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Post by keita on Mar 20, 2008 12:53:22 GMT -5
Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, stay prayerful for both parties and grasp what GOD is or may be saying to us in all of this.
And let's ALL try to limit our future posts on this subject to that focus. That includes not responding to any posts (or parts of them) which, and any posters who, are yet or still unable to maintain that focus. And having made that request for the third time, I am now getting out of my "member" chair and pinning on my "moderator" badge.
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Post by vindicated on Mar 20, 2008 12:58:30 GMT -5
For those who said HI to me. HELLOEERRRR.
ABOUT the text message, I'm not sure what was so cruel or wrong about it if she was expressing her love for him in the message. Since this first happened she has always publically expressed her love for him. So I don't see how him showing a text message to the media would tarnish her in any way. She even said when asked about finding love again, "I can't think about finding love again. I'm still IN LOVE".
I don't know where someone gets the idea that she didn't want a divorce either. She was also quoted as saying that she loves him so much that she could marry him twice but this one is over.
The last quote I saw from her was that, "Nobody tells you what to do with all the love you have for a person". I can think of quite of few things and none of them involve picking up bricks, hitting them over the head with books, or throwing their laptop out of the car window. ISSUES.
It reminds me of my ex husband following me through my mother's house becoming more angry with me because I couldn't see that he had changed. My mother was sickly (in heaven now) and she had started to cry and ask him to leave her home because he was upsetting her. Instead of leaving he fed off of the drama and continued to follow me through the house in spite of repeatedly being asked by the both of us to leave. Then when I went into the back room and began to iron something he rammed his fist into the ironing board and yelled, "Why can't you see I changed! I'm trying to show you I changed!" But he loved me though. (eyeroll) This same man (my ex and an elder)went from house to house, one relative to the next to the next and talked about me like a DOG to my family members and church members, anyone who would listen, accusing me of being a lesbian, telling people he wasn't sure he was the father of our baby, accusing me of sleeping with other men and being under witchcraft. He told all my intimate secrets to anybody who would listen. But I guess because in between lies he would cry and say, "But I still want my familiy. I love my wife", people couldn't see past that. Thank God I did! And you know why? BECAUSE I LIVED WITH THE MAN.
I have learned from experience that you can love a person with all you know how. But if you don't know how, it does no good. You can love someone but if you love comes from A BROKEN PLACE in your heart that's in need of healing, you can make that person despise you. This is part of what has taught me to just listen and watch. Open your ears and your eyes. There's way more to it than meets the eye and a lot of what we see has a lot to do with people coming into marriage with UNRESOVLED ISSUES AND OLD HURTS THAT NEVER GOT HEALED.
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Post by zelica on Mar 20, 2008 13:01:32 GMT -5
Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, stay prayerful for both parties and grasp what GOD is or may be saying to us in all of this.
And let's ALL try to limit our future posts on this subject to that focus. That includes not responding to any posts (or parts of them) which, and any posters who, are yet or still unable to maintain that focus. And having made that request for the third time, I am now getting out of my "member" chair and pinning on my "moderator" badge. LOL MOMMA IS BACK ;D
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 13:04:47 GMT -5
Ok Keita..... This my speculation of how I see.... and it make sense .... This is what I believe.... based on what have been revealed, I can't come to no other conclusion except I see him doing.... Oh, sis, believe me, I think a lot of what you are saying and have said often makes a lot of "sense". Problem is, that alone doesn't make it fact, truth, or even, so. And that goes for any of us. So again, Let's try to stay focused on what we actually do know, stay prayerful for both parties and grasp what GOD is or may be saying to us in all of this. And let's ALL try to limit our future posts on this subject to that focus. What you are saying is right..... No one know the root.... But we go by what we see, read and hear and draw to our personal conclusion, which is called speculation.... and speculation isn't bad... What is bad in gossips and slanders...
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Post by vindicated on Mar 20, 2008 13:20:25 GMT -5
"That may or may not be the case here... we have proof of the violent act toward JB... and we can only go by what actually happen. "
What actually happened. Right. And nobody on this thread knows what actually happened. Not even you. My looming question has always been, "Weren't there camera's in that parking lot and hotel? You mean we have us an airport with no security cameras? That's where the truth lies. But since we're not going to trial none of us will know what ACTUALLY HAPPENED NOW WILL WE? Not even you.
"What you have against Bynum that you will make such a remark? "
Saying you are starstruck has NOTHING to do with having something against her and you know that.
I have NOTHING against her. I've heard her teaching and it has blessed me tremendously. But I also saw a mean streak. I also sat in the service and heard her say things about people that no woman of God should say. I have also heard her talk about her past and how she hasn't been healed from much of what happened to her, and how that affected her relationship (negatively) with her husband. Any time you go into a marriage with those kinds of unresovled issues you're setting yourself up to fail.
But like I said in a previous post and I guess you didn't see it. The first mistake I saw was made by both of them.
Oh and let me give you another quick lesson from experience. Trying to be a martyr in a situation doesn't make you right and it doesn't make you the innocent victim. People who blame themselves and spend long periods of time trying to "make sure" they're not wrong are dealing with issues. It stems from self esteem issues. But they usually cover it up with "just trying to be right", "just trying to make sure i'm righ". Pride is sometimes rooted in that too. Been there done that. If you wanna be right say, "I'M SORRY".
