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Post by stillfocused on Oct 11, 2006 23:42:50 GMT -5
I will make this short..my Pastor cancelled all services except one during the week. And I found a good Bible Study to attend and told someone else about it. And since there are no services other than once a week; I attended their 2nd service, too. Long story short the other person decided to leave the church; to attend other church and told someone; in turn told someone else, who in turn told the Pastor because they felt like the Pastor had the right to know; in turn who made it known over the pulpit; with name calling and cutting words. What should I have done ? And was I wrong for longing for more than once a week ? As it stands I will not be returning; because of a comment that was made during the last service...in which the Pastor was basically if it's better there..leave !! I am actually still feeling the pain from the words that were spoken...because the Pastor put it out there for everybody to hear....and then tried to make it right with other comments.
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Post by krazeeboi on Oct 12, 2006 3:44:15 GMT -5
Have you talked with him in private?
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 12, 2006 8:36:46 GMT -5
Am supposed to be a leader..but, I don't feel that way; because of some other things that have happened..I wanted to talk to the Pastor last week about it; but, because there always has a bunch of people around the Pastor I didn't and I am the point where I don't want to talk to the Pastor..because the Pastor has a tendency to hear what I say; but, the Pastor not really listen to what I say. In prayer I received something for the church; as I am considered to a Warrior; and the Pastor turned it into a sermon. Krazee..I am still upset and this was almost a week
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 12, 2006 10:08:34 GMT -5
Stillfocused,
I see that you have some bitter feelings towards the pastor that you have to allow the Holy Spirit to work out of you. You have already made up in your mind how this meeting would go and you haven't even set up a meeting with him yet. How are you determining that he isn't listening to what you are saying?
You say:
Did it matter how the "word" was delivered as long as the people heard what the Lord wanted them to hear? Or did it have to come from you? I am sincere with the questions I ask because it will help get to the root of the issue.
You also said:
What has made you so upset that you are not able to let it go even after a week? More importantly, why did it make you upset?
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Post by anointedteacher on Oct 12, 2006 11:46:41 GMT -5
stillfocused, I understand how you feel... I also understand how your pastor feel. He/She may be disappointed in loosing a member and dealt with it openly to discourage other from leaving. I know it was humiliating and really caused pain to the flesh (pride). I know it hurt, I've been there, and it didn't happen once, but on going. Most of the time, I didn't even know what I did to cause it   . When I pray... God begin to deal with me and not the pastor  ... It was PRIDE, that He was purging out of me. This may not be in your case... How about asking God, not out of hurt and resentment, but from a sincere heart... What is it that you are trying to show me... How, You want me to handle this situation. You don't want to be led by your hurt, pain and feeling, but to stay focused on the leading of the Holy Spirit. We can not always run from the trails and you don't want to go to another church with a beg full with hurt, resentment and unforgiveness.... If God is leading you to another church.... get things right with your pastor and leave with a blessing. I know you didn't meant any harm, but wanted more than one service a week. You should make an appointment with your pastor, and sit down and talk with him/her. even if you are led by the Holy Spirit to leave. You can give your pastor a note asking to speak with him/her privately. Leave no room for the enemy to make this situation bigger than it really is  . You are a warrior, and warriors know how to fight >:(and not run from trails  . God Bless  AT |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 12, 2006 14:43:49 GMT -5
No, I am not bitter because I would have left a long time, ago. This happens repeatedly when some leaves..it's blasted across the platform with negative comments. What I gave..it was made their own..something which happens alot, as well...last week the "From a Mess to a Miracle" came out..some things are spoken from TBN...
I know that I have walk in forgiveness..and if I keep hearing comments that are toxic..I will not walk in healing I am believing for...
Someone was going to leave it was stated that I told the person to leave and was called some pretty ugly things..unwise being one..being anointed with no wisdom was another..
it wasn't pain to the flesh..it hurt because someone is walking around in seriously tied up and no walking in peace. As some of you know I almost lost my son, to the spirit of suicide and I vowed then that if I knew someone was hurting like that I would not watch and do nothing..
I have been praying and on Sunday..I was instructed to read I Cor 3, Matt 23:3
You have to also understand there are other factors, and race is one them..the church is growing; yet, AA are not a part of that growth, and if I were to be petty..I could let the Pastor that most of the people there was brought in by other leaders from other churches..
The Pastor never asked questions...and I had no intentions to leave the church until I was told to by the Holy Spirit..I just needed more than 2 hrs a week; and this person was seeking more, had not been in church, and wanted to set free. I have been battling some pretty tough feelings this week; and I am just tired of what I see and having it brushed under the carpet let God is pleased. I know that other things are waking up and that I accept..I have to obedient..
I have seen and heard some pretty nasty things..I will post later..
I have not heard from the other person since Sunday..as phone have not been returned..and even though they were in church on Sunday..they were not last night..as we meet on another day..
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 12, 2006 15:31:50 GMT -5
Again, I will ask you to seek the Lord and allow the Holy Spirit to reveal the matter to you. You mentioned to us one scenario that you were seeking advice on and from there you have listed many other things that you have obviously held on to - all of which point the finger to something or someone else.
