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Post by zelica on Mar 20, 2008 1:41:21 GMT -5
awwwwwwwww im tellin poppa Kanyon on you LOL just kidding Why.... at dollar & dollar.... nothing bad.... I going to go to sleep.... I went out last night to a easter play at my sister church.... When I got back, I needed to complete some work and work my apostle's myspace... She just got back to the States.... LOL ;D Good night my sistah!!! |
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Post by livinganewlife on Mar 20, 2008 9:15:04 GMT -5
Ok guys, i am changing the subject a little bit......
BTW: good to see you vindicated!
I know you all read JB's medical report ;D
I found it interesting that her medical report indicated that she was an occasional drinker (this response is not about whether drinking is right or wrong).....but as i was talking to my mom (who is a Doctor of Psychology) last night and mentioned to her about JB's medical records being on the Internet and how (occasional drinker) was indicated on her report......
well my mom stated that in almost 85% of all domestic violent cases alcohol is involved........
The question was asked why did she follow him out of the restaurant....i don't know but if you are drinking your rational thinking abilities can be off.....
This is just my opinion and I thought that was interesting especially in light of JB not wanting to go to trail...
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 9:47:11 GMT -5
Ok guys, i am changing the subject a little bit...... BTW: good to see you vindicated! I know you all read JB's medical report ;D I found it interesting that her medical report indicated that she was an occasional drinker (this response is not about whether drinking is right or wrong).....but as i was talking to my mom (who is a Doctor of Psychology) last night and mentioned to her about JB's medical records being on the Internet and how (occasional drinker) was indicated on her report...... well my mom stated that in almost 85% of all domestic violent cases alcohol is involved........ The question was asked why did she follow him out of the restaurant.... i don't know but if you are drinking your rational thinking abilities can be off.....Read the Essence Magazine.... she explained why she follow him... Since he never ball a fist and hit her, she didn't expect him to turn around choke her.... Bishop was under a lot of pressure, half of the members left, he was embarrassed when she didn't show up at his birthday party and his conference, and a final eviction notice was paste in the church door, which is also his home (he was about to become homeless). He needed her tithes money (emergency finance), she needed the facility for her mentor class. They used each other the night before.... He was going to work things out with her to use the building, till he find out that she gave her tithe to a ministry in Dallas, TX (T.D. Jakes)  . According to JB, (she has her text messages) he demanded her to meet him... he came there angry..... She thought there was hope for there marriage.... He made it look like there was hope.... He said in two new conference, he is ready to mend their marriage, before and after she didn't show up to the disposition. He didn't rejected her on March 10, the day before the trail... they felt into each other arm for almost an hour, like a love story... He misled her.... She love this man, his grandfather asked her to intervene... The medical report didn't show alcohol in her blood.... she told them she drink occasionally.... There is nothing that say she was drinking that night..... |
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Post by keita on Mar 20, 2008 10:00:29 GMT -5
Now see for me, and once again, this is SO not about JB or TW anymore, if it ever really was. For me, at best, they were only the vessels through whose lives GOD chose to speak. So stuff like whether or not she/they drink, how much or how often, their drink of choice, whether or not they were drinking that night, etc. etc. etc., just misses the point for me. I also think that's exactly why there is so much and so many details that we don't and probably will never know. We really don't need that to hear and learn what is intended for US in all of this. For example, drinking being raised as an issue, like the MANY issues that have been and are being raised/exposed in and by this matter can lead, to some fruitful discussions, much like the one sis lanl had with her DR. MOM. Because knowing that is a very important awareness. And so is acknowledging that Now learning/knowing those things in this particular context can lead us to further attempts to examine/judge/condemn/defend JB and TW's life and lifestyle OR it can lead us, especially any believer who chooses to drink, to examine both the scriptures and ourselves regarding that subject. And if and when we do the latter, I think, at the very least, we will not only increase our knowledge of what GOD actually says on the subject, but also deepen our understanding of WHY HE does, and perhaps make some changes for ourselves.  |
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Post by vindicated on Mar 20, 2008 10:14:29 GMT -5
I didn't READ all those posts but I did look at them, and what I saw was some rather heated discussion and anger so there was really no reason, to me, for me to sit and read all that. The statement you posted is what I was talking about. As I looked over the other thread I didn't see it and wondered if anybody had read it and why it wasn't posted, because some of the anger I saw seemed to be based on the hearing alone and not his statement afterwards.
