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Post by kitty on Nov 20, 2007 10:57:06 GMT -5
I'm hoping God will arrange my marriage too!
Kitty
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Post by chosen on Nov 20, 2007 17:03:00 GMT -5
Im still not understanding, So should we not marry if we are unable to have children, if not there is just no hope for me.
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Post by giantsdodie on Nov 20, 2007 17:18:44 GMT -5
Im still not understanding, So should we not marry if we are unable to have children, if not there is just no hope for me. I think you are readying far to much into it Jessica. Obviously you can get married if you dont have children or arent able to produce children. We have example in the Word of God of women who were unable to conceive but yet were married. Plus we have a miracle working GOD as well. Our asst pastor has some serious health issues and she was told that she could not have any more children... well she conceived a child.. then they told her if she has the child she will probably die in the childbirth.. she said to the doctor.. The Word of God tells me that I shall live and not die.. then they said the child would be born defective or probably retarded.. this is about the most healthy and intelligent 9 year old boy I have ever seen in my life... Fruitful and Multiply was a command given to man and I believe it applies to a lot more than simply the ability to marry and procreate. Take for example the Apostle Paul. He was not married yet he was quite fruitful and certainly did multiply by teaching and admonishing spiritual children such as Timothy. Also you could always adopt children and there are MANY children who need families. My wife's youngest brother is a foster child that the family adopted.
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Post by livinganewlife on Nov 20, 2007 17:20:25 GMT -5
Im still not understanding, So should we not marry if we are unable to have children, if not there is just no hope for me. No one has said if you can't have children than you shouldn't marry that is just plain ole erroneous thinking and teaching....... Kanyon gave scripture reference because I asked for one and have a point in asking for scripture references..... Read my next post and hopefully that will give you some clarity....
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Post by kitty on Nov 21, 2007 21:25:57 GMT -5
I'm looking at a situation within my own family in which I believed to people should have gotten married...
Instead they got burned....
My cousin's young daughter who is 20 years old just had a baby. She had a baby by a young man that she had been dating for about 4-5 years when she was in high school.
Now the odd thing about the whole mess is this... Some how i don't think they managed to have a baby because they "made a mistake" or because they got "carried away". I honestly in my heart believed that they had a kid out of wed lock because of their mis-placed desire to hold on to each other.
Too bad someone didn't encourage them to get married instead...
I'm clear in my heart that is young man got my cousin's daughter pregnant out on a desire to have family ties to her and a fmaily of his own... Why? He's only 20 years old and he has been basically on his own since 16.
He was being taken care of by his grandmother until she became ill. His parent were both drug users and never were in the picture. So basically he has been fending for himself since 17. I can see in his eyes that for him this child was a way for him to be a part of a family again.
Honestly it would have been better if my cousin's daughter got married at 19-20 and had the rest of the family to encourage the young couple to make it out of college before having any kids... But this wasn't what happened.
And sadly... now that the young couple as a child and are still "together"... Still nobody wants to encourage them to tie the knt because they are so "young"....
Kitty
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Post by keita on Nov 12, 2008 13:39:52 GMT -5
I loved this: I should say just one brief word about that infamous sentence in 1 Corinthians 7:9: “If they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.” Remember, this is addressed explicitly to men and women (v. 8). And here is the one thing I want to say about it: When a person seeks to be married, knowing that as a single he or she would “burn with passion,” it doesn’t have to mean that marriage becomes a mere channel for the sex drive. Paul would never mean that in view of Ephesians 5.
Instead when a person marries—let me simply use the man as an example—he takes his sexual desire, and he does the same thing with it that we must all do with all our physical desires if we would make them means of worship—
1) he brings it into conformity to God’s word;
2) he subordinates it to a higher pattern of love and care;
3) he transposes the music of physical pleasure into the music of spiritual worship,
4) he listens for the echoes of God’s goodness in every nerve;
5) he seeks to double his pleasure by making her joy his joy; and
6) he gives thanks to God from the bottom of his heart because he knows and he feels that he never deserved one minute of this pleasure.
John Piper "Marriage, Singleness, and the Christian Virtue of Hospitality"When I read this, I was reminded of a portion of our discussion on the" TW wife search" thread. But I'm posting here in my continued effort to separate an issue of Christian sexuality from the judgement of or debate about any particular person. It (still) seems to me that according to 1 Cor 7:8-9, an active (let alone what some would judge as "overactive") desire to have sex may not be the only reason, may not be the best reason, but is nevertheless a perfectly (scripturally) legitimate and even a really good reason for a Christian to marry. So what say y'all?
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Post by nina2 on Nov 13, 2008 13:25:16 GMT -5
Well... How about gauging our own eye if it causes us to sin, or cutting off our hand if it makes us sin? Anything there to cut off? Spiritually, of course! Ringa dinga ling ....
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