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Post by krazeeboi on Oct 24, 2007 13:40:18 GMT -5
Not sure if you guys know this, but it has hit the news that Pastor Zachary Tims of Orlando, FL had an affair and he and his wife are in the middle of a bitter divorce.
Ain't it sad???
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 24, 2007 14:25:48 GMT -5
OMG...this is VERY SAD.
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Post by And Such Were Some Of You on Oct 24, 2007 14:35:03 GMT -5
yeah, I heard about this but didn't want to post it. I hear there may also be a baby involved in all of this.
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 24, 2007 15:10:06 GMT -5
The only thing I could find about it was HEREI always thought that if nothing else the two of them "looked" like a Pastor and Elect Lady..... |
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Post by kanyon on Oct 24, 2007 15:17:06 GMT -5
I put THIS link in the 'links' section of our forum. Check them out once in a while for updates. They go nuts sometimes but its not hard for a discerning person to sort it all out. |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 24, 2007 17:40:39 GMT -5
What is a Lady Elect ?!! Our leaders are falling all around us..what is going on ??
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 24, 2007 17:43:13 GMT -5
He is spiritual son of Randi and Paula White..God help us to know his voice..God help our leaders !!
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Post by giantsdodie on Oct 24, 2007 18:37:27 GMT -5
Leaders are human.. and judgement starts FIRST at the house of the Lord.... Is your house in order  ? Imma go check mine with the Master.. |
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Post by anointed on Oct 24, 2007 19:19:48 GMT -5
And judgement from God isn't always a bad thing. His judgement, for the believer, comes to purify, correct and set us in order no matter how humiliating, embarrassing or nasty it might seem. I rather for God to embarrass me and I be put straight than to go unchecked and be caught up in my own way. Jesus said every one that the Father gives him, he will not loose not a one of them. Leaders are human and are subject to error, falling and their own way. But God's compassion and mercy (in the midst of judgement) becomes valid everytime that man's weakness calls for them to go into operation. One thing Prophetess Bynum said at Global Destiny during their New Years service was this is the year that God will dig the Church out. I guess he's doing that but when it's all said and done, it'll be okay. How do I know? He's the Beginning and the Ending. As for Zachery Tims and his wife, I'll pray for them as well. I first got acquainted with him over 5 years ago (before he blew up so to speak). What first attracted me to Pastor Zach was his message on holiness. Him and his wife remind me of Will and Jada Pickett Smith. So cute  I'm not moved to speculation but with the compassion of Jesus to pray for them. Isn't it interesting that everytime Jesus ministered to the masses, he was moved with compassion irrespective of their sins, flaws, hangups, and weaknesses. Only Christ can make us whole. |
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Post by newmercies on Oct 24, 2007 19:24:41 GMT -5
And judgement from God isn't always a bad thing. His judgement, for the believer, comes to purify, correct and set us in order no matter how humiliating, embarrassing or nasty it might seem. I rather for God to embarrass me and I be put straight than to go unchecked and be caught up in my own way. One thing Prophetess Bynum said at Global Destiny during their New Years service was this is the year that God will dig the Church out. I guess he's doing that but when it's all said and done, it'll be okay. How do I know? He's the Beginning and the Ending. As for Zachery Tims and his wife, I'll pray for them as well. I first got acquainted with him over 5 years ago (before he blew up so to speak) Him and his wife remind me of Will and Jada Pickett Smith. So cute I do agree with you anointed, the Bible says that God chastens those he loves.......... IF He didn't Love us He wouldn't correct us. Thats also what my parents always told me when I go a whoopin. " This is going to hurt me more than its going to hurt you" I was like yeah right. but after I got older a understood what they meant. |
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Post by Nikkol on Oct 25, 2007 7:56:45 GMT -5
What is a Lady Elect ?!! Our leaders are falling all around us..what is going on ?? I don't tend to use the term "First Lady" but means the same thing. When I think of "first lady" I think there could be a second,etc.... The one difference however is "Elect Lady" is in scripture. |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 25, 2007 11:30:24 GMT -5
Nikkol...I understand..this has been a question that alot of people have. Where did the term First Lady come from ? I know that term Lady Elect is in the bible ? Yet, how many of us really know what that term is used to addressed a Pastor's wife ? Not everyone is school in the terminology we use within our denominations.
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Post by keita on Oct 25, 2007 11:56:31 GMT -5
...how many of us really know that that term is used to addressed a Pastor's wife ? Scripturally speaking, is that true?  |
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Post by stillfocused on Oct 25, 2007 12:34:39 GMT -5
Good question, Keita. That was recently a question in one of our Bible Study sessions. And we were told that you won't find it the scriptures. So, then that raises other questions..
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Post by Jasmine on Oct 25, 2007 12:45:41 GMT -5
2 John 1:1-4
1 The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
2 For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
4 I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
Is Elect Lady? A Proper name, Was the Lady named Electra? Did the term Lady mean "kyria" which has been stated in some studies.
I dont believe that it applies to pastor wives at all. I believe what happened was.....a woman went through the bible found that title, and said...I like this...and I am going to use it.
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I'm not moved to speculation but with the compassion of Jesus to pray for them. Isn't it interesting that everytime Jesus ministered to the masses, he was moved with compassion irrespective of their sins, flaws, hangups, and weaknesses. Only Christ can make us whole.