The main thing I see is that most people's minds are made up already and so no matter what comes out on a subject people still only see what they believe.
Why would someone pray that someone's book not sell? That's like praying that their ministry fail. Why not pray and believe that no matter what happens God will be able to turn it all for HIS GLORY. One thing about putting something in writing, especially in a book is that you can't come back and deny it. So let him write his books and sell them all. If there is anything in them that is not true, guess what? He wrote it. The fact that he's writing and selling tells me that he's willing to face whatever will come as a result, good or bad.
I don't like praying against anybody because that comes across like a spirit of witchcraft. Let God be God. Glorify Him and let Him decide how something or someone should be dealt with.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 20, 2008 10:39:32 GMT -5
He's good I talked to him this morning..my mother said that it happened early during the day. Too much craziness !!
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 10:54:18 GMT -5
I didn't READ all those posts but I did look at them, and what I saw was some rather heated discussion and anger so there was really no reason, to me, for me to sit and read all that. The statement you posted is what I was talking about. As I looked over the other thread I didn't see it and wondered if anybody had read it and why it wasn't posted, because some of the anger I saw seemed to be based on the hearing alone and not his statement afterwards. It was before... during .... and after In this thread, we gather all the information, evidents and heard what came out of their own mouth and came to a conclusion... and most have changed their view when the piece came together. The book was written and designed to hurt a child of God and to slander and destroy her character, her ministry.... her as a person .... It is not to bless, but to kill.... I am not praying against him ministries, or him.... but the evil spirit that is behind it... If he can lie with a straight face, even in tear for six months and convi nce many to believe him, even with facts and evident... I am pretty sure there are many lies in the book... The question isn't what the result the he will face, what will the person who being victimized will face..... it is emotionally and spiritually abuse... is it wrong to pray against abuse, slander and murder. I don't pray against the person .... we as Christian must come against the spirit of darkness that is out to destroy the Body of Christ.... If we see evil, we must war against it... not the person, but the spirit that is in operation. I love Bishop, and I don't wish anything evil against him.... I want the man to get help so he can deal with what really taking place in his heart.... I want complete healing and restoration to manifested in him.... He is hurting... I believe his pain is not Bynum.... but pass unresolved issues, that never been dealt with, way before Bynum & his ex-wife... too many ppl marry thinking that it will full in the void in their lives.... I want the man Whole in Christ... that is my prayer! |
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 20, 2008 11:02:22 GMT -5
I know this maybe speculation..so please forgive me !! Yet, is it possible that he told her that they were not getting back together because of something that has not disclosed ?? (And at this point it does not need to be disclosed).
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 11:48:24 GMT -5
I know this maybe speculation..so please forgive me !! Yet, is it possible that he told her that they were not getting back together because of something that has not disclosed ?? (And at this point it does not need to be disclosed). Stillfocused, Bishop.. has been trying to expose everything about Bynum to the public.... that is what this book is about "Double Exposure", He is trying his best to destroy her character. If your speculated is the case, why would he show the media the text message, which I consider very personal between a husband and wife.... She expressed her love for him and asking to work things out, and than openly rejected in the media. This should have been done in private. She didn't want it to go to trail and she didn't want to get a divorce. |
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Post by zelica on Mar 20, 2008 11:56:34 GMT -5
He's good I talked to him this morning..my mother said that it happened early during the day. Too much craziness !! Wewwwwwww I know Im just glad everybody is OK!!! |
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Post by vindicated on Mar 20, 2008 12:04:54 GMT -5
AT you are a prime example of what I'm talking about. I've been gone a while and I guess I'll have to leave again. What I have consistently seen through these threads that you have defended JB as if you live in the house with her. DO you work for her? It's really not that serious because unless you were in the parking lot and unless you lived with this couple during the marriage you really can't defend either of them as strongly as you defend her. It's like anybody who says anything remotely not in favor of your "celebrity" you start cuttin. What do you think JB was doing when she was running to all those radio stations and magazines and television shows, trying to make him look good? She was getting her story out there and then all of a sudden supposedly the Lord told her to stop talking. Finally!!!! the Lord got a word in edgewise because she was on a roll.
I don't support or condone anybody hitting anybody. But I do know that women abuse men. And I do know that verbal abuse is as prevelant as physical and women do it almost as much as men. And I also know that a man who has never hit a woman can be pushed to that point if the woman has a mouth that won't quit. Anybody can be pushed to a point that they've never been to if enough pressure is applied.
