... a few of us said the same thing... why is Nagin's comments so "unscriptural now"  |
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Post by Beulah5 on Jan 23, 2006 13:37:27 GMT -5
I can't speak for everyone but i can confirm that 'Bee is definitely amongst the prophets!!! Now what is this post about? I only read the last 2 posts  I am tired of this God who does nothing except get mad throughout the ages-if He isnt mad at America, He is mad at Pakistan, if He isnt mad at Pakistan then He is mad at the ocean...and so forth and so on. Sounds like a lot of mad energy. As if the current state of any nation/the world supprises the Lord  Keep keeping it real  |
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Post by keita nsi on Jan 23, 2006 18:36:27 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, he wasn't the first person to say this and we are making a big deal about it. How about we go back and read the pages and pages of the Katrina post... a few of us said the same thing... why is Nagin's comments so "unscriptural now" I won't attempt to answer that question for anyone else but I do want to be clear that none of my remarks had anything at all to do with Nagin's comments being scriptural/unscriptural. |
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Post by ATT on Jan 24, 2006 8:24:13 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, he wasn't the first person to say this and we are making a big deal about it. How about we go back and read the pages and pages of the Katrina post... a few of us said the same thing... why is Nagin's comments so "unscriptural now" I won't attempt to answer that question for anyone else but I do want to be clear that none of my remarks had anything at all to do with Nagin's comments being scriptural/unscriptural. What he said is scriptural,..... We see judgment throughout the Bible against, cities and people. The question is "DID GOD SPEAK" ...... Was Nagin's comments came from God or from his own reasoning and thoughts. When making such a bold public statement on national TV.... saying God mad at American and Black folk.... it should come from God and not the flesh. Nagin just need to surrender his self, his city and his position to God. Those storm didn't just hit black people, many people right here in South Florida lost everything. All I had to deal with is being without light for two weeks.... some was just left with their car. ATT |
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Post by MsKayLander on Jan 24, 2006 9:22:03 GMT -5
But how much stuff do we say out of our flesh and it ain't from GOD? I'm not faulting Nagin cause carnal man doesn't understand the things of GOD. But a WHOLE BURNCH of Christian folks said the SAME THING at one time or another and a whole BURCH of folks now have selective amnesia... We said it, we thought it, we expressed it to our little groups and now we want to "seek GOD" cause what Ray Nagin said was just out of line... oh and he don't have a relationship with the Lord!!! How many of us have spoken out of turn and spoke our desires and not GOD's??? He didn't say anything more that what was preached out of pulpits when this thing happened... |
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Post by ybrown on Jan 24, 2006 9:36:53 GMT -5
But how much stuff do we say out of our flesh and it ain't from GOD? I'm not faulting Nagin cause carnal man doesn't understand the things of GOD. But a WHOLE BURNCH of Christian folks said the SAME THING at one time or another and a whole BURCH of folks now have selective amnesia... We said it, we thought it, we expressed it to our little groups and now we want to "seek GOD" cause what Ray Nagin said was just out of line... oh and he don't have a relationship with the Lord!!! I'm cracking up. ;D I just scrolled to the bottom of the forums and MissKay, you got people going back to the Katrina forum now, trying to see who said what.... I said what I said. I just think Nagin is nuts, with political aspirations, regurgitating things he's heard. Yeah, he'll be the big nut in the center of chocolate city. Sounds like a Nestle Crunch. |
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Post by MsKayLander on Jan 24, 2006 9:46:01 GMT -5
Yeaup!, things he heard from Christian folks or those proporting to know Christ and His voice.... Nagin said his comments about God were inappropriate and stemmed from a private conversation he had with a minister earlier. |
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Post by MsKayLander on Jan 24, 2006 9:58:58 GMT -5
his is not the first time God's anger has been blamed for a disaster. TV preachers Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell got in trouble after 9/11 when they said the church-state separation had so angered God that he failed to protect people on the day those planes smashed into the twin towers.
And going further back in history, President Abraham Lincoln created quite a stir in his second inaugural address on March 4, 1865, when he blamed the high number of deaths in the Civil War on the fact that slavery had angered God.
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All race was affected, but mostly white.... Nobody said that God is mad at White American 
