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Post by Beck on May 25, 2006 12:07:57 GMT -5
Recently I had someone tell me that a church with more than one pastor is a monster, because they have more than one head..lol. But the more I study and research the more I find that In biblical times they never had just one pastor, it was "Atleast" two pastor's to a group. How come we have gotten away from this type of format and do you think it really matters?
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Post by hezsweetiknow on May 25, 2006 14:19:53 GMT -5
Now this ought to be interesting...  Great question Elder Beck.
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Post by auneeqsol on May 26, 2006 8:07:34 GMT -5
I am so glad that you started this!!!!.....I was going to start it but I was trying to see how I was going word it. But this is going to be good, because I had been looking at how "we" have changed how the church structure is set up, and that has put us into a "mode" that was never intended. See how ppl put leaders and all on a pedestal and begin to give them power that God didnt even give them, and then the churches are falling by the wayside, and all these arrests concerning church embezzlement from leaders and their "clan", and just the way church leadership and church "operations" have gotten outrageous. But, I will be following this closely to see what it unfolds.... |
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Post by G3 on May 26, 2006 8:55:03 GMT -5
From the "heart of a shepherd to the fist of a king". From serving to being served.
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Post by Beck on May 26, 2006 14:43:39 GMT -5
I am so glad that you started this!!!!.....I was going to start it but I was trying to see how I was going word it. But this is going to be good, because I had been looking at how "we" have changed how the church structure is set up, and that has put us into a "mode" that was never intended. See how ppl put leaders and all on a pedestal and begin to give them power that God didnt even give them, and then the churches are falling by the wayside, and all these arrests concerning church embezzlement from leaders and their "clan", and just the way church leadership and church "operations" have gotten outrageous. But, I will be following this closely to see what it unfolds.... Im interested in seeing where it goes as well. I remember a few months back that Brother Krazee mentioned something about when he starts his ministry, how the order would be. that sparked my interest in the subject and caused me to understand things a little better. |
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Post by krazeeboi on May 26, 2006 22:19:22 GMT -5
Recently I had someone tell me that a church with more than one pastor is a monster, because they have more than one head..lol. We wouldn't have a lot of this confusion if we understood that the church indeed does only have one Head, and HIS NAME IS JESUS. Let's nip that in the bud FIRST. |
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Post by Beck on May 30, 2006 12:48:39 GMT -5
Recently I had someone tell me that a church with more than one pastor is a monster, because they have more than one head..lol. We wouldn't have a lot of this confusion if we understood that the church indeed does only have one Head, and HIS NAME IS JESUS. Let's nip that in the bud FIRST. Its a darn shame this simple knowledge isnt in a lot of churches today. but most of this poison comes from the pulpit. |
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Post by G3 on May 30, 2006 13:47:11 GMT -5
I believe before we can even discuss the "what is the proper set up of the local church" we first and foremost must be clear of what is the "purpose of the gathering together" on our selective days of fellowship. Why do we come together?
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Post by keita on May 30, 2006 15:18:20 GMT -5
We wouldn't have a lot of this confusion if we understood that the church indeed does only have one Head, and HIS NAME IS JESUS. Let's nip that in the bud FIRST. I believe that Christ is indeed the Head of His Body, but not of "the Church". I do not believe that any amount of reformation or reorganization can possibly or will ever turn the latter into the former. I believe that the two are of entirely different and violently opposing spirits. |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on May 30, 2006 15:39:53 GMT -5
We wouldn't have a lot of this confusion if we understood that the church indeed does only have one Head, and HIS NAME IS JESUS. Let's nip that in the bud FIRST. I believe that Christ is indeed the Head of His Body, but not of "the Church". I do not believe that any amount of reformation or reorganization can possibly or will ever turn the latter into the former. I believe that the two are of entirely different and violently opposing spirits. Please discuss! |
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on May 30, 2006 15:40:19 GMT -5
I believe before we can even discuss the "what is the proper set up of the local church" we first and foremost must be clear of what is the "purpose of the gathering together" on our selective days of fellowship. Why do we come together? good question! |
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Post by Beck on May 31, 2006 8:09:38 GMT -5
We wouldn't have a lot of this confusion if we understood that the church indeed does only have one Head, and HIS NAME IS JESUS. Let's nip that in the bud FIRST. I believe that Christ is indeed the Head of His Body, but not of "the Church". I do not believe that any amount of reformation or reorganization can possibly or will ever turn the latter into the former. I believe that the two are of entirely different and violently opposing spirits. I "Think" I know what your saying... and if you are saying what I think your saying...then I agree...lol |
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Post by auneeqsol on May 31, 2006 8:35:28 GMT -5
Please expound Keita, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying..it sounds "deep" though....LOL
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Post by G3 on May 31, 2006 9:04:19 GMT -5
Keita, Ephesians 1:22-23
Could you explain these verses?
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Post by G3 on May 31, 2006 9:27:30 GMT -5
There is a teaching that has risen concerning the "Church Age" which we are still in that dispensation. As long as that dispensation is ordained by God, which is also called the Dispensation or "The God Given Order" of Grace, Christ is still the "Head of that God Given Order" the "Church or Body" which is the FULLNESS OR COMPLETION of Him who is the fulness of all things.
Under this dispensation, the church as a whole, like as the religious sect of old such as the Pharisees, Saducees and Essence, it has moved away from the Word of God and the "Order of Nature and has form it's "own doctrine and traditions" using the Word of God in the name Yeshua. This has placed the name "Ichabod" over the House of God and has moved His Glory to a "Remnant" of True Followers. Now this Remnant of worshippers of God has now become the body, dwelling place, the church of the Living God. The Father has and will always reserve a people for His "Name Sake" in order to "establish His covenant" with the Earth and the people that dwell in it.
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