You are walking in offense, my sister. When one has become offended and have not sought to get some kind of clarity on the matter, everything from that point is tainted. They can no longer see clearly. It is best to set up a meeting with the Pastor if all of this continues to bother you. Also know that just because one is bitter, doesn't mean that they will leave a church.
Love does not keep an account of the wrong done to it. Walk in love my sister, walk in forgiveness and walk in peace.
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 12, 2006 16:13:06 GMT -5
The first scenerio is what happened..I had not planted on leaving the church just yet, because I want to be planted in the right place, in the right season, the right stated, etc. Another person told a friend that she was leaving; who in told the spouse, who in turn told the Pastor; my name was thrown in for good measure..I wasn't attending another bible study because I was not dissatisfied..the Pastor stopped our's because others did not want to show up. I accept my role in this, yet, I cannot accept some of things that are going on; such as being told who not to associate with; when people leave it comes across as if they are not welcome to fellowship or very associate with them even though are closest of friend..
ASWSOY....I am sending you a pm
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Post by nina on Oct 12, 2006 17:08:23 GMT -5
"I know that I have walk in forgiveness..and if I keep hearing comments that are toxic..I will not walk in healing I am believing for..."
If I may add something:
You already know who your source is: He is... I have no doubt that you seek Him, and that your pain is real, on all levels of your being. Yes, we ought to walk in forgiveness, He tolds us to. As you turn your heart in that direction, He will give you grace beyond measure, like He only can. Including the grace to "hear comments that are toxic" and nothing in you will be "listening" to those voices, let alone respond to them. As you turn your heart towards the light and love and joy of His presence, in the midst of all that, the Holy Spirit will show you where to start. Usually, it starts in us, where He lives. Be patient a little while longer, with yourself first, with others also who may err like we do sometimes. You said you are a leader, and a warrior: you can triumph through compassion.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 12, 2006 17:19:56 GMT -5
ASWSOY....I am sending you a pm I have replied to your PM |
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 12, 2006 17:40:56 GMT -5
Am supposed to be a leader..but, I don't feel that way; because of some other things that have happened..I wanted to talk to the Pastor last week about it; but, because there always has a bunch of people around the Pastor I didn't and I am the point where I don't want to talk to the Pastor..because the Pastor has a tendency to hear what I say; but, the Pastor not really listen to what I say. In prayer I received something for the church; as I am considered to a Warrior; and the Pastor turned it into a sermon. Krazee..I am still upset and this was almost a week Can i suggest that you make an appointment to see the Pastor. Since a whole bunch of people were around I am assuming that this was after some type of service. This is a conversation where you will need the attention of the pastor focused solely on this situation. it will give both of you time to pray, discuss, and bring the matter to a resolve. |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 12, 2006 22:08:16 GMT -5
Jasmine..thanks..I have to call him set the appointment. There is only one service; I had made the decision to let before all of this..not because of dissatisfication..but, because of purpose..and I am supposed to be doing at this time..
What I meant by toxic...is this.. there is alot of comments coming from the platform that are of the ungodly nature..whether it's a joke, a comment, a comment of sexual content, or angry comments..these are no good for me..because I am believing and standing for total healing from 2 blood dieases...and these types of comments are things I don't want in my ears or spirit man at this time.
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Post by stillfocused on Nov 15, 2006 20:29:35 GMT -5
For those who are wondering.. I still have not talked with my Pastor he has been out of town. since October. There are messages..with someone saying a public apology is owed by some people. I know that he talked to those around him concerning this; yet, sadly he has not talked to me. If you have an inkling of what has happened you know what the madness is about. I am leaving..I just want to it correctly.
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Post by livinganewlife on Nov 16, 2006 9:17:49 GMT -5
Is there an assistant Pastor or someone who is in charge in the Pastor's absence that you can speak with.
IMO it is totally unacceptable for a Pastor to leave a church for long periods of time without having established any protocol in regards to leadership...... That situation just seems raggedy and I don't know the details of what you are talking about either.........
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Post by stillfocused on Nov 16, 2006 11:22:56 GMT -5
LANL..read the 1st post..There are other Pastors; his wife is co Pastor. As they both have been traveling; the one night she was there I did not talk to her. He speaks alot during certain periods of the year. And I have been asked to try and speak with him face to face; the resort is to sent a letter.
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. When I pray... God begin to deal with me and not the pastor 
... It was PRIDE, that He was purging out of me. This may not be in your case... How about asking God, not out of hurt and resentment, but from a sincere heart... What is it that you are trying to show me... How, You want me to handle this situation. You don't want to be led by your hurt, pain and feeling, but to stay focused on the leading of the Holy Spirit. We can not always run from the trails and you don't want to go to another church with a beg full with hurt, resentment and unforgiveness.... If God is leading you to another church.... get things right with your pastor and leave with a blessing.
. You are a warrior, and warriors know how to fight >:(and not run from trails 
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