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 20, 2008 13:31:21 GMT -5
Vindiction.... You have a powerful testimony, because it could have been a sad ending... he taking your life and his own.... Praise God, that He got you out of it.... What you decribed about your ex-husband... is what I see Weeks doing, but on a larger scale. Sharing deep personal information mixed with lies is dangerous. I believe the Love you mention that Bynum expressed are real... As a minister of the Gospel, she did not want to face another failed marriage. Even with all that her husband is doing to hurt her.... she was willing to work thing out. I thought it was crazy.... Weeks aid something very personal about the last time they spend the night together.. Even at his conference, he spoke about what she did in the marriage bedroom So you can relates to Bynum and how she feel.... He not just going to the local church and her family, but revealing it to the world.... I praise God that you have gotten out alive! Many in your case and Bynum didn't
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Post by vindicated on Mar 20, 2008 13:40:56 GMT -5
I'm vindicated. And I think you missed my whole point. The things I said were about my ex, yes, but I was referring to things I've seen JB do and say.
What I can relate to is the person doing the most damage making themselves look like more of a victim than they really are at the expense of the person they are married to, and in the next breath talking about how much they love the person.
Their love may be real but it is also sick and distorted due to all the unresolved issues, insecurities and lack of self worth and self esteem. Tell me you love me all you want but if you're saying it with a brick in your hand, or your fist in the ironing board or headboard of our bed, or while popping me upside the head with something, I don't want to hear nothing about no love..
Hey did y'all see the other thread where GDD is leaving because of all the mess? I just got back and one of my favorites is leaving.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Mar 20, 2008 14:51:20 GMT -5
Hey did y'all see the other thread where GDD is leaving because of all the mess? I just got back and one of my favorites is leaving. I break my silence. On the real....this BOTHERS me. <-------- Back to my corner.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 20, 2008 15:24:31 GMT -5
I honestly believe that the Lord is having us all in one or another step and look at ourselves and I really mean look at ourselves. This topic has been very hard on many people for various from the beginning. During the course of all this a friend's 21 yr old has heart failure..yet, through the prayers of those on this BB and many others he is alive today..and doing quite well. I have personally learned that life is too short for this kind of madness and that no matter that there are some things that must change..whether from health to fiances God's hand was on my buttons. Do I still want to get married ? ..yes, yet I know that when that comes that there will some that will have to die. All I know is that God is shaking the very foundations that we have built our lives..and that whether or not it was built on rock or sand..the testing is coming to see if it will stay or burn.
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Post by heaven on Mar 22, 2008 15:39:03 GMT -5
I'm upset right now at the fact that they are letting him preach tomorrow. They didn't give him any type of consequences for what he did. If it was the other way around I would feel the same way. I don't understand how people can still sit up under a leadership they know is wrong and out of order. He admitted to a crime and they are acting as if he never did anything wrong. I don't understand that.
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Post by keita on Mar 22, 2008 16:34:39 GMT -5
Do you plan to attend the service?
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Post by anointedteacher on Mar 22, 2008 17:39:26 GMT -5
Do you plan to attend the service? ;D ;D ;D Tell me what happen, if U go.... You know, like how God delivered him out of the pit... and set his feet on rock to stand.... He can't lay hands because he might push someone down and get another felony... He need to warm every minister to be careful and aviod pushing cause in Georgia it is against the law... Isn't that what happen when he was ministering to his wife and start shouting all over her .... Ok I'll leave this topic alone... before other start responding.... Heaven.... We can't control what Weeks do, no one can force him to sit down... It is up to the members... They can sit under him or leave or even boycott.... He may not be accountable to anybody... It is not even worth getting up set ... It is best to release him... forgive him... and let him go....
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Post by keita on Mar 22, 2008 19:26:40 GMT -5
ROFLOL @sis at... because sista's still got jokes and they're just funny to me..., while appreciating seeing her coming to know that, when and why she needs to quit. Do you plan to attend the service? heaven, I want to be clear that I asked that question for 3 specific reasons, and for me, neither TW, nor soliciting a report on the Easter service goings on at Global Destiny was among them. (Now of course if you're there, and the brother has a word from the Lord, please don't hesitate to come on back here and share it. But I asked what I did because I wanted to say to you: 1. If God is telling you to remain in/continue attending GD, then I pray your strength and peace, and encourage you in your obedience to HIM. I hear your distress and I know all too well how hard that walk can be, especially with a deeply troubled mind and heart regarding a place God is keeping you in. 2. If God is not telling you to remain in/continue attending GD, then I would encourage you to boldly exercise your liberty in Christ and come out from among what you are apparently so strongly convinced and convicted is not of GOD and is causing such vexation to your spirit. 3. DO NOT, under any circumstances, remain in/continue attending that house or any other, under its (even if wrong and for however long) GOD-ordained authority and rebel in any way against that established authority, even with your mouth. As HE makes VERY plain throughout the scriptures...God does not play that. And as one who has been there, done that, and lived to tell about it, I can tell you first-hand that HIS chastisement can be quite severe.
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Post by stillfocused on Mar 22, 2008 19:29:28 GMT -5
I am not being funny or mean..have you considered attending church somewhere else on tomorrow ??
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Post by heaven on Mar 23, 2008 1:44:47 GMT -5
No I do not. As long as he is still preaching as if nothing ever happened, I can't support that ministry. I know I'll read about it because it will be in every news report on line. They are already talking about the fact that he will be back preaching.
I have been able to let it go and forgive. But I am just concerned as to why they are still allowing him to minister even though he committed a crime and he is still trying to destroy her. (Which is getting old and he needs to stop because none of it has affected her ministry.) I wonder if they are scared of not having a leader. I know they have to know that this is not right. And yet, nobody's doing anything about it.
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