That's why I'm keeping my eyes open about things and my ears because there are two sides to EVERY story and very seldom does a marriage break up with only one party being soley responsible. I saw her interview in essence and saw a mistake, that was made by BOTH of them from the very beginning.
You are way too star struck.
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Post by keita on Mar 20, 2008 12:05:17 GMT -5
Stillfocused, Bishop.. has been trying to expose everything about Bynum to the public.... Sis AT, we have no way of knowing what TW is actually "trying" to do. Without having read the book we have no way of knowing what it is about. Again, we have no way of knowing what TW is "trying" to do. I agree with you that the text messages between them were personal. But only TW could tell anyone why he chose to share them. We have no other way of knowing that. Again, I agree that that ideally should have remained a private matter between them. But we also do not have any way of knowing the motives of either of them. Based on what she said, I would agree with that. But that doesn't mean we know that it's true or her motives for saying it. Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, praying for both parties and grasping what GOD is or may be saying to US in and through all of this. Please kindly limit your posts to that focus. Onward and Upward! |
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 12:10:07 GMT -5
Stillfocused, Bishop.. has been trying to expose everything about Bynum to the public.... Sis AT, we have no way of knowing what TW is actually "trying" to do. Without having read the book we have no way of knowing what it is about. Again, we have no way of knowing what TW is "trying" to do. I agree with you that the text messages between them were personal. But only TW could tell anyone why he chose to share them. We have no other way of knowing that. Again, I agree that that ideally should have remained a private matter between them. But we also do not have any way of knowing the motives of either of them. Based on what she said, I would agree with that. But that doesn't mean we know that it's true or her motives for saying it. Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, praying for both parties and grasping what GOD is or may be saying to us in that. Ok Keita..... This my speculation of how I see.... and it make sense .... This is what I believe.... based on what have been revealed, I can't come to no other conclusion except I see him doing.... |
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Post by keita on Mar 20, 2008 12:20:17 GMT -5
Ok Keita..... This my speculation of how I see.... and it make sense .... This is what I believe.... based on what have been revealed, I can't come to no other conclusion except I see him doing.... Oh, sis, believe me, I think a lot of what you are saying and have said often makes a lot of "sense". Problem is, that alone doesn't make it fact, truth, or even, so. And that goes for any of us. So again, Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, stay prayerful for both parties and grasp what GOD is or may be saying to us in all of this. And let's ALL try to limit our future posts on this subject to that focus. |
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 12:34:53 GMT -5
AT you are a prime example of what I'm talking about. I've been gone a while and I guess I'll have to leave again. What I have consistently seen through these threads that you have defended JB as if you live in the house with her. DO you work for her? It's really not that serious because unless you were in the parking lot and unless you lived with this couple during the marriage you really can't defend either of them as strongly as you defend her. It's like anybody who says anything remotely not in favor of your "celebrity" you start cuttin. You said you didn't read all the posts... I have a right to my OPINION just like U.... I didn't attack U... or came against U, I just explained MY View of the discussion, which I have a right to do..... Just because I refuse to drag Bynum throw the Mug when she have been victimized, by so many ppl who judged before any information got out... don't make me wrong.... I am not a follower and never run with the crowd .... I am an individual to hold to what I Believe is true. She was focused on Domestic Violent ... Not her marriage or her husband, although it came up in her interview.... She made it clear that her husband is a Man of God and Not a monster.... She defended him when other try to talk down toward him... She didn't make him look like some horrible person... Essence December Magazine is the only interview she actually spoke about the incident and marriage and was very careful about what she reveal.... She spoke on very public issues... She didn't make him look bad... That may or may not be the case here... we have proof of the violent act toward JB... and we can only go by what actually happen. Bynum said it was both of them that cause the marriage to fall.... Read December Essence Magazine.... she is not playing innocent, can't do wrong.... she openly confess her mistakes... even in her most recent interview.... she said the she can't focus on what Weeks did... but on herself, making sure she is right... This is what I like about her.... she is real.... She is not blaming, trying to expose him or hurt him.... That is the different between their interviews... That is why i am stand up for her... and I am learning from her. What you have against Bynum that you will make such a remark? None of us are perfect.... we all have some form of issues... I am not star struck... I believe in being fair... too many were against her, without a reason and I choose to stand up for her.... me and two other posters. |
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. According to JB, (she has her text messages) he demanded her to meet him... he came there angry..... 
